Talk:PlayStation Portable Slim & Lite series

Battery

"Due to more efficient power usage, the runtime of the PSP is still the same as the older model. ". This is not true. The PSP slim battery lasts less long than the original due to minimised capacity. This needs to be clear, as it doesnt make a lot of sense right now. --172.202.33.3 21:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

According to Sony, the PSP Slim & Lite is more effecent than the PSP Fat, and if this is the turth, it makes perfect sense that a 20% more efficient PSP with a 20% less efficient battery will last the same amount of time. I don't know if Sony ever officially said they have the same battery life, but they did indeed say that the Slim was more effecent. 75.8.52.134 (talk) 02:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Name

What is the name of this thing? It seems that "PSP Slim" is just a fan-invented term. If so, I propose moving this to PlayStation Portable (redesign). Or better yet, merging into the main PSP article. Precedent would be the merging of Game Boy Pocket and Game Boy Light into the main Game Boy line article. hbdragon88 07:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Just as with the PS2, the redesigned PSP model doesn't have separate branding, but is frequently referred to with the word "Slim" attached to differentiate. Going by model numbers, the new model is designated as the PSP-2000 series, whereas the original model was designated as the PSP-1000 series. As for the acronym issue, PSP is the primary name for the console. The expanded form, "PlayStation Portable", is secondary. It's a bit like how "Kentucky Fried Chicken" is to KFC. Dancter 08:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, the article is at PlayStation Portable (since it can refer to so much more, like Paint Shop Pro), I figured that the redesing article should be named the same for consistency purposes. hbdragon88 02:04, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Ken Kutiragi refers to the new PSP as the PSP 2000 at E3, because of the SKU on the bottom of the device. Df747jet 06:37, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Should the name "PSP 2000" be included in the article as an "official name"? Anyone interested in doing so?--84.131.72.65 20:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

"PSP 2000" isn't a name, any more than "SCPH 70000" was for the slimline PS2 design. PSP-2000 is a model number, specifically referring the Japanese version. The North American model will be PSP-2001, the model for Oceania would be PSP-2002, etc. Dancter 22:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Ken Kutiragi? Dancter 22:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I know that PSP 2000 isn't a real name, but we need a somewhat "official name" for the redesign, and it seems that no other name has been used for it within Sony.(I'm the same person as IP address 84.131.72.65, I simply have a changing IP address)--84.131.119.74 18:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The "semi-official" Three Speech blog called it the "PSP Slim & Lite"[1], probably based on the "slimmer and lighter" phrasing Sony's used in its press material, and it seems most sites and even some retailers are running with it. Sony itself has not used the name anywhere, as far as I can tell; but unless we want to go with by model numbering (which should contain the hyphen), then "Slim & Lite" is the best we have. Dancter 19:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

its slim & lite

all sources indicate it as Slim & Lite. so thats that. Jagzthebest 10:29, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

PlayStation Portable Redesign was just a title holder until the official name was revealed. By the way, which are "all sources"? Not even the article indicates this is the correct title. -- ReyBrujo 04:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, even Sony's own online store continues to refer to the new model as merely "PlayStation Portable", with the description mentioning that it's a new, smaller model, shipping "on our around 09/30/2007". They are certainly talking about this new version. play-asia calls it "Slim & Lite" and, in the absence of Sony giving us any official name for it (a lapse in public relations that seems all-too-common with Sony lately, if even only lately), i am satisfied to call it "Slim & Lite" myself. For accuracy, however, the article should not declare that to be an official name, as it has no official name other than PlayStation Portable. --69.179.48.160 05:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Its Psp

They are just calling it the Psp,because they will no longer sell the old Psp because of all its hacks and mods. The "Psp Slim" will become The psp. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmrpower (talk • contribs) 14:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The Official Name

...is PSP

Amazon.com

Amazon.co.jp

Internally at Sony it's referred to as PSP-2000. Sony of Europe's packaging is not canonical. Thank you, drive through.

Release Date

What is the release date for the normal (piano black) version? The article states September 10th for all regions and September 20th for Japan, but it also states that it will be released simultaneously for all regions. And I don't think Sony will release it later in Japan than in other regions, anyway, considering that they're Japanese.--84.131.119.74 17:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Just because a company is from a country that does not mean its products will be released in that country first.The new psp will be release in japan last.The released date is decided by fractions of that company in the regions it serves .

The release date is september 24th amazon.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.127.252.132 (talk) 01:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I bought mine (black pinao) on the 5th September 2007 in Paris/France at classic store there were plenty left. 82.216.107.35 22:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC) It seems the main is wrong pretending the release date in europe is 14 september. on the 5th September it was available in the main stores and gaming stores. Who should changes the main page ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.216.3.220 (talk) 21:26, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Amazon has now changed their USA release date for the black color to October 1st. As dissatisfying as that is, this article accurately reflects it. In addition, Sony's own online store says "Pre-sale item available on or about 09/30/2007." --69.179.48.160 05:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Why is the North American edition the top of the release date list? It was released in Europe first on the 5th which was the day before the states? Surely it should be Europe, North America and then Korea? 90.194.147.122 21:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Why are people changing the date like every hour? Slater48 01:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

New colors for NA to be released in November? Can anyone verify this? --Cyx7 00:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Picture

Anyone got hold of a free-licensed picture of it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.52.34.135 (talk • contribs).

Can anyone post a picture comparing the size of the old PSP vs the PSP Slim? 68.145.68.110 07:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The current picture needs to be replaced. It looks really unprofessional. As the only legal picture, it can remain until someone does a nice job of a picture (with the XMB in english at least -_- )--172.202.33.3 21:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I took a picture of mine which is available for use. See Media:psp_fred.png, I also took one with the XMB, but it doesn't look so good. With XMB: Media:psp_xmb_fred.png -- FredStrauss 12:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

PSP Phone

I just finished reading an article in Gadget magazine, T3. It showed patent details for a PSP Phone, the screen can turn 90 degrees. Should this be added to the article

No, it should not. As I have pointed out when reverting your "details" about the "WiFi iPod", a magazine is not a credible source when details about the product haven't been released by its designer. Details for a PSP Phone will be added if such a product were officially announced by Sony. Also, sign your posts. Stephen Shaw 09:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Well it showed Patent details from Sony, so there. Does that make it official 83.100.173.169 16:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you quote a patent number? Even at that, this patent could be for anything. Sony can use it for anything they like, not just a "PSP phone". I doubt Sony would leave the release of a major product such as a PSP phone in the hands of a magazine not published by them. Also, as I have said in previous articles, the article "PSP phone" would be the right place to write about a PSP phone. The article "Playstation Portable Slim" is not. I would be more than happy to see details about this product published on Wikipedia, provided they were published in the right place and were from different sources (You need more than just an article in a technology magazine). Stephen Shaw 18:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

No. The PSP Phone, even if it is coming, is not directly related to the PlayStation Portable console. It would be a standalone product. This will not be added in. --GSK 19:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

LED screen/LCD screen

Could someone please tell me what a "LED" screen is??? I've never heard of something like that before, and believe it is wrong. What kind of resolution is a LED screen supposed to have? LEDs are way too large to make a screen. What is the source for that anyway? Someone should fix or revert that if it's wrong.--84.129.79.43 22:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

An LED screen is similar to an LCD screen. It isn't that each pixel is created by a single LED. It means that the screen is backlit by LEDs. Stephen Shaw 18:24, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Then it's still an LCD screen, albeit with an LED backlight. "LED screen" means something quite different. In the context of this article, I think many readers would interpret it to mean OLED-based technology. Dancter 18:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

That must be what happened. Let's not change anything until we can confirm the specifications of the screen though. (The preceding comment was added by User:Stephen Shaw)

The LCD screen is Liguid Crystal Display.

PSP with voice chat

It would be cool if they write a version of skype for the PSP. So you can call people using the wifi. 210.84.5.222 08:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Sony probably wouldn't do that, especially since it's already available for the Mylo. --GSK 19:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I've recently seen an press conference that shows something called GO!Messenger that will be released for the PSP in Europe, I'm guessing that's about as close as it will come to a version of skype.Nancysing 23:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

And this isn't a forum (@ original poster). 71.178.227.4 20:40, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Region Locking

Does it have any? >.> 82.28.0.203 23:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC) No, it doesn't. If you change settings, you can see new icons for the japanese version, not available in the rest of the world. 83.38.52.200 02:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Homebrew enabling

What is now posted is bullshit (mod-chip vendor edit ??) The way to install a custom firmware is to use the pandora trick with a FAT PSP battery and a custom made Memory Stick. You can look in maxconsole, the reference source of information about firmwares and homebrew scene 83.38.52.200 02:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The whole section is very unclear and conflicting. 67.164.16.191 18:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

TV out

I saw a tv out cable in stores today, but it said it's for everything but games. Anyone know anything about this? It was appearantly a Sony product too. Is everyone just assuming it can be used with games? --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 02:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

it can be used for games, i was playing tekken and worms 2 on my friends new psp slim earlier today. 207.210.20.237 04:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

does anyone know the specs for the component output? the maximum resolution of 640x480 seems pretty weird, does this mean that the maximum widescreen resolution is smaller? do televisions support resolutions smaller than 640x480? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.219.209.162 (talk) 06:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

The Slim & Lite moniker is for U.K. & Europe only

It's called PSP in Japan and the United States. This article needs to be merged with the main PSP article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.147.158 (talk) 18:34, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Packaging wise? Maybe (although I have yet to see the package for a stand alone PSP-2000 product in the states). But the name PSP Slim & Lite is an officially dubbed Sony name. See ThreeSpeech Blog Strongsauce 10:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I own a stand alone U.S. Piano Black PSP-2000. Nowhere on the packaging or the manual does it say "Slim & Lite." Same for Japanese hardware. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.147.158 (talk) 03:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I've seen accessories referring to the new PSP as the PSP-2000. Butterfly0fdoom 03:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay so you agree with my first statement that yes packaging wise the name is different. Most likely to prevent any confusion and questions between what the two products (can I play old PSP games on this "PSP Slim & Lite"? etc). But I agree that there should be discussion for merging this article with PSP. One the one hand. The PSTwo (Slim version of the Playstation 2) does not have its own page, (PSTWO redirects to Playstation 2) but the Nintendo DS has separate entries for Nintendo DS and Nintendo DS Lite. There doesn't seem to be some template or standard to follow. Strongsauce 10:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

There is a standard. See Wikipedia:Naming_conventions it explains why there is seperate articles for Nintendo DS and Lite as they are commonly refered to those names. While in the case here no one here in America knows about the Name PSP Slim and Light and would end up going to the old page about the old system. This is why I think these articles should be merged, with the possiblility of some sections split off. Sawblade05 ^{(talk to me | my wiki life)} 08:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with above. DS Lite is actively sold as a different model with a different name. The new PSPs seem to just be replacing the older models. Having the two articles seems kinda like making a seperate article for, say, the Greatest Hits version of Devil may Cry 3 just cuz it has some extra content. Onikage725 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Image

Note that, since the new version is already released, the current image may be deleted soon. -- ReyBrujo 01:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Accessories

A note about which PSP Phat accessories do and do not work on the Slim would probably be best. The Remote/Headset plug does not work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.125.194 (talk) 17:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Somebody messed up the title

I didn't know where else to say this, sorry, but someone changed this article's title to "PSP Shity and Lousy". I tried to edit it but I'm rather new so I couldn't find out how. I would appreciate it if someone could edit it back to its original title, "PlayStation Portable Slim and Lite". Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camilo101 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I JUST REVERTED...

I had reverted this article and talk page from GayStation Portable Slim and Lite to PlayStation Portable Slim and Lite. It is NOT GAY! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT USER? WUZ THAT VANDALISM? If it was, fuck that guy! Catch ya later. iaNLOPEZ1115 (talk) 09:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

It says "The PSP Slim & Lite comes pre-installed with the "Cookies" theme, which includes additional backgrounds."

It says "The PSP Slim & Lite comes pre-installed with the "Cookies" theme, which includes additional backgrounds." Well I don't know about the PSP Slim & Lite but the "Cookies" theme is downloadable for the original PSP and doesn't include additional backgrounds. The screenshot that this text I quoted is under shows additional coloured backgrounds, though. So, if I am not mistaken, and not having a PSP Slim & Lite I don't know, it should read something more like this:

"The PSP Slim & Lite has a wider selection of background colours than the original PSP and comes pre-installed with the "Cookies" theme."

That's what I am guessing is the case, I mean.

So if that is correct could someone that knows that - cause they have a PSP Slim & Lite - edit that bit.

Also the link it sources from is broken (it's a "404 not found"). 85.211.74.214 (talk) 08:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I have a slim & lite, so I don't know what the original had. Mine comes with cookies theme already on it which includes a wallpaper (picture of a cookie if you wanted to know). Also it does include all those colours, but that screenshot is out of date, the colours are under a section called 'color', not under 'theme'. 80.195.13.164 (talk) 18:24, 20 January 2008 (UTC)