Talk:Thin Lizzy

Dual guitar

In the article: "This style was later refined and popularised by bands of the emerging New Wave of British Heavy Metal, Judas Priest and Iron Maiden especially. The latter group in particular has praised Thin Lizzy extensively and even covered the song"

Not exact. Priest's 1st album, Rocka Rolla, which prominently displays dual lead, and especially their innovation of dual rhythm, was released by the time they recruited a second guitar. Eric Bell left before the completion of "Vagabonds" and Moore recorded the rest but they didn't record together. For Nightlife, Robbo did most of the job, and Gorahm joined when all was nearly finished. AS I said, Priest had the album out before even Gorham was hired. www.jpfo.org

"One-hit" US-centric

The term "one-hit wonder" relating to "The Boys Are Back In Town" has got to be US-centric since that was the band's only "hit" in the United States, and the band never really toured much here as a result. However, they had quite a few hits in Europe, particularly in Ireland and the UK, and had solid cult followings in Australia and Canada. There is also a surprising number of fans here in the United States who have a substantial Lizzy collection, though much of this has to be obtained from Canada or overseas since most of the band's catalogue is no longer in print by American record companies.--MarshallStack 22:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

It's total crap, I think the person that made that hasn't ever head "Jailbreak", "Whiskey in the Jar".Fentoro 04:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Not a one hit wonder at all

Notable songs/hits include "Jailbreak", "Whisky in the jar", "Boys are back in town", "Rosalie", "Sara", "Waiting for an alibi", "Dancing in the moonlight" etc etc exolon 23:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Point made

Guys, I think the point has been made. User:AlfredG hasn't made a contribution since August last year and User:Arvatov came and went in November last year. Don't lose any more sleep over it. Not the most popular band ever but certainly noteable and not a one hit wonder. SilentC 23:48, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

The Peel Sessions

Should Thin Lizzy's Peel Sessions album be included in the discography? Maybe under live albums? -- Borb 18:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Lizzy on TOTP, November 1979

Can anyone tell me, exactly who was the lead guitarist alongside Scott when the band performed the single Sarah. I listen to the band but have never known at all times who performed what and I don't recognize the guitarist to the left. It must have been then that Snowy White joined the band but this doesn't look like him, and it doesn't appear to be Gary Moore either, whom I think left the bad the same year, obviously Midge Ure didn't have longish curly hair. Sorry if I appear ignorant. Evlekis 12 May 2006

That guitarist might have been Dave Flett - he was a brief stand-in before White came along, but I haven't seen the footage so can't be sure. Bretonbanquet 20:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

It is Dave Flett and the drummer is Clive Edwards from Brian Robertson's band 'Wild Horses'.

Phil O Phil O 23:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Wah on lead "distinctive and influential"?

To fair this wasn't a novel technique (e.g. Jimi- Voodoo Child (Slight Return))

Best Known song

The article twice states that 'The Boys are Back in Town' is their best known song. Most people I know when I mention Thin Lizzy immediately say 'Whisky in the Jar' and I notice this charted higher in the UK than the other song.

This is just the US perspective Vs British Isles view once again. 'The boys are back in town' is a staple in US classic rock radio stations and shows up regularly in TV commercials, and once in a while you hear 'Jailbreak' on the radio, but 3,000 miles to the east, I would have to agree with you that 'Whiskey in the Jar' comes out on top. I think the article could be clarified to make that clear.Dmccabe 03:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Although I don't have any reference for this, it was a well known fact that Phil Lynott despised the fact that Whiskey in the Jar was their most popular and best known song. They never played it at any of the 7 or 8 concerts I went to and requests from the front row for it to be played, were met with comments like 'No we're not playing Whiskey in the f***ing jar'. I think Phil was always frustrated by the fact that their most successful song was not an original Lizzy composition, nor was it in what he considered to be, their trademark genre. Far Canal 05:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Genre

In case anyone is inquiring about "heavy metal," it is simply there due majority of traditional metal bands on Wikipedia having "heavy metal" under their respective genre boxes, and Thin Lizzy shouldn't be an exception. Just thought I'd clear that up. --Ryouga 01:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not starting an argument, and classifiying bands is always beyond my patience, but I'd say that only "Thunder and Lightning" was Heavy Metal, with "Renegade" being somewhere on the way to HM. Nothing before that was anything like it. Bretonbanquet 20:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Just like a lot of other early hard rock bands with the metal tag, they are not completely "metal." In all honesty though, they are more metal than bands like KISS and Led Zeppelin, who also receive the label on Wikipedia. That is why it should stick. Although I agree that they are basically a hard rock band, the metal part is still there, minimal or not. What they lack in "metalness" they make up for in immense influence. (Also, being listed in the Encyclopaedia Metallum must indicate some degree of metal, they are pretty elite when it comes to bands allowed.) --Ryouga 23:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't disagree with the tag, and I would definitely agree that their main claim to "metalness" lies in their influence on other bands, and that they're more metal than KISS and LZ. I think the problem lies in defining metal and controlling which bands get the metal tag on Wikipedia - lots of people add it where it's not warranted, and take it off where it should be present. Very difficult! Bretonbanquet 18:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree, however, as long as it's a classic rock band that influenced metal, I'll be ok with it. I just dislike having any mention of "metal" on nü metal, modern rock and metalcore band pages. But as we all know, Lizzy is pretty deserving of the title, if we include the influential bands. --Ryouga 21:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Member, personnel list and info box

Sorry - the infobox MUST mention Phil.

The lists seem excessive - is it really necessary ? Or could we have a simpler format ?

And that box - really, Phil should be as big as everyone else.

-- Beardo 02:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

It doesnt look good having Lynott & Downey and "and various guitarists" (which isnt correct anyway, as there's a former keyboardist). I Think the infobox should either just have "See Personnel" (Lynott is already mentioned in the infobox in the photo caption, and also in the 2nd line of the article) or have every former member listed, regardless of the number (See Iron Maiden). Ezenden 04:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Technically the more recent incarnation of the band's a totally different band. We could have the article effectively divided into two (on the same page still, mind), with a seperate info box in each. So call the new one "The New Thin Lizzy" or something. (The Elfoid 11:20, 11 May 2007 (UTC))

They havent released any new material, they just play original Thin Lizzy. It features members from the original incarnation. Its the same name, same emblem etc and as every source, includng this very Wikipedia article will tell you; they 'reunited'. So how exactly is it a "totally different band"? Are you seriously suggesting every band that reforms without all its original or "classic" members should be considered a new, seperate entity? If so, good luck on attempting to edit the endless number of band articles where this situation has occured. This article clearly points out the difference between and the history of the Lynott Lizzy and post-Lynott Lizzy; there is no need to create a fictional "New Thin Lizzy" band. Ezenden 14:24, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I believe that with Lynott as the only constant member, he at one point may have held legal rights to the name. Which would mean the name was passed on. (The Elfoid 16:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC))

i am trying to find out who phil was married to thanks seemly he had a well known father inlaw

It's in the Phil Lynott article. Bretonbanquet 19:40, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't wish to upset the apple-cart peeps but there really should be no mention of any 'incarnation' of the band after Philip Lynott died in 1986. Once he was gone, any hopes or dreams of the band 'reforming' were well and truly lost.

What has been out there touring on and off since 1994 is a truly a fictional "New Thin Lizzy band" and neither they nor the album - 'One Night Only' - they released, should be included in any history of the band Thin Lizzy.

Phil O - www.thin-lizzy.info, www.philip-lynott.com Phil O 23:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Currently, Midge Ure's stint as guitarist is mentioned in the text but he is not listed in the band personnel.

Smcleish 12:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The Farewell Tour

Thin Lizzy's fairwell tour was in 1983. Not 1984. Thin Lizzy never had any gigs in 1984. Their last show was in Nuremburg September 4, 1983. This is easily verifiable so I'm not sure it was reverted back to 1984 after I had changed it once. Thin Lizzy never existed after 1983. The5thhorseman 19:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Header too long

Put some of that in body. (The Elfoid (talk) 01:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC))

Reference in Guitar Hero 3

In the game Guitar Hero 3, an alternate outfit for Lou is a demon called Thick Izzy, a parody of Thin Lizzy. Where would this go?