Talk:Bullet for My Valentine

New album

Maintains some metalcore values but it has a touch of power metal in my opinion. Should I put that in there?

Find sources saying they are power metal. Just because you think it retains elements of power metal, does not mean they do. M3tal H3ad 03:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

GA nomination on hold

Leave a note on my talk page when you've dealt with the issues listed below. Dihydrogen Monoxide ^♫ 06:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

• If the band formed in 1998, this should be noted in the infobox (rather than 2003).

Well BFMV formed in 2003 but i have noted when their previous band formed in the infobox

OK, that's fine.

• "Although the offer was turned down, the band secured a five album record deal with Sony BMG." - This implies that the Sony deal was unexpected after turning down the Roadrunner deal - I doubt this is the case. Perhaps reword to "The offer was turned down, and the band later secured a five album deal with Sony BMG."

Changed

• "the album has since sold 339,000 copies in the U.S. as of 8 November 2007." - Remove the "since", and be sure to update this regularly...

Changed, and will update

• Matt Tuck --> Matthew Tuck (keep it consistent throughout the article)

Done

• At the start of the history section, either have wikilinks for all instruments, or for none. At the moment, there's one wikilink for background vocals, and nothing else...

I only linked background because everyone knows what a guitar is but i linked them all for consistency

• "Playing Nirvana and Metallica songs," - Change "songs" to "covers"

Done

• "the band released a two-track CD in 2002, produced by Greg Haver called (You/Play With Me)" - Is the name supposed to be in brackets? Also, change "produced by Greg Haver called" to "produced by Greg Haver, and called"

Done

• wlink for Radio 1 or Newport's TJ's?

Linked both

• Any idea why Cradle left?

Not at the moment

• "A second EP, (often referred to as a mini album)" - We can work out what EPs are referred to by reading the EP article...

Done

• "which was only available in the United States" - Change "which" to "and"

Done

• "Decibel Magazine" should be wikilinked in the "Signed to a record label" section.

Done

• "Zombie made the band price match his merchandise ($40 a shirt), although the band were only allowed two pieces...which resulted in and Tuck referring to the headliner as "money-grabbing fucks"." - Suggest rewording too something like "Zombie made the band price match his merchandise ($40 a shirt). The band were only allowed to play two pieces...(new sentence)Because of the poor conditions, Tuck referred to Zombie as "money-grabbing fucks"." Does this make sense?

I understand and have changed this

• Refs 9 and 24 point to the same page.

Don't know how i missed that :S

• Is the "Waking the Demon" reference notable?

Nope, removed

• "we're not into that just being loud for the sake of it"[27]" - Need a full stop (.) here.

Done

• A table could be created for the awards section, or alternatively you could create the List of Bullet for My Valentine awards list. See List of Powderfinger awards for a demo.

I don't think there is enough content for a separate article at the moment, will see what happens after the next album is released.

• "Bullet for My Valentine has received coverage in music magazines including being featured on the covers of Metal Hammer and Kerrang, and stories in Revolver, Outburn, Penthouse, Rock Sound, NME, Hit Parader, Total Guitar, Guitar One, Drummer Magazine and Alternative Press.[29]" - Not sure if this is noteworthy

I think it is, plus it beefs the section up

• The discography is expanding, you could consider a Bullet for My Valentine discography (ref. Powderfinger discography) some time soon.

Will do after more singles

• Need a category for the year the band formed (eg. Category:Musical groups established in 1998). You might also want to create a Category:Bullet for My Valentine, in which all the album/song articles can be stored.

Added 2003 when BFMV official formed

Reviewed version: [1]

Cheers, Dihydrogen Monoxide ^♫ 06:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the review :). M3tal H3ad (talk) 07:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Passed :) — Dihydrogen Monoxide 00:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Thrash Metal

Lol there seems to be a war at the moment. There are elements of thrash metal in their music but not enough to be classified as thrash. Especially their new stuff is not really thrashy. Although that is my personal opinion, what does everyone else think? RPI 22:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Their genre should be Hevay Metal. Thats it, Heavy. Metal. They are in no way metalcore, at all, listin to other metalcore bands. No.No.No.No. They are Metal. The End.--153.42.135.159 (talk) 18:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

hell no. they aren't metal, you idiot. they're metalcore, not metal. there's a fine line between the two genres. bullet is a lot more hardcore than metal, t heir music is more vocally aggressive than instrumentally agressive. besides, if they were metal, metallum would have accepted them a long time ago, rather than labeling them as one of the metalcore bands that you should never try to enter. Itachi1452 (talk) 21:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Stay WP:CIVIL in future, please. And Encyclopaedia Metallum is just an amateur fansite, what it says has no bearing whatsoever on Wikipedia. Funeral 21:38, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

go look on the 10 Years talk page, and look at how well that reflects on the civil. my responses were sabotaged continuously. (also, if you can, could you do that "the unsigned comment was written by soand so thing? i don't know how). but it's not just that, bfmv sounds like hawthorne heights decided to play heavier music. that's all. Itachi1452 (talk) 01:29, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

"listin to other metalcore bands."

That Bullet seem to sound an awful lot like? On The Poison and the EPs at least.

I think we could at least mention increased thrash elements in their music, it's a lot faster and somewhat less hardcore, emphasising the metal part of the sound more than the hardcore part, I still wouldn't call it thrash but it s thrashier. 62.252.193.221 (talk) 21:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I like to think of them as thrash metalcore,i wouldnt call em heavy metal,there guitars arent distorted enough for that,they do have the speed of thrash though,and the screaming vocals of metalcore.

history section/nu-metal

Where it states that the band wanted to follow the nu-metal trends, the examples are Korn and Limp Bizkit. Korn should be used as a valid example as they were the ones that are renouned for starting the nu-metal genre, but also, instead of Limp Bizkit being an example, Linkin Park should be used, as they are better pioneers and the highest selling act of the genre. Furthermore, Linkin Park are currently active where as Limp Bizkit arn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.252.174 (talk) 14:42, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Linkin Park didn't even exist in 1997, so how were Jeff Killed John supposed to follow their trends? Funeral 16:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, Linkin Park were formed in the spring of 1996. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.252.174 (talk) 09:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

and Hybrid theory was released in like 1999-2000? So they couldnt of set a trend in 1996-97 M3tal H3ad (talk) 05:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you know what nu metal is?A combination of rap and metal,linkin park doesn't use distorted guitars,a common use in metal,in my opinion linkin park is just a mainstream rap rock band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.235.191.138 (talk) 01:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Capitalisation

Why is the article capitalized as "Bullet for My Valentine" when Scream Aim Fire clearly shows a capital "F" on "For". Why would they choose a capital for "My" and not for "For" if no cited explanation is available the article should be renamed to reflect the Album. Luke255 (talk) 00:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)