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Encyclopedic value of Products list

Is an encyclopedia the place for a list of products that a company produces, unless the products themselves are notable? If not, should the product list on this page perhaps be removed? TigerShark 01:47, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I agree. People looking for general information on iRiver aren't going to want a list of their products. That kind of stuff can be kept on iRiver's website(s), and will be more up-to-date that way. Midg3t 10:51, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I used this page to find information on their products, so I thought it was useful. (I also had to correct one memory capacity issue, but the rest was great.) Product history is great for people buying used items when the manufacturer doesn't list them because they're not currently manufactured. User:B.Krause March 19th, 2007

This is gonna sound pathetic, but: If you're not certain one way or another, I'd really rather you left the product lists on there, they took me (and other people) quite a lot of time and work to compile. At least email me at thomashiles@gmail.com if a decision is made so I can save the list to my computer. Thanks. pomegranate 19:48, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia's version tracking (aka history) saves all past revisions of an article. Reub2000 11:19, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Are the ifp-8xx series really candy-bar shaped? I have one and I don't really think so, it's definitely more prism-shaped. Is there a source for that info? Urbster1 18:12, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You're right, but I couldn't think of a better word for them.. well, Toblerone is prism-shaped, huh? pomegranate 18:51, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Shouldn't this page have more information about iRiver, the release dates of the new mp3s for 2005 and more information about the company? If you want, I could update it because I am a iRiver fan ^^daniel 20:55, 11 July, 2005 (AEST)

Iriver has recently begun writing their company name in all lowercase as can be seen on all their material. Shouldn't all instances of "iRiver" be changed to "iriver" or at least "Iriver"? --Rasher 17:59, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Limited OGG support

Quote: "The IFP will only play OGG files encoded at >96kbps and < 225kpbs. (...) From what I have learnt, it is unlikely that iRiver will change this limitation in the future."

I noticed no such limitation for the iRiver T10. Most of my OGG Vorbis files are encoded at ca. 80kbps, and all of them play fine. Aragorn2 18:49, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Discontinued Products

Should we really consider the H100 and H300 lines as not being discontinued? iriver of America has stopped supporting and making both of them. Europe only offers the H300. Korea is the only one that offers both. Shouldn't there at least be a note next to them? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stu L Tissimus (talk • contribs).

Trivia

This may sound stupid, but I recently noticed that an upside-down mirror image of the iriver logo spells "iliagl", which sounds quite a lot like "illegal" to me. I doubt that this has any place in the article, as it's probably not intentional, but it's a kinda fun fact ;)

It's a stretch, at best...--NPswimdude500 21:31, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

UMS and MTP Support

I've added some notes in flash players and alternative firmware on the availability (since May 2006) of the firmware updater. Consequently also removed a comment criticising T30 for not have UMS support. Hope that's OK. Ralphbk 06:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Current Event?

Sorry If I neglected something obvious, but what does the current event tag on the page refer to? --Zephirum 20:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was for CES but I don't really understand why it was needed. I'll remove it. Michael Greiner 04:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Author

The guy who wrote this doesnt know wat hes talking about —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.99.150.228 (talk • contribs).

picture of a red t10

I took a picture of a red t10 to include in the article: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Iriver_t10_red.jpg

any objections? --212.202.42.68 13:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. Michael Greiner 13:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CES page

I'm sorry but I don't see the multilingual content that we are supposed to be linking to here. Yes the list of products has short feature summaries of the products, but aside from that at least two thirds is in Korean. Why are we linking to this page? What information are we supposed to be getting from it? AlistairMcMillan 04:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They're showing off prototypes of as-yet-unreleased products coming over the next year. That's what they show off at CES. Since this is hard-to-find information, it deserves a link. Yakuman (数え役満) 04:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where exactly in the linked article does it say this? All I can see is a list of products and "iriver at CES2007". Wouldn't it be better to link an article like this that covers at least some of the same products and actually talks about them? AlistairMcMillan 05:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Old river logo2.jpg

Image:Old river logo2.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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Fair use rationale for Image:IRiver logo.png

Image:IRiver logo.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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Fair use rationale for Image:IRiver logo.png

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iriver ebook reader?

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/13/iriver-prepping-handwriting-friendly-e-book-tablet/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.147.101 (talk) 18:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

need for disambiguation

This article uses the symbol GB (for gigabyte) with two different meanings. Sometimes it means 1 billion bytes (1000³ B) and sometimes 1 gibibyte (1024³ B). Following mosnum, I have tried to help the reader by indicating on first use and then each time the meaning changes which kind of gigabytes they are. I'm sure the meaning can be made clearer, though I am not sure how. I welcome suggestions from editors. Thunderbird2 (talk) 10:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops didn't notice your discussion section when I made my change. Anyway, here are my thoughts. The Wikipedia Manual of style says on the topic : There is no consensus to use the newer IEC-recommended prefixes in Wikipedia articles to represent binary units. There is consensus that editors should not change prefixes from one style to the other, especially if there is uncertainty as to which term is appropriate within the context—one must be certain whether "100 GB" means binary not decimal units in the material at hand before disambiguation.

So what I would take this to mean is, don't change GB to GiB unless you can cite a source that specifically says it is GiB. From my experience, manufacturers will slap a 1GB title on a product when it does not exactly match either 10^9 of 2^30 so we should use GB to cover this vagueness. --WaterWolf (talk) 17:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]