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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by PIO (talk | contribs) at 12:15, 22 March 2008 (→‎Edit warring at National sport). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Warning

Do not get others to revert on your behalf to avoid 3RR per previous message. I wasn't getting anyone to revert on my behalf. I simply didn't want to break the rule even though the revert needs to be done, and so I simply ask someone else if they can revert it. You just contradicted yourself. Timeshift (talk) 22:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The bottom line is that you have requested someone else to revert so you can avoid 3RR. Whether they proceed to is not the issue here. Them's the facts that you cannot run away from. Timeshift (talk) 22:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Per above. Timeshift (talk) 23:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was wrong. Good to hear. Next time, advise an admin of the issue rather than getting around 3RR. Conversation concluded. Timeshift (talk) 05:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You canvass against me in this message: you may be blocked for it.--PIO (talk) 11:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring at National sport

You are currently involved in an edit war at National sport. Please remember that such behaviour does not benefit Wikipedia in any way, and in fact you may be blocked for it (especially, but not always, if you have made four or more reverts in 24 hours).

Therefore, please remember: if you are having a dispute with somebody over an article, you must follow the dispute resolution process - that is, discuss your differences with the other parties. Sometimes, that is all it takes: leave a message on their talk page, and come to an agreement civilly and peacefully. Once again, bear in mind that revert warring is not acceptable and you may be blocked for it: you should consider this a final warning on the matter. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards,
AGK (talk) 13:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Californian editor, maybe -dude- are you and your father!!!! You will explain because canvass against me and don't consider mediation by MBisanz then always you insert Australia in list of nations where cricket is most popular sport. There is a substantial difference between concepts of -national sport- and -popular sport-: do you understand this matter or no? For example, pallone col braciale is certainly an Italian ancient national sport and it was most popular sport in Italy during almost four centuries but currently other sports are more popular than bracciale; other example, padel Tennis is most participated sport in Argentina but it isn't an Argentinian national sport nor most popular now because this sport was invented by a Mexican person and attendance of tournaments is not more high than attendance of various sports. Guy0307 is wrangler user but I agree with his final sentence in this comment: it is impossible to say what is the most popular sport; in fact this my edit shows that it's impossible to assert what is sure the most popular sport in the world!!!! Sources pertinent sports in Australia consider Australian rules football and rugby 13 a side more popular by far than cricket: rugby 15 a side, rugby 13 a side, rugby 10 a side, rugby 9 a side and rugby 7 a side are different sports so as American football 12 a side, American football 11 a side, American football 9 a side, American football 8 a side, American football 7 a side, American football 6 a side and American football 5 a side are different sports too.--PIO (talk) 13:35, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You need a strong machete to cut a path through the jungle of that top-quality PIO contribution, and there you have the essence of the problem in a few hundred words. Not just grammatically inept, but hopelessly wide of the mark in its assertions and a long way short on the knowledge stakes too. "rugby 15 a side" well, that's union, "rugby 13 a side", that'll be league, "rugby 7 a side", well that'd be Seven's, a form of union, but I must admit to being a bit lost about all the others. I can't help you much with what a "wrangler user" might be. Perhaps PIO'll be along in a while to explain. And as for this 'padel tennis' being Argentina's most participated in sport... well, I'd be surprised if anything beat football in Argentina... AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 22:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Slovenian buddy, you understand Italian language and you can read this source: in voce Sport in Argentina nel sito italiano collegato devi leggere la sezione realtà da evidenziare; devi considerare che i dati si riferiscono al 1993 quindi i giocatori amatoriali argentini sono certamente di più adesso. Il padel tennis è praticato in molte nazioni, Italia compresa. In lingua italiana le definizioni sono it:rugby a 15, it:rugby a 13, it:rugby a 7 come pure in lingua francese fr:rugby à XV, fr:rugby à XIII, fr:rugby à sept. Per meglio intenderci devi spiegare a questo utente californiano che in Sport in New Zealand nell'introduzione si legge New Zealand's most popular sport is rugby union, the national sport come pure in Sport in Wales nelle prime frasi si legge the most popular sports in Wales are rugby union and Football (soccer). But rugby union is commonly referred to as the country's national sport attracting the largest crowds for international matches!!!! Dunque questa versione vandalizza il mio valido contributo; THUGCHILDz si dichiara appassionato di cricket ma non lo deve mettere dappertutto vandalizzando i miei contributi!!!!--PIO (talk) 13:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I understand PIO. Those are the Italian terms for these sports, but nothing close to the English terms. I don't think I agree that "you must consider that the data refer to 1993 therefore there are surely more Argentinian players now". And nobody is trying to vandalise your contributions. It's just that other people disagree with your opinion and your methods. I think you are too quick to revert and too slow to discuss. You appear to be stubborn and unwilling to listen to what other people are saying. I also think that national sport entries for each country should be restricted to people from that country. I think you need a certain sense of a country to be able to see what its national sports are. You need to be able to see beyond stats and tv figures. By and large, only people from a place can do that.
And yes THUGSCHILDz, in reply to your msg on my talk, I know you know. Referring to the differennt forms as I did was just a rhetorical device. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 21:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This image is rubbish because colours are confused and soccer stays in all corners: sure garbage!!!! THUGCHILDz, you are boisterous POV warrior.--PIO (talk) 11:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Baseball and Basketball are just as popular and as important to American culture as football is. Wrigley field and Fenway Park are far more revered then any football staduim. Baseball is labled by pretty much every american as the national pastime. And as for basketball the intensity of March Madness should be enough proof that basketball is too important to be ignored —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.41.17 (talk) 21:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

THUGCHILDz, you don't know my IPs then stop your lies pertinent escape a ban by me. You insist in this edit war and somebody to be opposed you.--PIO (talk) 12:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Thugchidz

I'm finished with the article. All what I changed was according to the Sport in X articles. Guy0307 (talk) 05:57, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation Closed

After trying at this for over a month, I am of the opinion that we have exhausted all possible options. Every conceivable wording has been put forward, and still there is dissent over which version should be used on the various pages. Therefore, I am declaring this mediation at an impasse and have closed it. Parties should continue to discuss it and may seek out other forms of dispute resolution. I would advise all parties involved to remain civil and to follow proper policies in handling the matter further. Thank you. MBisanz talk 05:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Notifying

Hello, THUGCHILDz. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#THUGCHILDz_again regarding a complaint against you. The discussion can be found under the topic topic. --MBisanz talk 18:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think you are at fault. I closed the mediation as no-consensus, so it should not be cited to as a binding consensus. I would ask at the noticeboard for PIO to produce the diffs of your abuse. Citing a page-link is not considered actionable evidence, citing diffs it. MBisanz talk 19:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to add my opinion that you are not at fault. Thugs, you're a good editor who's done nothing at all except work towards a positive result. I hope I'm in the same group. I think we know the history of this, and who the party responsible for the edit war is. Wikipedia relies on editors being pragmatic, it doesn't have mechanisms for dealing with those for whom consensus is an entirely alien concept. It's not in PIO's nature to compromise. We all know that this started, and has gone on, because PIO wants to say that Rules is the be all and end all of Aussie sports. Personally, I hope he carries on his attempt at Association Football to say that it's not the most popular sport in the world. Given that we just know that it is, and given that this is a heavy traffic article, I expect that it'll be his comeuppance. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 22:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  1. AlasdairGreen27, your opinion is absurd!!!! I inserted not only footy but 3 sports most popular pertinent Australia and South Africa in national sport: do you understand or no???? In soccer's article some statements asserting most popular sport in the world are total lies of propaganda by soccer international federation: do you understand or no???? If you and your Californian friend are ignorant about sports and you are wrangler, responsability is not mine: do you understand or no???? We all edit in articles not for a compromise but for sourced statements: do you understand or no???? Stop your crazy lies against me!!!! My comments are always friendly with you: what do you want by me???? You are also a vandal who made this provoking action against valid editor!!!! Shame on you!!!!
  2. THUGCHILDz, you are a disaster!!!! You don't consider 3 sports pertinent Australia and South Africa but insist pushing only cricket in crazy edit warring!!!! I remove your cricketer's garbage rightly.--PIO (talk) 14:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We should insert Australia in a new Countries with three most popular sports like PIO is suggesting. It follows what we agreed to in the Mediation, although I don't like the inclusion of RL but never mind. Guy0307 (talk) 14:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]