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Re: Spam blacklist

I had actually added an extensive report to the blacklist page right before you pasted my comment -- but stupid me, I added it to the proposed removals instead of the proposed additions. ha ha ha... anyway, thanks for the help! :) --Jaysweet (talk) 13:04, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Fantastic, that's a much more thorough report. Thanks. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Faith in Action

Edgar, would you be able to help me comply with the numerous requests on the Faith in Action page? I am not truly getting what I need to do or if someone else has to do it? I appreciate any help given. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Volunteers2502 (talk • contribs) 14:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, the cleanup requests were a bit excessive, so I've removed a couple of them and also a little bit of copyediting. What the article really needs are citations to reliable sources independent of Faith in Action. Newspaper articles, mentions on third-party websites, etc. Can you try to find these kinds of things and add them to the article as references? This will help the article meet verifiability and notability guidelines. 15:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Edgar for your help, I can come up with some articles and hopefully I can put them up there (my confidence level is sinking fast) lol Jackey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Volunteers2502 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

re block of User:216.220.94.82

I indef blocked them because they had been blocked previously and hadn't made any good contribs. Plus, there was no note on the talk page or in the block log that said it was a school IP. The Placebo Effect (talk) 14:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I was about to give them a six-month block, but you beat me to it. I just wondered if there was more than what I was seeing. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I decided to switch it to a one year {{schoolblock}}. If you object, please let me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

6 Month Block?

Hey, I'm not one to question an admin, but 6months? They hadn't been warned since 11 Feb, which was also only a Level 1 warning. I'm definetly not a vandal sympathiser. But as shown, it's a shared IP, it could have been a completely different user. Perhaps a shorter block might be appropriate here, perhaps a week? 6 months seems a bit too severe here, in my opinion. Steve Crossin (talk to me) 17:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Based on a history of repeated vandalism and multiple prior month+ blocks, a 6 month block is what I will routinely apply in this situation. The block is anonymous only, so registered users will still be able to edit, but the anonymous vandalism will be prevented. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, you are the admin after all. Was just voicing my thoughts, as I watch and check reports on AIV quite a bit. Cheers, Steve Crossin (talk to me) 17:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It's always good to ask - both as a chance to catch mistakes and to learn why. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Methoxylamine Hydrochloride

On a different subject, I see chemistry is your special field. I've been trying to write an article on Methoxylamine Hydrochloride (was a requested article) but I'm a bit stuck for sources. And a 3D model would help as well. Any suggestions? Steve Crossin (talk to me) 17:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd recommend creating an article for the parent compound methoxylamine. Information about salts of that compound, such as the hydrochloride could be added as well. Basic data for an infobox can be found at PubChem [1]. To get information for the article, Google Scholar might be the place to start. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks a lot. I'll have to try putting that all into an infobox. I think its time to go bed, I'm exhausted. Thanks for your help, and reponse to my question about the block. If I need help with that article, I'll know who to ask for help. Cheers, Steve Crossin (talk to me) 17:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!

This editor is a
**Veteran Editor II**
and is entitled to display this
**Bronze Editor Star**.

Thanks, Bob! -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

212.219.191.184

212.219.191.84 It appears that there is no reference to how long the block is in the template, not sure if this is intentional or just an oversight. Just thought i would bring it up, Cheers.

AnnaJGrant (talk) 12:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The length of the block is an optional parameter in the blocking template and I usually don't fill it in. This one is for a month - info that can always be found in the block log. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Pangamic acid

Hi Ed. The structural formula you drawed does not correspond to PubChem. Can you please check? Thanks. --Leyo 16:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The structure in PubChem is nonsense. Geminal amino groups like that would not be stable, particularly with bulky di-isopropyl substitution. My structure matches the one given by Chemical Abstracts. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:27, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

That's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure before correcting the incorrect article on de-WP. --Leyo 18:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Faith in Action

Ed, Is there anyway to move the tags on the Faith in Action page so they are not at the top until all requrements are met? Volunteers2502 (talk) 13:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)JackeyVolunteers2502 (talk) 13:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

They are typically placed at the top. I don't really know if anyone will object if you simply move them to the bottom. Go ahead and move them - the worst that can happen is that someone will move them back. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:38, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Drug articles that do not have chemical structures yet

Hi. I just want to know, why are there no chemical structures in the following articles?

Could you please create chemical structures for these drugs? :-) Carlo Banez (talk) 16:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

It looks like User:Fvasconcellos already took care of apricitabine. I added images to the other two. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Oligomycin

Hi Ed, one small question: Your Pic refers to Oligomycin A, because there exists also other types (B till F?), right? I was just wondering, cause I will use your pic in the German Wikipedia. Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 11:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is oligomycin A. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Information about arzoxifene

Hello. Another article about a drug has been created. It is all about arzoxifene, an experimental selective estrogen receptor modulator. Could you add further information on this article? :-) Carlo Banez (talk) 11:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I added an image and some categories. I'll see if I can find anything else. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Information about nadifloxacin

Hello, Ed. I have created a new article, which is about the topical antibiotic nadifloxacin. Could you create a chemical structure for it? :-) Carlo Banez (talk) 17:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've added an image and a bit of data to the drugbox. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Azidomorphine

Hi Edgar. Would you mind terribly drawing a nicer structure for azidomorphine? I've put one there which will do for now, but I'm not sure what the best way to draw an azide group should be as I'd imagine its delocalised rather than having formal charges as shown, and also I realised that it should be bent and I drew it linear, very sloppy of me.Meodipt (talk) 11:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Drawing the charges like that on an azide is just fine. I created an image uploaded to Commons with the proper geometry around the first nitrogen. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Mikethecoug

Ed, I'm not one to have any regard or respect for persistent vandals, but this guy User Talk:Mikethecoug had not had any warnings since May 2007. I had just given a warning and went to comment at AIV when I saw you had indef. Not really questioning your decision if you want to stand by it, as his edits leave much to be desired, just giving you a heads up. Cheers. -- Alexf⁴² 12:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks like we were editing at the same time - when I looked at his talk page, the warning from you was not there yet. I wouldn't have blocked if I had seen that someone had given him one last warning. Though, with a history of vandalism for more than a year without any constructive edits in that time, indef blocking seems appropriate to me. Feel free to unblock and give a second chance if you see fit to do so. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Nope. I might, if he politely asks in a proper unblock request, else it stands. Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 12:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Piperonal structure.png

Hi Ed. I think your structures would be better (i.e. clearer for non-chemists), if you would draw the H in the aldehyde group. Otherwise, it could be confused with a ketone. --Leyo 21:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I see that there is already such a version: Image:Piperonal.svg. Sorry for the disturbance. --Leyo 21:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Methcathinone, Street Names.

I notice you have removed my addition of 'Ellie's Silly Snuff' from the selection of street names for methcathinone. I understand that I do not have a history of contributions to this site and that the information I presented could therefore be considered suspect. However I can assure you that Methcathinone has recently appeared for illicit sales in the UK under the name 'Ellie's Silly Snuff' A reply would be Appreciated.

Regards.

Information added to Wikipedia should be verifiable. Can you find something to verify the information you added - or any of the other street names? That would help. It's possible that the whole street names section should be removed unless we can find a reference to verify them. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Further information on Maropitant

Hi Ed. I have just created a new article, which is about the veterinary drug maropitant, but I have not included some information on the drugbox. Could you please edit it further? :-) Carlo Banez (talk) 16:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, done. I changed data in the infobox to match the parent compound, and put a link to the PubChem data for the citrate salt in the external links. Hopefully that's fine with you. -- Ed (Edgar181)

Structures

Dear Ed: I am putting on my curgudeony hat for this message. I think that the recently appearing pictures of nitrate salts are uhelpful and in fact they are quite misleading. These species have far more complex structures: they are 3-d polymers, right? Organic chemists would hit the roof if I said that polyethylene had the structure CH2. Okay, maybe your (if you are the artist, apologies otherwise!) intention is to represent something about solution structure. Nope, the cations are definitely not naked, but have strongly bonded ligands (in water, the ligands would be H₂O, mainly) and the nitrate would have 3-fold symmetry. If you feel strongly otherwise, we should discuss this effort or your intentions on the project page, because this aspect is kind of policy theme. Thanks,--Smokefoot (talk) 17:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I understand your concern. I saw that several articles, such as ammonium nitrate and sodium nitrate, already had structures drawn as I have done. And since so many other nitrate compounds were listed in the category of needing a chemical structure drawing, I created those images. These images aren't intended to be representative of three-dimensional crystallographic form - much the same way a typical skeletal structure of an organic compound isn't representative of conformation. But they have value in the context of understanding connectivity. If these images are inappropriate, I don't mind if they all need to be removed or replaced. Perhaps this is something that should be brought up at one of the chemistry wikiprojects. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I will probably leave them be. One further comment in response to your organicker remark "much the same way a typical skeletal structure of an organic compound isn't representative of conformation." the pictures of the nitrates have almost zero relation to reality, whereas the 2-dimensional projections of an organic molecules has got the connectivity correct. BTW, thanks for all of your work (aside from this transgression!). Cheers, --Smokefoot (talk) 23:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the reverts on my user page. At least the troll wasn't being subtle. Do we have a new site to add to the black list? He seemed delighted with some danged thing or other. Utgard Loki (talk) 12:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. I don't think there is any need for blacklisting unless the link is repeatedly added. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

a shiny

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For clearing an ENORMOUS backlog in AIV, finally stopping my edit-warring with like 10 vandals, I, J.delanoy ^gabs _adds, award you this shiny. J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 14:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Man, I was scrambling around trying to find an admin who was on in between fighting like 10 people, as I said. Thanks for getting rid of all those vandals. J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 14:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar. That was probably the longest backlog I've seen at AIV. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

A thank you

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

admin request

Hello, could you please restore Image:Changingcube.gif? The commons version doesn't provide a useful history, the log entry here indicates a copyvio. I'd like to get some further clues before acting at commons. --32X (talk) 12:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, done. Please just let me know if it needs to be deleted again at some point. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I have the information I needed, you may delete it now again. --32X (talk) 12:34, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. It's now re-deleted. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

about ctn-music.com supposed spams

Hi, I'm the webmaster and the publisher of the website ctn-music.com, our site is a webmagazine like others, we talks, we write articles and critics about artists, it's our job, why are you considering us as spam ? our articles are related about the artists pages, they are linked in their official website and official forum. Why some fansites or some articles from "BIG website" like Aol are listed in wikipedia, tel me the difference between them and us ? Your position is inacceptable and insulting our job ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.8.145.203 (talk) 10:21, 13 April 2008 (UTC)