User talk:Edgar181/Archive2

Your message on my talk page

Thanks very much for your support! Every time I check my watchlist, at least 50% of the updates are by you :) It's great working on Wikipedia with such talented and dedicated chemists as you. Cheers!

Ben 01:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC).

Dehydration article

Thanks for your fix of my initial attempt at including chemical dehydration in the article which previously only addressed medical dehydration. I learned a bit more today about the topic and went back to revise my entry, but found that you had already made the change I realized were necessary. --Mikebrand 00:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The Dwyer Group

Seemed to make the most sense to me. Mr. Rooter is probably the only component of the group that would meet notability standards, but the others might be plausible search terms. thanks for digging up that source, btw. Cheers. youngamerican (talk) 16:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Biopharmaceutical is the Science Collaboration of the Week

You voted for Biopharmaceutical and this article is now the current Science Collaboration of the Week! Please help to improve it to match the quality of an ideal Wikipedia science article.

Samsara (talk • contribs) 20:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

typo

NP - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 20:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Farnesene changes

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Farnesene.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

I reuploaded your image as A-Farnesene.png & uploaded one for B-Farnesene. I also edited Farnesene. Just letting you know that I marked your original image for deletion as a result. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawn Burn (talk • contribs)

OK, thanks for letting me know. Nice changes to farnesene. --Ed (Edgar181) 11:03, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Cholesterol

Beautiful new image, but at 250px width it doesn't scale too well - some lines are blurred or aliassed. I have changed it to 333 (which is 1/4 its width) but you may want to consider uploading a version that doesn't have this problem. JFW | T@lk 13:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks okay now. Cheers. JFW | T@lk 13:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Please watch

Please watch amygdala. Thank you. Koalabyte 01:58, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Is there anything in particular that you would like me to watch for?--Ed (Edgar181) 17:46, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Please comment

Talk:Enzyme_inhibitor#Merge --Steven Fruitsmaak 18:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

RfA offer

Hello Edgar. I hope you had a good break. Since I randomly came across you earlier this year and awarded you a barnstar for your Chemistry work, I have seen you all over the place. I think you would make a good admin. I am willing to nominate you. If you are interested, please let me know (or if you are not). Regards, Blnguyen | rant-line 00:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I also updated your User:Edgar181/articles page to add a few of your latest contribs.Blnguyen | rant-line 03:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for answering my RfA question to you. If you are at all curious, the utility I mentioned has a non-commericial requirement. Can't commercially distribute the images on Compact Discs. The images it produces can't be used on wikipedia, it even has a copyright tag, {{CACTVSGIF }}. Kevin_b_er 22:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I must admit I missed that. And, yes, I was a bit curious why you asked that question. Now I understand. :) --Ed (Edgar181) 00:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Glad to see it's going well. A pleasure. Blnguyen | rant-line 03:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar!

And for starting P57! I think hoodia will stabilize once we get all the statements substantiated. These spam magnet articles are a real challenge, huh? Again, thanks for the recognition! Jokestress 03:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Chemical sources

Hi Ed, thanks for the kind words, and for the diversion of the moment. Yes, indeed, my current worklist still contains 1896 compounds (it is a nice job while slowly adding your electrophile to your solution with the nucleophile ..), and I think I still have missed quite some in setting up my list. Hopefully many of them are redirects. What I do see are many dead-end pages, pages missing chembox-es, pages which are a complete mess .. bit worrying. But well, not in this task.

Bulleting is not hard .. I could just put a bullet in front of the line in the template. I have made a choice in putting an extra empty line before this sentence on every page I put the template (separating it from the links before, makes it stand out a bit), I don't know what effect it has in the pages, and how it will look. But feel free to try, I'll be busy with this (only halfway the addition of my electrophile .. ). By the way, when the ChemicalSources page is running as proposed (i.e. like the Special:Booksources page), the template might be removed from the pages (though .. maybe not). But well, that is a problem for then. See you around. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmm .. it seems to ignore a bullet in the template :-( --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, it was just a time lapse in the WWW. Now I do get the bullet. What do you think of it now? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks good. I prefer it this way. (But it's a minor point, so I won't complain either way.) --Ed (Edgar181) 15:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't mind either. I will keep it this way until someone starts complaining. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Hoodia

The content was removed accidentally and was almost done with putting it back but you were already done with the work. Thanks and Sorry. Digital_laughterz

Your article, P57, was selected for DYK!

On July 13, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article P57, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! ++Lar: t/c 02:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Reverting user page

NP. People have done it for me before; this is the first time I've been able to do it for someone else. You're very welcome. --Guinnog 18:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Congrats!

Hah! This time I'm the first! Beat-the-bureaucrat-to-it congrats to your adminship! ([1]) Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations

Thanks for your excellent work on the project and congratulations on becoming an admin. Use the new tools wisely and re-read the relevant policy and ask questions as neccesary. Have fun, and again, congratulations - Taxman ^Talk 12:01, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

A toast to your marvellous success!

That's not a toast. That's a toast.

Congratulations Ed, you really are an unsung contributor to the project.Blnguyen | rant-line 00:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Couldn't resist. Anybody else feel like breakfast? Femto 11:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

mmmm...toast. --Ed (Edgar181) 11:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hyaline oxide

You also edited the Hyaline oxide, for my point of few, without any source and no literature in ISI nor Google scholar we should do something about it! Is it a miss spelling or nonsence? --Stone 13:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I think we should get rid of it if nobody can proof its existance!--Stone 13:48, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

OK. I sent it to AFD. --Ed (Edgar181) 13:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Vegas7Casino.com

Hi, I see you deleted Vegas7Casino.com as a WP:CSD A7. Unfortunately A7 does not cover companies, so this should not have been speedied. While I agree that was a terrible article and would have been deleted anyway, it should have gone through the prod or AfD process. Just FYI, as I've been burnt on this too. Best, Gwernol 13:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. I've undeleted it and taken it to AFD since it was already prodded/unprodded. --Ed (Edgar181) 14:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Please close Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roy Patrick O'Duggan.

When you speedily deleted Roy Patrick O'Duggan, you overlooked the AFD for that page. Could you please close it as the deleting admin? I am not an administrator, so I am not sure if it is proper for me to close the debate. Thanks. Jesse Viviano 13:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

D'oh! Two rookie-admin mistakes in ten minutes. :) It's taken care of now. --Ed (Edgar181) 14:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

hey edgar, i would like to know why my page on the vengabus was deleted

my fan group has been in the biggest paper in philadelphia and on television numerous times...we get a lot of inquiries as to what our group is all about so i thought wikipedia would be a good place to explain ourselves...thanks, leclair929

The article was listed for speedy deletion by another editor according to the criteria A7, a non-notable group, and then I was the administrator that deleted it. If you are just looking for a good place to explain your group to those interested, there are other (probably much better) options for that than Wikipedia. Based on the content of the article, I agreed that it fell short of the criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia; however, if you can document and provide references for significant media attention, the article may be received differently. Cheers, --Ed (Edgar181) 03:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

we have been featured on: comcast sportsnet, rogers sportsnet, fsn ohio, and espn. we have also had an article written about us in the philadelphia daily news, the largest daily newspaper in philadelphia...is that enough media attention?

I'd suggest taking a look at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations). Although it's not official policy, it might give you a better idea of what type of notability that other editors think is necessary for inclusion in Wikipedia. --Ed (Edgar181) 20:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you so much for voting in my recent RFA. It passed on the relatively narrow vote of 38/8/8. It was also one of the least-participated-in RFA nominations in several months, so pat yourself on the back, and join the party on your left, but first, take your cookie! NOTE: I can't code HTML to save my life. I copied this from Misza13. I guess I should write him a thank you note as well. Cookies sold separately. Batteries not included. Offer not valid with other coupons. May contain peanuts or chicken. Keep out of the reach of small children, may present a choking hazard to children under the age of 3. Do not take with alcohol. This notice has a dark background and therefore may be eaten by a grue at any time. The receiver of this message, hereafter referred to as "Pudding Head" relinquishes all rights and abilities to file a lawsuit or any other litigious activities. RyanGerbil10, Jimbo Wales, and the states of Georgia, North Dakota and Wisconsin are not liable for any lost or stolen items or damage from errant shopping carts.

Thank you so much! RyanGerbil10(The people rejoice!) 04:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Im stressed

Im feeling very stressed right now, is there anything you can do to help me become a better editor. Please reply on my talk page, cheers —Minun ^Spiderman 18:41, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Right, i've been a little stressed because I have been making a lot of stress, the first thing I would like to know is to write an article in a great prose, please help me be able to improve my prose when I write articles, cheers —Minun ^Spiderman 18:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, i'll try it out to see how it works, cheers —Minun ^Spiderman 19:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Medicinal chemistry and drug discovery

I recently noticed one of your edits on the pharmaceutical company article, which led me to your user page. I am very intrigued by your education and career because I currently intend to pursue the same path. If possible, would you be willing to talk to me about the nature of your work and education via chat or e-mail? If so, I would greatly appreciate it. I am currently a sophomore in college. Firewall62 23:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd be happy to. Just email me through the "E-mail this user" link. --Ed (Edgar181) 23:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Block of User:172.188.62.153

Notice you reduce a block on this one as AOL, just thought I'd let you know those 172. addresses aren't AOL proxies so can be blocked for longer without much collateral damage (look at the contrbs of that one for instance, if it were a proxy it'd have more than the handful it does). I tend to block those for 3 hours. --pgk^(talk) 19:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure of the exact basis, but I believe they are essentially the "real" IP of the user so they would stay for that "session" of the given user. --pgk^(talk) 19:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Is this a threat?

You speedied an article, P33N. Someone has left a note on the talk page: Talk:P33N. Fan-1967 13:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. I have now speedied the talk page, and blocked the user that made the silly threats. --Ed (Edgar181) 13:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I must have tagged the page for db the first time around a few weeks back, because it showed up on my watchlist. Fan-1967 13:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Wickethewok's RFA

Thanks for your support on my RFA. The final vote count was (61/9/3), so I am now an administrator. Feel free to let me know how I'm doing at any point in time or if you need anything. Once again, thank you. Wickethewok 15:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

References on antioxidant

Hi Edgar,

Just wanted to say well done for adopting the {{cite science}} template on antioxidant - I had that on my todo list as well. It's great that someone else thinks the template is useful.

Best wishes,

Samsara (talk • contribs) 15:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I think Wikipedia articles on science subjects for which there is a lot of misinformation out there should have the highest standard of references/reliable sources. It's a bit tedious, but sometimes it's nice to have something to do in the mulitple little gaps of time I have between work. Thanks for catching and correcting the missing brackets on one of them, too! --Ed (Edgar181) 15:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

3D images

Hi Ed - sorry for stepping on your toes. I didn't really mean to replace your allene image, just the ones with blue hydrogens really (Chem3D standard colours are strange!), and to provide hi-res images in case anyone wants a cover image for a project or something. I'm just a bit tired, so I'm not concentrating properly! I think your images are great and I think you should definitely continue producing them - you've done quite a few, such as in calixarene, that are of compounds I don't have much experience of, so I'd much prefer to have you making images as well as just me.

Let me know again if I overwrite anything of yours you don't want me to. I'm on a bit of a mission tonight to clear my desktop of all the structures I've been making.

Sorry again for any upset.

Ben 01:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Tank you for deleting that redicolous brief question page. See you around —Minun ^{Spiderman • Review Me} 12:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Rainman

Nice idea. --Dweller 12:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

It seems like a plausible search term for the movie. --Ed (Edgar181) 12:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

User block

I think you were quite lenient on the mischief maker of the Organic Chemistry pages with just a short, temporary block. Even this seem not to have worked, or perhaps not yet, as the mischievous statement was reinstated at 14.46 (removed again by Beetstra) Is WIKI powerless against such people ?

--LouisBB 21:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I blocked one IP address for 24 hours and no more vandalism has occured from that IP since. As soon as it returned from a different IP, I immediately blocked that one too. A longer block on the first IP wouldn't have stopped the second IP. And the vandal hasn't returned since. So I think the vandalism was as effectively controlled as is possible. In general, I think I'm a bit more strict than most adminstrators when it comes to IP vandals - many just give one hour blocks for the first offense. But anytime you see vandalism, feel free to bring it to my attention or to WP:AIV and someone will block. And thanks for your contributions to organic chemistry. --Ed (Edgar181) 22:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

User user:Aardtek

Hi Edgar, I have been reverting links that Aardtek is adding, I saw you did the same. I posted an explanation on Aardtek's page, but there seems to be something strange with the history there, as if things have been blanked (see also user talk:Aardtek1). Could you have a look. Cheers. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:16, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the talk page is a bit strange with at least one warning removed. Plus the page was moved, then moved back. Most of this user's contributions are typical of a linkspammer, consisting mainly of simply adding links to a body building website to various artices. I'll keep an eye out and continue to revert. --Ed (Edgar181) 11:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Cheers. I'll do the same. See you around. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Question

It's cool if you don't think that was a legit move--but tell me, what are the conventions for page-naming chemicals within the Wikipedia? Every other article I've read has had the informal names, so when I saw the isovaleric acid (sorry: 3-methylbutanoic acid) page, it was like hot needles stabbing through my eyeballs.

Just wondering, because if there's a convention, you guys ought to go through every page and make sure they follow it, rather than chipping away at other people's efforts arbitrarily.

In general, chemistry articles are titled with systematic names. Exceptions are made where there is a widely used common name, which probably applies to the articles you tried to move. You can read more at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemicals/Style guidelines. I don't really object to moving/renaming the articles. It just has to be done in the proper manner, which you can read about at Help:Moving a page. Hope this helps. --Ed (Edgar181) 12:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Glyceraldehyde

Please note my comment on the discussion page of glyceraldehyde. [2] --87.122.34.149 11:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I made the necessary correction to the boiling point. --Ed (Edgar181) 12:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Expert needed for an article

I know that your Biochemist but you I thought you might be able to help.

I recently created an article in Biochemistry, Bacterial protein, but I'm not an expert in Biochemistry. I just thought I might be able to research enough to start it and have experts add to later. What I'm not sure about is my list examples of Bacterial protein. So can you look at it and check to make sure I'm correct about the info. in the article.--Scott3 19:47, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a look, but I'm not sure what I'll be able to add (I'm an organic chemist, not a biochemist). My first impression is that the topic is very broad and proteins are better organized by their function rather that by their biological source, so it might be hard to write a coherent article. --Ed (Edgar181) 20:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Organic chemistry images

Hi Edgar. I noticed I inadvertently replaced a number of organic chemistry line structures that you had uploaded, forcing you to revert a number of changes. I just wanted to thank you for leaving the constructive changes I made intact and also to formally apologize for the inconvenience caused to you. Bryn C (^t/_c) 02:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

There's no need to apologize - that's the nature of Wikipedia. Everything you do is subject to editing, replacement, or even deletion by other people. A couple of the images you uploaded were cut off at the bottom, so I restored the older images. In general, when chemical structure images conform to appearances agreed upon (Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Structure drawing workgroup) there's no reason to replace them. --Ed (Edgar181) 11:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Bluebot

Hi Edgar! I have just put a remark on the Bluebot talk-page (and I guess that stopped it from working, no edits since 21:52), since it is making some mistakes in de-stubbing some compound-pages which are in fact still stubs. I saw you reverted (at least) one earlier today, I have reverted another 3 or 4. I thought I'd let you know. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 21:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I think Bluebot is doing a good job. Each article that it removed a stub notice from didn't look like a stub to me, except for one. I can see how something like a big, but empty, infobox could fool it though. --Ed (Edgar181) 22:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I do agree, there are many, many articles marked as stubs, which are actually not stubs. And I am happy too he does the jobs. But I found a couple of mistakes, which warranted me asking him to have a look at that. Martin told me that he now added a bit of code to Bluebot, it is now ignoring tables, and so doing a true word-count in the body of the article (see here). That should remove false positives. Thanks, see you around! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 22:31, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Trinitrotoluene

In the article for Trinitrotoluene, I removed the entry for Thickness from the data table, thinking it was a spurious and mistaken duplication of Density -- same units, same value to the precision given. You restored it. So, what in the world is thickness, in chemistry? Grouchy Chris 14:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea how I ended up restoring the "thickness" when I added a new image. It wasn't intentional. I agree with you that it doesn't belong, and have removed it again. My bet is that it got carried over in a mis-translation of "density" from a foreign language wiki or something like that. Thanks for catching the problem both times. --Ed (Edgar181) 22:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, cool, thanks. I thought it was some odd mistranslation too, but when you restored it, since I am no expert on chemistry, I thought it must mean something obscure. Grouchy Chris 23:37, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Thx

I usually avoid needless talk and assume an implied "thank you" literally goes without saying. But thanks for cleaning my toilet anyway. =) Femto 11:13, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. Let me know if you have any other plumbing problems. --Ed (Edgar181) 15:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Categories

Hi Ed, I just finished the find/replace script in AWB, I have run some test-runs now .. Is this about what it should do (there will always be errors, everything has to be checked by hand, but I have not touched these 5 now, is all automatic):

1. 3,3',5,5'-tetramethylbenzidine.
2. Cis-3-hexen-1-ol.
3. N,N'-Di-2-butyl-1,4-phenylenediamine.
4. Op-DDT. (it is meant to leave the Op- alone)
5. S-Allyl cysteine.

What do you think?

The only thing I really would like to catch now, are some old tables on some pages (see if these can be automatically changed into a new chembox or something similar, see e.g. 1,1,1-Trichloroethane, in Opera the header-lines go through the chembox on the page), after that I may start a run again (is going to be a lot, almost 3000 compounds). Any other things to do are welcome, of course. See you around! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 21:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the "Di" in your third example should be considered part of the name with only "N,N'-" being the prefix, just as if it were something like dimethylamine, but I'm not 100% certain. Perhaps that something to bring up on the Chemicals wikiproject. But otherwise, looks good. Thanks for doing this! --Ed (Edgar181) 00:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

You might be right .. I need an Aldrich catalogue. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 06:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Aluminium

Hi Ed, you have any idea how to resolve the current edit-war on aluminium. User:Pfahlstrom resists on having a {{reference needed}}, while some other editors think that the issue is clear enough (I would not even know where to find a reference). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Pfahlstrom is now coming with references, I hope that resolves it. Cheers anyway. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I just added a ref to the article. You guys can decide if it is sufficient or not. --Ed (Edgar181) 14:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Please see the talk page. Thanks. —pfahlstrom 14:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Eyes For Windows (Angela's Eyes)

Would you mind grabbing the content of Eyes For Windows (Angela's Eyes), which you deleted, and sticking it in my sandbox User:Thatcher131/Sandbox1, or adding it to the episode summary table at Angela's Eyes? Thanks. Thatcher131 (talk) 17:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

• Never mind, the editor is adding them herself. Thanks. Thatcher131 (talk) 17:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Keyra Augustina

You recently deleted Keyra Augustina with justification "CSD A7", non-notability. The page, though once deleted, was undeleted in January due to new notability. The consensus was unanimous then, and there has been no change since then. Please reconsider or undo your deletion. Tesseran 08:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

It still looks like a non-notable bio to me, but I won't argue with consensus.  :) It's now undeleted. --Ed (Edgar181) 15:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - Dibromopropane

Hi

Thanks for catching my error about the number of structural isomers! Dumb rookie mistake... --Rifleman 82 17:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for your great contributions to chemistry articles. --Ed (Edgar181) 20:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Please salt Ed Masi

You recently deleted the recreated article Ed Masi, which was originally deleted after a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ed Masi. Please salt Ed Masi. -- TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 20:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, done. --Ed (Edgar181) 09:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Shishman

Hi, actually the street is totally NN in my opinion, there are possibly hundreds that share the name in Bulgaria, and it's not special in any way. The medieval dynasty, of which Ivan Shishman is only one representative, is supposed to occupy the Shishman name, and since there's still no article about it, then the name's should be left free. That's why I nominated the redirect for speedy deletion.

As for Shishman Street (which isn't even paved LOL :), it should be nominated for deletion as absolutely non-notable. Regards, Todor→Bozhinov 19:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, sounds good. Go ahead and nominate it for deletion. Then when it's deleted, the disambiguation page can become a redirect to Ivan Shishman. --Ed (Edgar181) 23:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Why should it redirect to Ivan Shishman, he's only one representative of this dynasty. There are others like Michael Shishman and many of the late Bulgarian rulers. I'll dominate it, but redirecting Shishman to Ivan Shishman is a bad decision even if it's going to be temporary. Todor→Bozhinov 15:01, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

If there is more than one notable Shishman, it should be a disambig page. --Ed (Edgar181) 15:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

It's a dynasty of Shishmans... it shouldn't be a disambig, but an article about the dynasty after all. All the emperors of the dynasty are notable and have articles, it's just that one would expect the dynasty at Shishman, not a disambiguation page. An article about the dynasty would naturally, list all these emperors, but there isn't one for now, unfortunately. Todor→Bozhinov 16:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like you might be the ideal person to create such an article.  :) --Ed (Edgar181) 23:37, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of vandalism

I see you put an end to the problems from User:Hanseh, and for that I'm grateful. Here he managed to turn a very straightforward AfD into an unholy mess. I take consolation in knowing he wasted more time on it than I did. Anyway, so far, we've voted 10-1 to delete his nonsense article (with him being the 1), with many leaning toward protecting the page from re-creation. My Alt Account 15:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

'bot restubbings

Thanks for the thanks, and for being understanding about the errors. I'd "previewed" the categories that were going to be restubbed before running the bot on each, and they seemed OK, but my own ignorance about chemistry doubtless comes into play. Looks like the main culprits were a number of Category:Alkenes that I had restubbed as as hydrocarbons, and Category:Fatty acids as ester-stubs. Are the permcats accurate in the first instance? I thought that alkenes were by definition hydrocarbons: is this category being applied to non-HCs with alkene bonds? Likewise, fatty acids are categorised as lipids, which are in turns esters... is there a "Chinese whispers" effect at work in the category system, as is often the case? Alai 19:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Chemical classifications are just a bit more muddled than you realized, I guess. The categories were correct in each case. Any chemical with a carbon-carbon double bond can be classified as an alkene, but it's only a hydrocarbon if it contains only carbon and hydrogen. So methacrolein for example can be classified as an alkene, but not as a hydrocarbon. The other problem arose because not all lipids are esters. Many are simple carboxylic acids or ethers. Hope this helps.

In all, I think the bot restubbings were a success. Organic-compound-stubs was bloated (and maybe still is) and the amount of work to fix the relatively few bot errors is small compared to the amount of work it would have been to hand-sort each one. Thanks again! --Ed (Edgar181) 19:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I suppose it all depends if one regards category membership as proper inclusion (as I'd prefer to), or as some weaker sort of relatedness/similarity. Thanks for clearing up the fatty acids/lipids/esters thing, the articles are a little misleading on that. Alkenes I'm still especially befuddled on, though, as in several places its baldly stated that "alkenes are hydrocarbons". Is the situations is more complex than that, it'd be a boon to those of us that haven't studied this since secondary school for the article-space to reflect that. BTW, as far as WSS's "to-do list" is concerned, the organic compounds are not longer on the "urgently oversized" list (while another 80-odd categories and 25,000+ articles are...), but if remember (or am reminded) after the next database dump, I can re-run the category analysis to see if any further sub-types look to be viable. At any rate, you're welcome, and thanks again for fixing the errors. Alai 01:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot

Hi, Edgar!

Checking my watchlist I noticed that someone had vandalized my user page, but you reverted it. I just wanted to tell you thanks for removing the spam from that vandal IP. Have a nice day! --Esteban F. ^(contribs) 22:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Ed (Edgar181) 11:31, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Osamu Adachi Revert

Thank you for reverting the changes made by Liamsparents! I really appreciate your help! Another page that often gets vandalised is the Hugh Jackman page. You should take a look at the history, because it often gets vandalized by IPs. There have been vandalism about his death and pornography "trivia" added in by the IPs and it's getting quite annoying, all the other users can do is revert and keep on reverting. Anyways, thank you again for noticing the vandalism on the Osamu Adachi page!

Vera26 09:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll put Hugh Jackman on my watchlist and revert/block as necessary. --Ed (Edgar181) 11:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!! -- Vera26 01:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

your images

Hi, your images are quite good. Could you please upload them to Wikimedia Commons so that other Wikipedias and Wikimedia projects could use them, too? --32X 19:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

OK. It may take awhile, though. If there are specific ones that you are interested in, please let me know. --Ed (Edgar181) 12:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. It would be nice to have the DMAPP graphic a bit earlier. ;) --32X 21:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've moved the DMAPP image, as well as a couple of other terpene-related compounds [3]. I'll get to more later. Hope this helps. --Ed (Edgar181) 15:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On 17 September, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article halomon, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks!

For your quick response to vandalism problems with User:216.11.5.251. Johnbrownsbody 13:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. And thanks for fighting the vandalism. --Ed (Edgar181) 13:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Parabens

Hi Edgar, The parabens page seems to be more like a battleground with too many people denying the science behind some of the comments. I am fed up of someone who keeps putting in the trade names Nipagin and Nipasol (I used to work for Nipa, but it's not me doing it!) - and they are wrong anyway as it should be Nipagin M and Nipasol M. Keep up the good work in monitoring the page. Dene45

I'm afraid I added it back in once. I thought the names were chemicals synonyms and not trade names. Thanks for informing me and thanks for your contributions to the article. --Ed (Edgar181) 11:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought it was someone trying to be commercial! Hopefully, people will leave the page alone until there is new (and accurate) information to add. Thanks for your supporting comments on my previous changes - the precautionary principle was extremely annoying! Dene45

Deletion Query: Justin Edwards

Hello.

You're clearly a responsible and thorough contributor to Wikipedia, but on this occasion I must question the wisdom of a deletion you've made:

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I assume the implication was that the page was self-promotion. As I recall, this was not the case. Justin Edwards is becoming a fairly important contributor to British radio and TV comedy, so it's odd that he no longer has a presence on Wikipedia, simply because you considered another Justin Edwards more worthy of inclusion. Would disambiguation have been a better option? Any help you can offer in re-instating this page would be gratefully recieved.

Ned-kogar 13:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I was the one that deleted Justin Edwards, but the comment in the summary was content added by another contributor. I deleted the article after someone nominated it for speedy deletion using the justification you read. Unfortunately, both the other editor and I didn't realize that it was a vandalized version of the article which contained no content worth keeping. I have undeleted the article and restored it to the way it existed before it was damaged by vandalism. Thanks for the catching my error! --Ed (Edgar181) 13:31, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding reversions[5] made on September 29 2006 to Parabens

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. Glen 20:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Just got your message. I see you are a good user, and I havent read your edits other than to check for 3RR above (specifically the subsection headings). Have a read of the IPs edits and engage him to find a happy median if you can. Thanks again for the note, Glen 20:46, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I have read the IPs and attempted to engage him! All he's done in response is to accuse me of vandalism in many places and insults in his edit summaries. I've tried to be reasonable, I've tried to engage, I've remained civil, I've follwed wikipedia rules and all I've gotten is "SCREW YOU ED!" from him and a mistaken {{3rr}} from you. AAARRGGGG. I'm taking a break. --Ed (Edgar181) 20:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I see what you are talking about. These are different users (in fact one the 63.. is American the other 85... from the UK!) The screw you edit was the UK user. 63.17.32.188 and 63.17.67.27 are the same editor and you'll see he has been nothing but perfectly civil throughout and seems like I nice guy. I would recommend a note to him, he'd be delighted to hear from you. Glen 21:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Just to clarfy the above is a 3RR warning as you are now on three reverts, if you had done four you'd be blocked and I'd have used {{3RR5}}. It is the exact correct usage of the template, to warn users of an impending block if they continue - hope that clarifies. I will take a look, but certainly dont let others petty problems affect you. Glen 21:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

One last thing is I thought I'd let you know that I blocked that IP immediately for directing that edit at you. Hope that helps bring a smile at least! :) Glen 21:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Glen S, clearly you did not look at the edits that I made. I only made ONE revert. And it was only a partial revert. And I gave a full explanation for it on the article's talk page. Please be a little more careful before hitting an experienced user with a boilerplate warning. But thanks much for blocking the IP (which I'm certain was the same user). --Ed (Edgar181) 18:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Block challenge

Please see User talk:85.227.10.132. I have not unblocked, you might like to shorten it. Guy 08:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. That IP has been involved in an ongoing pattern of vandalism that may not be obvious at first glance becuase it also comes from other IPs; consequently, I don't think it's a good idea to shorten or unblock. --Ed (Edgar181) 18:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Edits to Paraben

Hi Ed, I have done a huge cleanup on paraben, completely reorganised the article (and removed duplicate info). Hope it is to everybodies satisfaction (63.... seems to be quite happy with the state it is in, now). It could use some more info, especially about the chemistry &c. Hope to see you back soon! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 23:19, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for dealing with it! --Ed (Edgar181) 18:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)