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Long time no see

Its been ages. --— Realist2 (Come Speak To Me) 21:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry been busy with school and homework.Thought I left?:)--Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 21:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also consider me on wikibreak. I've got a report to do for science and will be unable to get many edits in.Sorry.:(Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 21:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah no problem, come back when your ready/finished, pop in now and again to say hi though. --— Realist2 (Come Speak To Me) 21:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see you back albeit only for a second :) ——Ryan | t • c 21:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm here still. Maybe a few hours. I'll say through email probably but here too.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 21:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Huggle

Yeah, sorry. I went to revert and then I clicked SHIFT-T("warn user for test edits) and you got the revert. Oh, well. J.delanoygabsadds 01:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Check it [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leila&diff=217440340&oldid=217440018 out.:) A job resume on wikipedia!!!:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would you care to explain...

...this? I have temporarily removed Huggle access from the account; however, leaving it (and you) unblocked at all is pushing WP:AGF to the extreme limits. Can you give me any reason to think this isn't another of your sockpuppets? — iridescent 01:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it stated as a alternate account?Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know he stated that as an account to use on public computers here. Useight (talk) 01:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All right; so you've used a secondary account to circumvent your ban on Huggle use, which (as you know) has been documented ad nauseam, and which you've promised not to use. Can you give me any excuse for this? — iridescent 01:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What's ad nauseam?Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please block and add retire templates to userpage and talkpage.Bye!!!:)I'll send hi's via email once in a while.Inform R2 and tell him/her im sorry.:)Happy editing!!!I'm on wiki-vacation!!!Permenantly!:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"This has been discussed extensively and everyone is tired of it". Which I think everyone involved would agree is the case. I am really disappointed at you for this. — iridescent 01:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please block and add retire templates to userpage and talkpage.Bye!!!:)I'll send hi's via email once in a while.Inform R2 and tell him/her im sorry.:)Happy editing!!!I'm on wiki-vacation!!!Permenantly!:)(Unless you can persuade me otherwise.I'm done.School is just too much work these days. Asta la vista amigos!(I hope I spelled that right.:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to block you at the moment (although I can't say what Metros will do) as I'm not convinced you warrant it, and we have a long-standing policy of not blocking users just because they ask for it. Whatever it might look like, I've not been trying to run you off the project, just to stop you using a particular tool inappropriately. — iridescent 01:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Iri I have absolutely nothing against you.If anything you should be a crat by now.:)Have fun without me.:)Oh final request:What does your name mean?Or orign of it?Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Xp I have a feeling your doing this because you,ve had enough of wikipedia and you WANT to be blocked. I know its been hard recently but dont do this to yourself. — Realist2 (Come Speak To Me) 02:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ANI notice

Hello, Xp54321. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion here regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. — iridescent 02:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Calm down R2 im fine.bye!!!Tell R5 and kodster!Dont forget retire template!:)Cheers!Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bye buddy, email me some time.!! — Realist2 (Come Speak To Me) 02:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sure no prob!!!:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I aint gone yet!!!!:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Added.Sorry forgot.:D DoneXp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, email me when you want the template applied, Xp, i will miss you. — Realist2 (Come Speak To Me) 02:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Me too.(I mean miss you,:))Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody thinks about you but R2, R5, Kodster, and Iridescent? What about me? Useight (talk) 02:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption

OK, basically, adoption works like this: You ask questions, I give answers :P
If you want, I can also give you some hypothetical scenarios to test your knowledge. To be honest, I've never really done this formally before, and I don't know how involved you want to get. If it is easier for you, we can just keep the conversation on this page, so that you know immediately if I have answered your question. Or, I can create a subpage for all our stuff and you can watchlist it to see if I've answered your question. Just lemme know what you think. J.delanoygabsadds 02:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Subpage, hypo-scenarios, i love tests:)!!!!!Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, add User:Xp54321/adoption to your watchlist. I'll look through your contribs and come up with some questions to ask. If you have any to ask me, feel free. Also, you don't have to post on my talk page when you answer questions/ask questions on this page or the /adoption one. I've watchlisted both, so I will see when you add to either of them. J.delanoygabsadds 02:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Done good luck!!<evil laugh>:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hope you dont mind me calling you "J",just like R2,R5,(lol,star wars), and U8, and Kod.LOLXp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, as long as you don't mind me calling you XP :P (I realize I'm asking more of you than you are of me, because XP is the name of a piece of software created by Microsoft *shudder* . But I hope you'll be willing to understand that I am not in any way linking you to that corporation or any of its products. ;) ) J.delanoygabsadds 04:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uhh, BTW, you are allowed to edit Wikipedia. Try fighting vandalism just using Special:Recentchanges and the templates on WP:UTM. That will help you to better understand what constitutes vandalism. J.delanoygabsadds 21:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry school.;)I edited in the early morning before school(like 540am to 620am.)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 21:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, It's just I'm out of school here, so I forget that not everyone is. heh heh. J.delanoygabsadds 22:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Uh hum.Questions for adoption???;)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Im best at np patrol.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 23:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nicknames

All right due to the fact that I hate typing a lot other editor will have get used to me shortening their names.

  • Realist2 = R2
  • RyRy5 = R5
  • Kodster = K
  • J. Delanoy = J
  • Iridescent = Iri
  • Malinaccier = MAR
  • Metros = M
  • Useight = U8
  • Gwen Gale = GG
  • Daniel = D
  • Excirial = E
  • Xp54321 = l33t(nah, Xp;))
  • Mr. Xp = MXP
  • Wisdom89 = W89
  • Gary King = GK
  • BlueGoblin7 = BG7
  • Gwynand = T-Bone
  • Got it? Good. Don't forget it. Also, I forget anybody?Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also in addition I would like to give a BIG BIG THANK YOU to Iri for setting a total world record for agf,demonstrating restraint, attempting to talk before taking action, and being an exlempary admin.You're a total role model.:DXp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can I be "T-Bone"? Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 22:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Um who are you?lol:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry, let me introduce myself. The name's T-Bone. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 22:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Um... okay have I met you before?;)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:21, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually (being serious now), yeah, I've edited your talk before. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 22:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
When was that?Cause this "list is just sorta fyi, i know you heres ur name shortened form".:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I was just kidding around. I may have posted amisdt drama in the past. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 22:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add you but I don't think you've even visited this page before.Maybe.;)And <clearing throat> drama?Please provide diff.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WHAT!!! Im ONLY number 2 on your list? :-) — Realist2 (Come Speak To Me) 22:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy?And it's not numbered just a listXp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 23:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah :-) — Realist2 (Come Speak To Me) 23:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do have a doppleganger account, Us8, so that's pretty close to your nickname for me. Useight (talk) 23:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That okay?Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 23:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's perfectly legitimate, see WP:DG. Useight (talk) 00:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I meant the nickname I read that policy months ago.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 00:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, I was just saying that your nickname for me "U8" was close to the name of my doppelganger account, "Us8". Just mentioning the coincidence. I noticed you changed it from U8 to U8T, I like U8 better. Useight (talk) 00:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 DoneXp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 00:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We've talked multiple times, so you might as well add me to the list :). Come up with any nickname you care to use, Malinaccier (talk) 23:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Coaching

Yep. There are some guidelines on the coaching page which is located at WP:ADCO. Happy editing, Malinaccier (talk) 23:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I need help

I dont understand why my page keeps on getting deleted I do everything the messages tell me but they still get deleted

Program 11 (talk) 00:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at User talk:Program 11. -- RyRy5 (talk) 00:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Guernica editions

Hi, I declined your speedy WP:CSD#A1 on this article because I felt there was sufficient information to identify the subject of the article. CIreland (talk) 02:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kay, I understand and trust your judgement.Cheers!Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 03:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

My page got deleted? Help? Explanation? What can I do to fix it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by KTRZ4 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was pure vandalism.There's nothing you can do about it except continue editing making good constructive edits.I'm not an admin I just placed the equivalent of "heads up this page should be deleted" on that page.An admin deleted it.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 03:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thank you. My appologies =) --krizea (talk) 03:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome.:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 03:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature

Is too long. Please reduce the code to conform with our signature guidelines. Thanks. Rjd0060 (talk) 03:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 DoneMy last edit for the night.Good night!Xp54321 03:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

new pages

SLOW DOWN!!!! You are not required to review every new page and mark it as patrolled! Try doing some vandal-fighting on Special:Recentchanges instead. I'm writing something else to you now, but you need to calm down, take a deep breath, and exhale slowly. Just take it easy, you don't have to do everything yourself. It will be fine. J.delanoygabsadds 03:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay thanks I stopped a few min ago.And who said I was hyperventilating?!;)<rapid deep breaths>Oh and is the above editor correct?My sig is too long?Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 03:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry. The above editor is correct. - Rjd0060 (talk) 03:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Um...which above?Also please talk to User:Realist2, he/she designed my sig I don't know a thing about wiki markup and would have know idea how to change it.Thanks.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 03:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can tell Realist2. You change it the same way you changed it the fist time though, in your preferences. - Rjd0060 (talk) 03:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Be careful with your A1 CSD criteria. Some of your tagging has been suggesting lack of context when the subject was easily identifiable. Wisdom89 (T / C) 03:38, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Got it I'm off for the night anyways.J just gave me that warning and more.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 03:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My advice would be to completely remove the custom signature from your preferences, and just use the default one. Then, as you learn more about Wiki markup, you can design your own. Also, you don't have to get off, just slow down. I really think you should try to write some. That takes a little more effort, but it is, IMO, far more rewarding. Also, do you know how to vandal-patrol with Recentchanges? That is something else you can do that would be easier to do than patrolling new pages. J.delanoygabsadds 03:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To remove your custom signature, just go to your preferences page and uncheck the box labeled "Raw Signature". Then delete everything from the text box labeled "Signature", and click on the Save button. J.delanoygabsadds 03:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

where to start...

Ok.

  • What in the world could I have possibly taught you? By asking you questions, I asked myself the same ones, and I had never thought about them before.
  • How did I help you understand yourself? Pretty much the same thing as above.
  • What about the rest of the basics? There isn't much. Read some of the links in WP:INTRO. Other than that, I would suggest trying to write some articles and/or participate in discussion about pages. You are trying to move way to fast. I know you are incredibly enthusiastic, but you need to moderate yourself. Fighting vandalism all the time is not a good thing. Find some articles about something you enjoy, and see if you can improve them. (but remember to obey WP:CITE)
  • Please define iffy. Stuff like these.
    • [1] By definition, all settlements are notable, so you can't tag them for speedy deletion no matter how short they are.
    • Almost all of your db-nocontext tags are very disturbing. Db-nocontext should be used only when there is no feasible way to identify the subject in a meaningful way. An example of a page which could be properly tagged as db-nocontext would be a page named "Cody Johnson" that has the content "Cody is a dog". You should re-read WP:CSD slowly and really think hard about what it means. And remember it is better to not a page at all than to tag a page incorrectly. My suggestion is, if you have any question at all, just move on and ignore the page.
  • I do believe the essay editcountis does say there is no "applause" for reaching a certain number of edits. Yeah, I know. But sometimes it's hard for me to remember that.
  • For question number 5 I quoted "What Wikipedia Is NOT....". How was that answer soooo "awesome"? Well, I never connected those two pages like that before. I guess it just struck me. Sorry.
  • Okay if I know the basics, teach the advanced stuff.(all that fancy code,creating templates,creating userpage designs, you might want to get other tutors,E and R5 know about userpages) WHOA!!! Slow down, man! I said you understand most of the basic ideas behind Wikipedia, but now you need you need to gain experience with the actual implementing of these ideas. Unfortunately, the only practical way to gain experience here is through trying things. I will do my best to guide you, but you will most likely make many, many mistakes as you forge ahead. One thing you need to do is slow down, and don't go into everything full steam ahead throwing caution to the wind.

My advice to you is, SLOW DOWN, man!!! You are not required to learn everything overnight, just take it slow and try to branch out. You should definitely try to write some. Find something you are interested in and see if you can fix and/or improve the articles. You should read WP:DEADLINE and some of the pages in that page's see also section.

Also, I appreciate you giving me all those barnstars, and I really don't want to say this, but doing that is, well, kind of strange. Barnstar should be given when you think an editor has made a particularly good contribution on a specific area. You should probably not give more than one barnstar to the same person in a short interval. You may also want to read WP:BSI, paying particular attention to the part about Barnstaritis B.

J.delanoygabsadds 03:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Patrol

Although it's true that we really really need people to help out on newpage patrol, you really don't need to patrol the stuff by people who are whitelisted. What would be more helpful would be patrolling the far end of the queue; articles only stay in the unpatrolled queue for 720 hours, and sometimes I'm the only person working the far end. DS (talk) 03:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please read this: Your improper use 'Speedy Delete' tags

Hello, I want to add a bit more about your use of 'Speedy Delete' tags, e.g. ({{db-bio}}, {{Db-a1}} (context) etc. This has got to stop. Please hold off putting them on articles that have literally just been written, especially in subject areas with which you are unfamiliar.

Observe your record today and these are just some of the articles you tagged. You were tagging one article every minute, and most of them within 1 minute of their creation:

Atlanta Rowing Club, Slow Burn (Atreyu song) , Alien invasion (game), Mal de pelea, Nottoway, Va , Vladimir Matovic, Gariné Torossian, Humberto Bonfante O'Byrne. Most of these have been rescued from your thoughtless tagging by other editors.

Who knows how many of the others that you've tagged and have already been deleted could have been saved!

Slapping on a 'speedy delete' as soon as the first version of the article is published, is not helpful, can be very discouraging to new editors, and means that Wikipedia loses a potentially useful article, especially if an admin is not paying attention when they go through the day's collection of 'speedy deletes' (it happens, trust me.)

Many new articles look very unpromising at first, take a lot of work to get right, need to have references found, etc. They need time, and they need the collaboration of more than one editor. For example, take a look at Aureliano in Palmira now and compare it to this rather dire beginning [2] a month earlier. Look at Folke Jonsson now and compare it to its initial version [3] only four days earlier.

Wikipedia will not self-destruct if an article of doubtful notability stays up for a few days. It's much better to tag a new article like that with {{notability}}, but only if you have serious doubts about its notability judged by a careful reading of the article and your own attempts to find evidence of notability. Return a week later and if nothing has happened, consider adding Prod instead.

I'm asking for cooperation in this. You are a very inexperienced editor and should completely stop tagging articles for 'Speedy Delete' until you are thoroughly familiar with Wikipedia's policies, and until you are willing to slow down and take a thoughtful approach to tagging, i. e. put in some real work. It's not a contest or a game. What you are doing can have serious consequences both for new editors writing articles and for Wikipedia in general.

In fact, I would suggest you stay completely away from patrolling new articles. Put the effort into creating and referencing an article yourself so you'll understand the issues involved, instead of thoughtlessly destroying the potentially valuable work of others. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 05:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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