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I prefer to reply to comments on the page they were left, so if I left a comment on your page, reply there it is on my watch list. If you leave a comment here, watch this page until the discussion is done as I will only leave replies here. Comments which I find to be uncivil, full of vulgarities, an attempt flame baiting, or that are are excessively rude may be deleted without response. Comments from harassing editors or wikistalkers will also be summarily removed without response. If I choose not to answer, that's my right, don't keep putting it back. I'll just delete and get annoyed at you.

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Could you possibly take a look..?

Hello Collectionian.

I'm currently waiting, patiently, for feedback on my article Prehistoric medicine so that I can improve it to a GA-status article, but it's a very, very long time coming. I was wondering whether you might be able to have a look at it for me and provide some, even breif, suggestions of your own. You seemed very friendly and professional, when you messaged me some time ago, and so you were the first person I thought of. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 21:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll try to take a look at it later this evening. :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 21:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Some things I immediately noticed. The article is violating some basics of the Wikipedia MoS, such as having the refs inside the punctuation. For example, "[2]." should be ".[2]." It also steps out of the article with parenthetical "see alsos" and "see below", which are a big no-no. The first image should be in the top right corner rather than moved down. The lead doesn't seem to meet WP:LEAD, being relatively short with two referenced items seeming to indicate they are not summarizations of the article. Some of the sectioning seems excessive. If the larger section only has two paragraphs, they really don't need individual headers. You may also want to check WP:MOSHEAD, as some of the headers seem to go against the grain. The references need some consistent formatting, per Wikipedia:Citing sources. I personally find the citation templates, such as {{cite web}} and {{cite book}} useful for this purpose, but you can also manually format them. For a GA run, I'd first recommend making the MoS fixes noted above, having the article peer reviewed, and have it thoroughly copyedited. There are also quite a few statements in the article still needing in-line references before it could pass GA. I hope this helps some. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 02:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Collectonian for reviewing the article. I've made most of the changes you mention and will continue to make more, but, and I know it probably doesn't comply with something in the basics, I don't think that the first image should be moved to the top-right, purely for aesthetic reasons.
I have some things to add (I didn't even realise the {{cite book}}: Empty citation (help) thing!), the article will hopefully become a GA-article, eventually! Again, thank you so much for taking the time to have a look at the article. I'd be happy to return the favour anyime so, if you need me, don't hesitate to ask. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 09:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No problem :) I kinda agree on the image, but I thought I should mention it since it recently came up as an issue on a list I'm prepping for FLC. The image is beside the menu (takes up the otherwise big white space), but someone said it had to be at the top. So it might come up when you go to do a GA or FA run. :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 15:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I'll readjust it if it becomes a big issue. But it seems like no-one is going to make an issue of it, because no-one ever seems to be reassessing or reviewing it.. Is everything always this slow on Wikipedia? Anyway, it's not your problem and you've done quite enough already, thanks again. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 20:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whoa!

Stop removing my information on BLEACH the title information is true. I'm not posting a fan site to be posting a fan site I am posting that site because it's where the information can be found. --Neoonyxalchemist (talk) 15:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, the title information is not true. It is a fan guess, not verified factual information. Fansites are not reliable sources, nor is it appropriate to link to sites that distribute illegal content. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 15:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Lyric

You deleted my edit changing Lyric to McMurphy. I had my TV on mute when his name came up and it said LYRIC.Meerkatxoxo (talk) 16:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What was actually said, though? Did they say Lyric, or did only the captions say Lyric? -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 18:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

About Greek Uncovered

If the page is to be redirected to Greek (TV series), then shouldn't it make some mention of the "spinoff" or whatever it is? I've got no opinion on the overall outcome here, I just know it's really iritating to be redirected to an article that doesn't tell you why you were redirected there. Cheers. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 18:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Working on it :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 18:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 18:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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No problem, and thanks....mmm...chocolate -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 18:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
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Peer Review Request

Hello. I am the primary contributor to the article Last of the Summer Wine and am attempting to get it up to FA. I saw your name on the list of peer review volunteers and was wondering if you would be interested in taking a look through the article to see if you can spot anything for us to change. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Cheers! Redfarmer (talk) 19:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy reminder

Hello, AnmaFinotera ... I added the "redundant" courtesy message to Wikipedia:Proposed deletion (edit | [[Talk:Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) because of this conversation with Some Other Editor ... I won't revert your revert, but I do wish that you'd reconsider restoring it ... you reverted while I was adding this message on the Discussion page. :-)

Happy Editing! — 151.200.237.53 (talk · contribs) 20:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As it is a policy page, it would be better to discuss a rewording on the talk page first. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 20:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I've tried to "ask first", and my experience is that there's not a whole lot of discussion beforehand ... since WP:BOLD is based on that wonderful adage by RDML Grace Hopper,

It is easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission.

I just went ahead and added it with the "Consider adding as a courtesy" message ... I figure that it doesn't hurt to repeat "as a courtesy" for the users who tend to "skip/skim-read" and might not catch it the first time. :-)
OTOH, some users are (by their continuously disruptive behavior) unworthy of such courtesy, which is why it must be optional, rather than required. — 151.200.237.53 (talk) 01:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Neoonyxalchemist

Hi Collectionian. Thanks for the message on my talk page. I was aware that tagging User:Neoonyxalchemist's page with the {{sockpuppet}} tag didn't open an SSP or RFCU case. Some instances of sockpuppetry are clear enough that further investigation isn't required. In my judgment this was such a case. Best, Gwernol 21:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

True, but without a case, neither can be blocked and it seems obvious he is using it abusively. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Je fini

I have blocked User:SeriesYFilmes indefinitely. You're right, their grammar, editing style etc. is incredibly similiar. Thanks for the message, friend. Take care. ScarianCall me Pat! 09:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No prob and thanks. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 13:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The lead in Case Closed

In my opinion the lead paragraph I added, and you removed just a while ago was mostly mentioned in the article, at least the movie ones. I would actually source them later when I go back home-- so keep those there.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 16:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please just wait to add it until you can actually source it. Only the statement about the movies is supported by the article. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 16:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Quick thought about media list redirect

List of Excel Saga media should probably redirect to List of Excel Saga chapters, since the manga was the original medium and is on-going. (I came to this conclusion by parallelism to the WP:MOS-AM's injunction to focus on the original medium in the main article. :)--Monocrat (talk) 03:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm...that is a good point. I was moving it back to List of Excel Saga episodes because that was the lists' original name, and its original focus. The manga information was added over a year later. :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 03:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
This is off-topic. but I really can't dedicate any more time to Wikipedia this week. I have an admissions test Saturday that I need to prepare. I'll be back, though.--Monocrat (talk) 04:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excel Saga chapters

I can start adding all right references to the page once you take the notice down. I don't want to get in the way of your work. Grapeofdeath (talk) 04:38, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm working on it now. I'll remove the notice when I'm done for the evening. If you're reading the series, when I'm done, can you add a summary for the newest volume, and maybe fix up volume 1 and 2s summaries? -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 04:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I can try to fix up the first two, but crafting summaries isn't something I'm very good at. The plot in the series has gone crazy and I don't know if I'd be able to describe the latest volumes very well. I have started transliterating the Japanese titles and plan to add those in eventually. Grapeofdeath (talk) 04:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No prob :) Hmmm...I can't seem to find any reliable sources for its starting its serialization in 1996 (and ANN has the year wrong). Blech. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 05:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Don't know if it passes WP:RS, but here's the Amazon-Japan page for the first volume. Shonen Gahosha's site lacks that detail, surprisingly, thought they provide the ISBN.
I meant its first appearance in Young King Ours. And yeah, Shonen Gahosha's site is not very useful. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 05:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
All the release dates for the Japanese books are from the ISBN pages of the books themselves. What I'd have to do is reference that actual book itself. You've already done what I was going to do for the English editions. Grapeofdeath (talk) 05:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I know. Amazon.co.jp can be used to source the release dates. The books themselves are the sources for the ISBNs (so no reference needed). But in the lead, it also discusses the original serialization. That's what I can't find a source for. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 05:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
The release dates in the back of the book are different from the ones on Amazon.co.jp. This is true for many series, such as Blood+ and Claymore. I'd rather use the books as the source for the dates as the farther you go back, the more inconsistent Amazon tends to be. I'll also be posting the information on volume 20 soon. I'm picking it up tomorrow. By the way, the line that says '125 chapters have been published in the magazine' seems incorrect since that is the number of chapters from the magazine that have been published the the first 19 volumes. I haven't been keeping track of the unpublished chapters like other pages do. Grapeofdeath (talk) 06:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Ah, so they put the release dates on the back of the books in Japan? Cool. For the chapters, I figured it was short some, but there is no list of the unpublished chapters, so I just went for the count available. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 06:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I've added the unpublished chapters to the bottom of the page, but now I'm left with a dilemma. The last mission in volume 19 is MISSION 131 in the actual magazine. Even if I add the four bonus missions, I come up two short. (Mission 5 and 5.5 in volume 14 were originally together in the magazine.) Perhaps the Professor Side Stories were originally two chapters? I'll have to look through the notes in the english volumes to try and figure this one out. If there's no good answer, do you think I should just leave these numbers out? Grapeofdeath (talk) 06:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'd go with what the mission number is in the actual magazine. The side stories in volumes usually aren't included in the chapter count, unless they are numbered as such in the original serialization. Out of curiosity, do the original volumes retain the original mission numbers, or are they numbered like they appear to be in the English ones, with the numbers starting over for each volume (so its 1-5, 1-6, etc)-- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 06:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
It only shows 1-5 or 1-6 in the English and Japanese books. Same happens with Berserk. A chapter was actually taken out of the book format, so if you've keeping track of the numbers they're one off. But since all the original scans are still on the internet, it was easy to find out which one. Unfortunately I think I'd really only get to the bottom of this if I had all the actual magazines these were in or at least the original scans. Grapeofdeath (talk) 18:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Exciting new template

Template:Shueisha done by the same well intentioned man behind the Jump Square page. It is the worst thing I have ever seen. I feel so sorry for him. He must have worked so hard on it...I can't figure out how to channel his energies to things that would actually benefit Wikipedia. Doceirias (talk) 20:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've been trying on the Jump Square, but he doesn't seem to be getting the hints I give :( I put the TfD up for deletion...words escaped me on its pure hideousness. Doesn't seem to be useful, though if its kept, it needs to be rolled back to the earlier version that didn't have inappropriate non-free images, etc. *sigh* -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 20:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I understood what you were trying to say, I just got overwhelmed because I put hours of work into it. It should be deleted... I'm just really imbarrased. I always get trashed on the internet. – 「ＪＵＭＰＧＵＲＵ」@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 21:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, we were talking about the Jump Square article too. I think you have a lot of enthusiasm, and you obviously enjoy editing. It does take awhile to learn, we all made embarrassing edits earlier (I still shudder to look at the first article I made LOL). Just gotta learn from them, and keep practicing (and don't be afraid to ask for help if you aren't sure about something) :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 23:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a ton.... that's the way I feel about Super Jump. I have had nightmares about that page.... eeek! – 「ＪＵＭＰＧＵＲＵ」@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 23:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apology

I'd like to apologize for snapping at you (twice now). I think you have some good suggestions and I appreciate your contributions. I don't see any reason to make enemies online; I overreacted. --Kraftlos (talk) 12:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem :) ~virtual handshake~ -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 14:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Sopranos FLRC

Hi. I've been asked to close this FLRC, but am reluctant to make a mess of my first one! Would you mind returning to the discussion and giving your to-this-minute feelings on this particular FL? --Dweller (talk) 12:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 14:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. --Dweller (talk) 15:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Award

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
As I said before, people have always trashed me on the internet. I am depressed easily, no one ever respects that. As for you, you are something different, you are one of the nicest people I have ever met. Also you're helping me on the Jump SQ. page, everyone usually ignores me. I think that deserves an award, great job. : ) – 「ＪＵＭＰＧＵＲＵ」@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One Piece articles

I'm currently working on the list for all the One Piece characters, but it's pretty slow going. I have it laid out in a way I think works well, now it's only a matter of condensing the character information and adding it. The number of characters makes it a chore though, so it'll be some time before it's ready. I'm only letting you know because you seem to be the driving force behind merging all of the articles, and I want to make sure you know someone is working on it. In the meantime, it'd be really helpful if you didn't merge or AfD any of the articles, because having to redo all of the work finding the references and character summaries would make this even more painful. Thanks. Ark (talk) 01:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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