Talk:Jan de Hartog
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Books Section
The book title areas should probably include a date after the titles, and/or rearranged into some sort of order, and the order system identified. I added "The Sailing Ship" which he did with Peter Spier as an illustrated children's book in 1964 (1st edition), but not knowing what order was being followed, I added it directly beneath the book he did with Peter Spier's father. If this was incorrectly postioned, please let me know what order to follow (and perhaps indicate the order at the top of the section). I say this because obviously someone took the time to start entering those items, and I don't want to step on toes if they had an order in-mind.
Also, perhaps his plays should be included, and the section could be retitled as "works"? Or perhaps a new section for plays created?
Feedback on these items would be appreciated, I'll check back later. -Michael S. 72.186.211.238 (talk) 02:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Here's what an updated list would look like, in Chronological Order according to the "least conflicting dates I could find":
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Please let me know if this list change is not wanted. I will leave it here for a little while, so as not to disrupt whomever has been working on this article.
-- Michael S. Deadguy71 (talk) 16:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC) (updated this section with more ISBN numbers and cleaned-up ISBN numbers) Deadguy71 (talk) 18:00, 8 July 2008 (UTC) (removed movie references due to new "alternate media" section added to article. I will add this list to the page after 7-14-08.. thereby giving a week for feedback. Is anyone else working on this? --M.Scott M.Scott (talk) 15:49, 11 July 2008 (UTC)(updated to reflect new main page layout)M.Scott (talk) 22:09, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Topics for addition and expansion
- Early Houston: I want to include the events leading up to "The Hospital" and add a little more of the positive results that came from that book. Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- War Orphans: I'd like more information and sources regarding the prelude to how he and his wife were involved with the Korean War Orphans prior to the adoption of his daughters. If I can document and source the events enough to tie his involvement to it, I want to include the story he used to tell about the "Sick hospital" Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- More Pictures.. I'm trying to get the article up to a more stable state before getting Jan de Hartog's widow involved, but I'm sure she'll have a great picture I can use. I've seen some great ones that even include him as a "sea mouse" and suchlike that I hope she'll allow me to use. Failing that, I know I can get others from Christmas gatherings and suchlike, though they wouldn't be as nice. Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- Dowsing: I want to expand upon his involvement with Dowsing. He taught me how to dowse properly. I actually ran into someone that had "heard of him" because of his dowsing, so perhaps his involvement is more documentable than I suspect. Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- More Awards: He's always downplayed the award thing, but awards serve a purpose in calling attention towards someone who, for one reason or another, deserves that attention. I think it's inspiring, and useful to try and document everything we can find. If nothing else, I have pictures of his "Key to the City of Clearwater", though I doubt it'll be easy to get a history on it. He was even knighted, yet I can't find anything official on it.Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- in 1966 he was awarded the "Edmond Hustinxprijs voor toneelschrijvers" which translates from Dutch into the "Edmond Hustinx for playwrights." He was the first to be awarded this. ( I'm looking for references other than ( The dutch version of his wikipedia page) or ( Dutch wikipedia page for the award) M.Scott (talk) 23:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- in 1900 he was awarded the "Jacobson-prijs" which translates from Dutch into the "Jacobson Prize". The Jacobson prize is a five-year Dutch literary prize awarded to older literature. (Again.. looking for a better reference than the Dutch wikipedia page for the awardM.Scott (talk) 23:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Concern regarding accuracy
Part of the problem with Jan de Hartog's history is that bits and pieces of it are the result of his storytelling, as opposed to what actually occurred. With (I beleive) the only exception being The Hospital his stories have fiction intertwined with the reality. This includes stories about the author's own life.
Wikipedia's official stance is that if it's referenced and cited from a secondary perspective, from a reliable source, it is eligible for inclusion in a Wikipedia article. The TRUTH or accuracy is not to be determined independant of the secondary sources.--M. Scott Deadguy71 (talk) 12:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
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