Talk:Nico

Production Credits

The Marble Index wasn't produced by John Cale, it was Frazier Mohawk. John Cale did the arrangements for the album. I have edited the section to display the correct information. - Corey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.35.226.191 (talk • contribs) 01:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Someone should also, somehow, mention that she banged most of New York in the late sixties. But, you know, in a nice way. - C.J. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.234.251 (talk • contribs) at 00:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Birth date/place

This article claims the following:

"The date and location of Nico's birth are disputed. Most sources state October 16, 1938, Cologne, Germany. However, at least two other sources have put her birth date at March 15, 1943, in Budapest, Hungary."

What are all of these sources? Do we have any links or bibliographies to verify them?--Pac 00:27, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

That picture from 1994 looks pretty good, considering that she died in 1988. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.43.48.131 (talk) 15:42, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

It puts her birth as Budapest, march 15th 1943 in the liner notes to The Marble Index. The notes are written by a Richard Williams. i did a wiki search and this seems to be the most likely person Richard_Williams_(journalist) He is a music journalist and it mentions velvet underground in the article.

Something else that is contradictory to the wiki article, from the same liner notes, is the origin of the name Nico. It says that she took her name from a boyfriend, Nico Papadakis, rather than as described in the wiki article: 'While on a modelling assignment in Ibiza, she met the photographer Tobias, who christened her "Nico" after his ex-boyfriend, filmmaker Nico Papatakis.'

Im just saying that these liner notes are a source of the contradicting information, though i dont know how accurate any of it is Vivisquallcloud 18:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation

How do you pronounce her name? Like knee-co or nye-co or nick-o? Maybe the answer should be put in the article, because I cant figure out which one it is — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.138.32 (talk • contribs) at 18:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I've always presumed it was pronounced 'knee-co'. It just seems the most obvious pronounciation.

SteveRamone 09:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

These Days

For the last *censored* time, it wasn't a Jackson Browne COVER. Nico's recording was its first release. Indeed, Browne wrote it but FOR her. His version was released some years later on his sophomore album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.178.227 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC) [1]

The main photo is too big

it is very intrusive, and takes over most of the window. is there no way of resizing it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macca7174 (talk • contribs) at 12:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Years Active

The 'Years Active' part on the infobox says til 2002. How could she have been active still if she is no longer alive >_< is there a good reason for the changes? surely it should say til 1988. Also, i wondered if it should start at 1965, to include her 'I'm Not Saying' single. - Vivisquallcloud 10:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Why has this link been deleted?

Am perplexed as to why the link to the most comprehensive and best maintained Nico site on the internet http://smironne.free.fr/NICO/ has been deleted while the link to a trite cartoon and autobiographical quotes from the artist who drew it has been kept http://prettyfakes.com/?p=220. I've always found the links section one of the best features of Wikipeida. When they're links to significant sites directly relevant to the subject of the article they can save a lot of time sorting through internet vanity press for further information. I'll be bold and restore the link which I think should stay unless someone has a legimate reason for its removal. tobalwin 15:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I got rid of both per WP:EL. --John 20:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

She fairly liked her relationships with rock stars.

"Nico had a short-lived romantic relationship with the Velvet Underground's main singer and songwriter, Lou Reed, at this time, one of her several romances with prominent musicians including fellow Velvet John Cale, The Doors' icon Jim Morrison, Jackson Browne, Rolling Stones' founder Brian Jones, Tim Buckley and The Stooges' Iggy Pop." (all of whom were at least 3 years younger than her, sometimes up to 10 years younger, interestingly enough)

I wonder how much of this information can be attributed? I'd believe the Lou Reed/John Cale ones as I'm sure I've read about them elsewhere, but the rest?--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 19:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The book "Nico: Life and Lies of an Icon" by Richard Witts [Virgin books 1993 234 pages] is currently the most reliable reference source for Nico info. http://www.witts.me.uk/index.html Witts book sources as much as he can but the sixites were not a good time for fixed relationships or definite statements on such. However all the involvements mentioned appear to be confirmed by other people who were around at the time. Index references in Witts book; Jim Morrison 40+ ,Jackson Browne 12, Brian Jones 30+, Iggy Pop 5, Tim Buckley 2 tobalwin 08:16, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Her encounter with Jim Morrison is described in his biography, "No One Here Gets Out Alive." The documentary "Nico Icon" has footage of Nico onstage referring to Morrison as her "soul brother." This concern about her romantic relationships seems a little sexist and bourgeous, anyway. MarbleIndex01 15:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Jim Morrison

I beleive Nico worked with Jim Morrison on one of her albums. 'The End' I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.134.237.62 (talk) 10:05, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Nico had a relationship with Morrison, but I don't think she ever really worked with him musically. At least not on any of her albums. As for The End, that album is dedicated to Morrison, who had overdosed 3 years earlier. - Face 17:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

More on heroin addiction?

In the mid-to-latter stages of her life, heroin took over her life completely and perhaps there should be more on that. Saying that she was a heroin addict is like saying the Cookie monster was somewhat fond of cookies. SteveRamone 09:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Racism

What about her penchant for being racist? I have heard in some places that she was very bigoted and even stabbed a black woman at one point for looking at her wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.168.137.34 (talk • contribs) at 16:27, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I have found an article that may refer to the incident mentioned above. It appears she smashed a wine glass and stabbed a mixed-race singer in the face with it. The Guardian - [User:BalthCat] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.81.216 (talk) 02:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Racism section - potentially dubious. Additional verification is required...

I have removed the following text from the article:

In an interview with Mary Harron for New Wave Rock, Nico explained why she was dropped from Island Records."I made a mistake. I said in Melody Maker to some interviewer that I didn't like Negroes. That's all. They took it personally . . . although it's a whole different race. I mean, Bob Marley doesn't resemble a negro, does he? . . . He's an archetype of Jamaican . . . but with features like white people. I don't like the features. They're so much like animals . . . it's cannibalism, no?"

The source given appears to be a biography of Joe Strummer. Could someone who owns this book please take a look through and confirm that the above controversial statement attributed to Nico is actually quoted there in the correct context and if possible provide a page reference? Thanks. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 00:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

No, the book is called "Rip It Up: The Black Experience in Rock 'N' Roll", and it's about dark-skinned people in the rock scene. Amazon says that it features "original interviews with Slash from Guns N' Roses, Little Richard, Lenny Kravitz, and others". Perhaps the person who added the section can scan the page containing the quote? Even if Nico said that however, I don't think a seperate section would be appropriate.
On a related note, someone who I think uses a 87.160.*.* range keeps re-adding the section, in a very poor way. See the contributions of 87.160.216.31 and 87.160.204.121. Cheers, Face 14:57, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I added the quote and will check the Joe Strummer biography. However, I don't see why it doens't deserve it's own section. It's a serious charge that may change the way people view Nico. Additionaly, the quote I found comes from a credible publication. The possibilty of Nico being racist is substantiated by The Guardian article mentioned above. That source comes from [Danny Fields]] I'm adding this back on as I don't see how this qoute could be interpreted differently in any context.