Talk:Annie Lennox

Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 21:10, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Image

Note that this image is on the speedy delete list as it has no source. If anyone has one that is free it should be replaced or it will have to be deleted. Justinc 23:16, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

well it got deleted. I saw here a few years back and if I do again I will take a picture. But someone else could too. Justinc 23:35, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I can't post pics as I'm not a wikipedian, but this is a great picture of Annie and I'm fairly certain it's public domain. (I found it on a message board). [1]

It has no information about the source, so it is probably not public domain. Justinc 12:21, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Not the ideal image, but the post seems kind of "nude" without any: I've added the image of the Eurythmics article. Rotring 23:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Added a new image, hope it's legal 'n' all. Vihrea 06:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Walking on Broken Glass

Was Walking on Broken Glass based on a Bad Company song called Holy Water? Holy Water contains the lyrics "Feels like I'm walking on sacred ground." Captain Jackson 00:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Category:Gay icons

In order for this person to remain in Category:Gay icons, the article needs to mention this "fact" in the body and cite reliable sources to support it. Lennox's androgyny alone doesn't make her a "gay icon". I'm sure she has many gay fans, just as she has black fans, and female fans. But, those don't make her a "black icon" or a "feminist icon". Some notable source should specifally say she is a gay icon. --Rob 17:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

She was featured in the "Big Gay Following" section of The Advocate (Issue Number 954), does that count? 67.84.3.92 22:15, 5 August 2006

Sales

Worldwide sales 8x P? What is that supposed to mean? Since when was someone authorized to give platinum records for worldwide sales?

Also, I find those figures a bit overstated. I might be wrong here, but I find it hard to believe that Lennox was/is clearly more successful than Eurythmics.

• In the UK, Diva certainly sold twice as many copies than any Eurythmics studio album (but not the 1991 "Greatest Hits" collection), but her solo career would not have outsold Eurythmics altogether though. Sadly, I cant find any figures for Lennox's global album sales so I've removed the category from the discography altogether as it was misleading by just adding the UK and US sales together and considering it as a worldwide total (she sells in far more countries than just those two). According to the US Arista website, global sales of Diva and Medusa together have topped 12 million. Diva would have been the bigger of the two, and I would estimate it to account for at least 7 million copies sold worldwide, but again I cant seem to find any certified statistics except for the UK and US. The certified UK total for Diva is 1.2 million copies, and the US certified total at 2 million, plus any copies sold since its last certifications). Can anybody else help with verifiable worldwide totals?

MassassiUK 18:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Name

Can we get a source on her full name being 'Griselda Ann Lennox'? I've seen this 'fact' floating around the web, but never with a credible source attached. It should be verified or deleted. 67.84.3.92 22:27, 5 August 2006

All right, I haven't been able to verify it. Removing all references to 'Griselda.' --Aeonian 19:19, 6 August 2006

I see the 'Griselda' name keeps being added back. Correct me if I am wrong but none of her biographers have ever quoted her middle name as being ‘Griselda’. Is this not just a myth? If not where is the proof that this is actually her name? 22 March 2007

This is false. I have seen her personally at the place where I work, and her full name (at least in her passport) is "Ann Lennox". 87.218.78.113 12:51, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Gifted School

Unless she also went to school somewhere else, I know that Annie Lennox went to my school in Aberdeen. It was an all-girl school at the time but it was not for the exceptionally gifted. My mum went there too!

It was Aberdeen High School for Girls, correct? There's a radio or print interview in which it's referred to as a school for the gifted, and Annie disagrees, then agrees when the interviewer points out that an admissions test was required. I'll see if I can find it. ----Aeonian 21:35, 6 August 2006

Right, it was The High School for Girls, now known as Harlaw Academy. Was that interview on Amercan radio? The reason I ask is that an admissions test was required (my mum passed it) but this was not linked to musical ability. It was simply the 11 plus, which all children had to sit after primary school at the time. If the child passed, they were accepted to go to a grammar school, (although not a specific school, they would have had a choice) and if they failed, they went to a comprehensive. I suppose an foreign interviewer might not have known this. Therefore, it was certainly not considered a specialist school, although perhaps an above average one.----User:Discosebastian 13th August 2006

I really can't remember. It may have been French radio, actually, now that I think about it. In any case, I think it's better if we remove the "school for the gifted" bit for now--even if I can find the interview, I'm pretty sure she says something like, "Well, you can call it that, I guess..." which is not much of a verification. ----Aeonian 13:37, 17 August 2006

Correction to the 11-plus bit above: if a child passed the exam they could go to grammar school as stated; if they failed they would go to a Secondary Modern school. Comprehensive Schools came about later and the 11 plus was abolished with all children going to one school. --86.21.227.90 (talk) 21:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Lede

The lede currently states: "often lauded as 'the greatest white soul singer of all time'." By whom? Can whoever added this cite a review or two? --Aeonian 21:33, 6 August 2006

Waldorf School?

Which Primary School(s) did Annie attend? Was it the Aberdeen Waldorf School? If so, then she would have studied the movement form Eurythmy there as part of the curriculum.--Design 03:30, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

The website for the Aberdeen Waldorf School says it was founded in 1977. Which Primary school did Annie attend?--Design 03:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Title of Annie's new album in 2007

Despite reports in the press that her new Album will be called ‘Venus’, Annie herself on her website news page dated 8th of January states that ‘it won’t be called Venus’. Does anyone know what the title will be? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.140.102.203 (talk) 00:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Vocal range

A claim was added that Annie Lennox has a 4 octave range. As no cite was included, I deleted it. I have documented the 4 octave range of Happy Rhodes. As wide a range as Lennox has, it is not as wide as that of Rhodes, who is sometimes mis-identified as a duet between Annie Lennox and Kate Bush. If someone would like to suggest two songs that represent Lennox's highest and lowest notes, I'd be glad to confirm the range. K8 fan 04:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

There's four octaves in "There Must Be An Angel (Playing With My Heart)". The operatic voice backing the chorus, second occurance of the chorus, during the last line (7th & 8th time the main vocal sings "must be talking to an angel"). Track times 2:29 to 2:37 (roughly).--150.101.146.56 (talk) 14:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Generally, I've seen a three octave range claimed for her. Sweet Dreams Are Made of This and Here Comes the Rain Again both seem to support this, not that I'm any expert. Crypticfirefly (talk) 06:17, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

What about the final vocal notes on Little Bird? Track time 4:13 on the album version.

Worldwide Sales

I've already mentioned this on the Eurythmics discussion page but it's relevant here as well. The Eurythmics Wiki article currently says that Eurythmics have sold over 75 million records worldwide. I can well believe this and I'm sure I've seen it reiterated in various articles from reliable sources. However, Lennox's Wiki page states she has sold 80 million with Eurythmics and as a solo artist combined. However, Lennox has sold at least 15 - 20 million records by herself, which would make it well over the 90 million mark as a whole. Does anybody know which is right? 79.66.46.232 (talk) 21:41, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Honours

I am puzzled that she hasnt been rewarded with a MBE. Has she, and did she reject that honour? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.54.168.3 (talk) 22:09, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

In an television interview on UK Channel 4 in September 2007, she was asked if she would accept such a title and she said no as it wasn't really for her.79.66.11.44 (talk) 23:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Early Life

I had heard from someone from Aberdeen, Scotland that Annie Lennox's father is Robert Lennox, Lord Provost of the City of Aberdeen from 1967 to 1970, and again from 1975 to 1977. I can not find any evidence of this online.Xtophr (talk) 05:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

scottish not brittish

shes scottish not brittish. James blunt english not brittish dont find it fair that she should be called brittish when the english and welsh singers are refferded to there language--78.148.82.42 (talk) 23:20, 3 October 2008 (UTC)