Talk:Charlie Weis

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Notre Dame bias

Honestly, much of this article is very unencyclopedic, especially in terms of choice of what to focus on. A great example is the most recent paragraph on weis' norte dame bio. It only focuses on notre dame "outstanding" defense. If someone is going to focus on their outstading defense, what about their "horrific" offense, of their "horrific defense against their loss to USC? I don't think that should be in their but the article should be written fairly, especially since it details all of weis' sucesses in past years, lets list the statistics for this horrible season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.143.233.253 (talk) 05:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Initial stub page

This article is a copy of the official bio from the Patriots' web site. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tewdrig (talk • contribs) 00:52, February 15, 2005 (UTC)

Total Re-work Needed

Someone needs to get on this and rework the entire article. As it stands now, this is just a cut-and-paste job from the Notre Dame Athletics site. The article also contains captions to pictures that were presumably in the article from which the text was copied (Ex. "Charlie Weis walks into the Joyce Center late Sunday night after being named football coach at Notre Dame," but there is no such picture in this article). Anyone with the time should think about a rewrite to get this article up to Wiki quality. Brian Brockmeyer 21:31, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I agree that this article is not up to par: Too many problems, like how it starts out by identifying Weis as the current head coach of Notre Dame, but a few sentences later says he's the current offensive coordinator for New England. I'll try and work on this one myself. Flavius Aetius 20:08, 1 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What the Heck?

How could Weis be the Patriots receivers ooach and develop Terry Glenn in 1996 while also serving as receivers coach for the Jets in 1996? Contradictory stuff like that needs to be fixed.

I'm also a little uncomfortable with the way Weis is given credit for "developing" just about every notable offensive player on every team he's ever been on. 74.68.117.112 (talk) 22:57, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the majority of the assertions that he "developed" players and the inferences that he was responsible for certain players' success. We simply can't make these kinds of claims, unless citations can be found from reliable sources giving him such credit. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 04:43, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mustain

I'm hesitant on whether a story of about a 17 year old's indecision belongs in the Charlie Weis article. I'm voting for nuking the Mitch Mustain blurb. KelleyCook 14:43, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BCS bid

This is pretty lazy writing... ND gets the 14 million this year (2005-6), but in all future years ND will only get 4 million dollars each year, regardless of if they go to a BCS game or not. Whether this is a cheap shot at ND/Weis, or just bad writing, it needs to be fixed. -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.127.128.2 (talk • contribs) 17:26, January 22, 2006 (UTC).

Although, I agree with deleting the paragraph, you are incorrect. Begining in 2006, ND will get $4.5 million if they go to a BCS bowl, but only 1 million if they do not.[1] KelleyCook 16:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why I've reverted Terry Eurick mention

I don't see how or why the fact that Charlie Weis, who didn't play football, happened to room with Terry Eurick, a football player during Weis' college days at Notre Dame, is relevant to an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Weis never coached Eurick in the NFL (Eurick was a Notre Dame star but never, as far as I can tell, played in the NFL). Now, if Eurick had played some key role in getting Weis to accept the Notre Dame coaching job, or even got Weis to be interested in football for the first time, or something like that, that'd be relevant to the article (which should then contain this fact as well). But as far as I can tell their rooming together is the beginning and end of the Weis-Eurick connection.

I'm sure there's some article someplace where Weis talks about how many Notre Dame games he attended as an undergrad, or how many Notre Dame-logo articles of clothing he owned as a student, or how cold the stadium seats felt when watching games in November in Indiana. Should we also mention these "facts"?Yeechang Lee 15:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only reason is is there is because people keep adding that Weis and Joe Montana were roomates, but that is not true so I switched it to Eurick, his actual roommate. The Montana thing has been added again under "Personal life" and so I once again changed it to Eurick. If you think it doesn't belong in at all feel free to remove it. --MrCalifornia 22:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The part about the students singing the alma mater, and how it supposedly originated with Weis, needs to be edited. It implies that he is the person who started the tradition. I don't know the facts. If he is, then it should be clarified. If it happened to occur while he was there, which is my suspicion, then it should probably be removed as irrelevant.

In response to above: I don't really do any editing on Wikipedia, but I'm a Notre Dame fan and I thought I should clarify that it was Weis who started the tradition of having the players sing the alma mater along with the students (who have always sang the alma mater with the rest of the fans in the stadium for as long as I can recall).134.53.111.41 23:51, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Slap Investigation

I deleted the two sentences referring to the slap incident at the MSU game. As far as I can tell there's no investigation, and no one has proven evidence otherwise.TND2006 21:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an article mentioning it [2], but I'm deleting the most recent version of the episode. It seems one-sided, and, IMO, this isn't really notworthy for an encyclopedia article about Weis. This is just this week's news, and probably being inserted by an IP located around MSU? :) --ZimZalaBim (talk) 22:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

early life

There is no mention of his high school or college days. It doesn't even tell where he attended college and anything about his playing days. --rogerd (talk) 11:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page needs an update

This page needs to be updated. The season is now over, and by all and I mean all, this was a bad one for the Irish. So please, people, let's try and work together to put soemthing up there. I know Zimzalaba or whatever is guarding the page, but it is funny because he isn't trying to actually update the page. So, instead of protecting out of date information, lets summarize the season that has passed.

All you need to do is provide citations from reliable sources, and avoid your own biased perspective. Thanks. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 19:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In response to your query, I approve of the changes Zimzalabim. But I would like to see mention of the largest point spread ever against a USC team, and it would be perfect.