User talk:Etnier
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Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:48, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
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Draft
I saw the draft from the link on your userpage and it looks reasonably neutral to me. Things to avoid are "greatest artist ever" unless you can quote a reliable source that calls him that (or anything else - see WP:PEACOCK and WP:NPOV.
It would also help if you used inline citations. This is fairly easy to do - basically you just add a ref tag and put the material in it like this: <ref>Smith, John. ''Big Book of Famous Artists'', Some Publisher, 1999, pp 45-56.</ref></ref>. Then you put this after the sentence(s) it needs to back up, and put {{reflist}} at the bottom in a References section, so
Sentence needing a ref.[1]
References
- ^ Smith, John. Big Book of Famous Artists, Some Publisher, 1999, pp 45-56.
You can also get fancy and use {{cite book}} and {{cite journal}} for magazines. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 16:33, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I would keep the extra references and use them if possible. On Wikipeida notability is established by multiple refs to different reliable sources, so sourcing eveything to one ref would be bad (make the subject appear less notable).
- I prefer conversations on Wikipedia talk pages (not email) as they make things more transparent. Please don't forget to sign your posts with four ~ and it is generally a good idea to add new posts to the bottom of tal pages (not the top). Clicking on the new section tab does this automatically. You can also continue discussion in a section (like I am here).
- Finally model articles are always good for ideas and examples to follow - our best work is Featured articles (FA) and El Greco is an FA on an artist that may be a good model. Henry Moore is a FA too. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I combined two refs using the ref name = "blah" trick. You can do the same for the others. I think the name of his third ship is wrong - there does not appear to have been a ship ever named "USS General Omar Bradley" - see List of United States Navy ships: G-H. There was a USS General Omar Bundy which is from the right era and ocean. COuld this be it instead? Tourmaline existed, but is a red link (no article yet). I would also go back and add the wikilink to the bio when it is moved to mainspace (instead of the external link to his official webpage). Ruhrfisch ><>°° 19:30, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I first saw your edit to the article List of people from York, Pennsylvania, where you added him as "Stephen M. Etnier" (external link to the official website). Once the article is in main space, it should be linked as a wikilink, Stephen M. Etnier. I was looking to add wikilinks to the draft, which is how I found the ship error. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:26, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- You are very welcome - hopefully you'll like the place and write or add to more articles, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I first saw your edit to the article List of people from York, Pennsylvania, where you added him as "Stephen M. Etnier" (external link to the official website). Once the article is in main space, it should be linked as a wikilink, Stephen M. Etnier. I was looking to add wikilinks to the draft, which is how I found the ship error. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:26, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I combined two refs using the ref name = "blah" trick. You can do the same for the others. I think the name of his third ship is wrong - there does not appear to have been a ship ever named "USS General Omar Bradley" - see List of United States Navy ships: G-H. There was a USS General Omar Bundy which is from the right era and ocean. COuld this be it instead? Tourmaline existed, but is a red link (no article yet). I would also go back and add the wikilink to the bio when it is moved to mainspace (instead of the external link to his official webpage). Ruhrfisch ><>°° 19:30, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
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DYK
Your welcome! Always willing to help out. I also wanted to let know that I nominated your article to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. --D.B.talk•contribs 03:53, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Images
The images of the piantings are very nice - it might be useful to add their dates to the captions. It is possible someone may question the copyright status, if so you may need to go through the Wikipedia:OTRS system, but that is a bridge to cross only if needed. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Stephen Etnier
Dravecky (talk) 22:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 05:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
I left you some feedback on WP:FEED#John Etnier per your request. Sorry it is so late. I haven't been giving feedback as often lately (school and whatnot), and there aren't many editors that consistently watch that page. If you enjoyed getting the feedback, you should consider answering somebody else's request on that page! :) Killiondude (talk) 07:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Mizpah
Could you give me one example of something you want added as an inline ref and I will do it and then you can see and ask questions if it is not clear? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks!
At the end of "Final Years" there are two hyperlinks. They also appear as last two items in the reference section.
Perhaps I put them in OK, but it doesn't seem right to me. Seems like the hyperlinks at the end of "Final Years" should just be numbers pointing to the References section?