Talk:Candidiasis

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Hey is it more common to get these in the summer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.59.249 (talk) 02:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

In the treatment it first says to eat yogurt and then later says to avoid dairy products. ????

I see no reason to believe that yogurt either taken orally or applied directly would have any effect on candidal vulvovaginitis. First, yogurt as it is most popularly used, is pasteurized, meaning the bacteria has been killed back. Second, orally consumed lactobacillus will be killed off by stomach acid, and if any makes it to the intestinal tract, it still must transit into the vagina in order to ferment the glucose there and acidify the local environment. It cannot pass directly without causing peritonitis or septicemia, and if one is able to exit the anus, transit the perineum and enter the vagina, it will be a very unlucky bug that does. When that single bacterium gets there, it will find the vagina is already colonized by Lactobacilli adapted to the vaginal environment, not to cow's milk, and it will drop dead of starvation because it cannot compete with its biovars. I think yogurt has come into practice for several reasons. First, the understanding of anatomy and physiology in the general population is about zero, and the thought that yogurt eaten means the internal structures come into contact with it because the yogurt got inside would make sense to someone who doesn't understand epithelium and what that does: partition and separate internal organs. Second it does seem that Lactobacillus colonizes the vagina and does play a role in suppressing candidal overgrowth, but that does not mean that vaginal bacteria are used in making yogurt. When the two bugs are equated it ignores that they come from very different habitats. Any mention of yogurt as a treatment for candidal vulvovaginitis is misleading unless the author can come up with some peer reviewed references that support his stance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eukaryotica (talk • contribs) 00:44, 23 November 2006.

I think you wrongly assume that everyone who has a problem with yeast has a vagina. Nodekeeper 06:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed...after an embarassing mishap with a bottle of hairgel and bottle of KY on a dark night, both me and my girlfriend contracted yeast infections. Yes, males can get them, this article mentions nothing about it. Dewdude 21:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Doubly agreed - having had a week in hospital with no showers (due to a severed digital nerve) followed by a course of antibiotics, I managed to contract thrush in an inopportune place. Diagnosed today. Exam tomorrow. I've already missed 2 exams from the hospital visit. *groan* 194.247.230.168 21:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Boric acid (which lowers the vaginal pH) and bicarbonate of soda (which raises it) are obviously at odds. I have never met a doctor who will recommend the later, and many who recommend the former. Baking soda will make yeast infections worse. There have been several small clinical trials that suggest that boric acid is a useful treatment; I can only access abstracts, but here are some citations:

van Slyke KK, Michel VP, Rein MF. Treatment of vulvovaginal candidiasis with boric acid powder. Am J Obstet Gynecol. 1981;141:145–148.

Jovanovic R, Congema E, Nguyen HT. Antifungal agents vs. boric acid for treating chronic mycotic vulvovaginitis. J Reprod Med. 1991;36:593–597.

Sobel JD, Chaim W, Nagappan V, Leaman D. [[1]]Treatment of vaginitis caused by Candida glabrata: use of topical boric acid and flucytosine. </a> Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2003;189(5):1297-1300.

So no, I wouldn't say pharmaceuticals are the only "proven" form of relief. --Not a user yet

The powerful antifungals given by doctors or purchased over-the-counter can cause resistance fairly quickly within a person if they are used every single time a person has a yeast infection. This article is all about the pharmaceuticals, touting them as the only reliable form of relief - they're not, sometimes they make things worse in the long run. Count your facts carefully.

Pharmaceuticals are the only proven form of relief. That is on the basis of the facts as they stand as of 11/25/2005. DocJohnny 03:45, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

The "home treatment" seems kind of dodgy to me. The official govn't site has nothing on these "home remedies." The tag should stay or the text on home treatment should go, unless someone can find a VALID source for the treatments. There's plenty of websites that boast drinking a special kind of water or eliminating a certain type of food will cure cancer. --Crucible Guardian 03:50, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The home remedies mentioned are accepted treatments, although in many cases yield results only in minor infections. I wouldn't argue that the factual accuracy of those treatments are invalid as they are well and truly common knowledge, but a stress should be put on the fact that most home remedies offer assistance only in minor cases. I will ammend the article shortly to reflect this.

Jachin 04:37, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"Common knowledge" or not, there is no evidence that any of these home remedies does anything. A lot of falsehoods were once common knowledge.DocJohnny 03:48, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Since oral candidiasis can be a harbinger of a more serious underlying condition (e.g. the transition of HIV to full-blown AIDS,) I think the home remedies should probably follow medical diagnosis and treatment.--Rossd 05:26, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

I have added 2 commercial sites in the External Links section. These sites have many photos of candida infection and they both have recent references to medical papers. For those reasons I feel they contribute information. --Lion Sept 26 2005

I feel said pages are just too commercial. Comments like "it helped me and I guarantee it will help you too. Order now!" in red all over the page are not a sign of seriousness. I remove these links, according to Wikipedia-link policy "only the best" --82.172.68.233 10:50, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I disagree in part with 82.172.68.233. One of the web sites removed is the only web site, in external links, which has current references to medical papers. None of the other listed sites have references. For this reason I feel it is a usefull external link.

Fixed a broken external link to http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/vaginitis.htm -- Lion Oct 16 2005

Dr Andrew73 is in error. Ketoconazole is currently used extensively in his country {nizoral} and around the world. Look at http://www.nlm.nih.gov/portals/healthcare.html ketoconazole, over 5000 current references. In other parts of the world ketoconazole is a relatively inexpensive treatment and is widely used in Central America, South America and parts of Europe. The deletion a web site because it contains "testimonials" is not valid. The very basis and history of medicine is the personal accounting of ones health under treatment. Testimonials stand as valid information. The web site should remain. --User:DrDave Oct 17 2005

I am mistaken and DrDave is correct with the ketoconazole, though it's used mainly in the topical form, at least in the U.S., rather than orally. In terms of the testimonial issue, the viewpoints of other users above support my viewpoint that Wikipedia may not necessarily be the best venue. Andrew73 17:52, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Added history and taxonomic classification. --User:DrDave Oct 23 2005

Parasitic diseases?

I've noticed that Candidiasis was categorized as a parasite, similar to republicans...I'm not sure if this is necessarily accurate, since I tend to think of parasites as more complicated, multicellular organisms like hookworms, etc. In any event, I did restore the infectious disease category since if anything else, the infectious disease category more accurately reflects candidiasis than the parasite category. Andrew73 23:30, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, for all intents and purposes even a single celled organism could be classified as having a parasitic existance. It could also be argued as a symbiotic one, considering microflaura and fauna of the human body act as regulators and defence against other kinds of bacteria in various ways. I'm neutral on the topic, it could be argued each way successfully however. Jachin 00:57, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Treatment paragraph:

I, in a silly, disorganized way tried to edit the first section of the treatment paragraph. I editted it because it expresses an opinion rather than giving a balanced view of facts. Prescription vs. over-the-counter vs. DIY remedies for yeast infections are currently in debate in the medical community. All sides have medical research backing up their claims. The article should be worded to reflect that. So, I'm changing it back (not vandalizing it).

Similar to Republicans... LOL! Still, it is true that the pharmaceutical industry, FDA, FTC, and a disturbingly large percentage of Congress's membership are preying upon the general public by violating feedom of health care, trying to destroy alternative medicine at every turn to prevent the populace from maintaining homeostasis, thus ensuring that people will become sick, and that the pharmacuetical industry can charge them exorbitant prices to treat them using "conventional" methods that achieve nothing except for supressing the disease's symptoms while causing further disruption of homeostasis, which causes more disease!!! Why do they do this? It's quite simple, really; these people are so greedy that they have absolutely no morals or ethics!!! And, before you ask, yes, I thoroughly agree with Kevin Trudeau: the pharmaceutical industry is pure evil, a pawn of Satan, and it must be destroyed, for the sake of virtue, justice, and the whole human race!!!!! --Luigifan 15:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

candida interna

Es posible estoy loco y la candidiasis pueda alojarse al interior de la vejiga cuando esta presenta dvertlos o lesiones, ya qu eproduce el efecto de un lugar humedo y que aunado a una dieta que inculya pastas, pan, pizz o similar aumenta su presencia.

En algunos casos he notado que su presencia se siente menos cuando ( se quita el ardor al orinar ) cuando tomas jugo de naranja, agua de sandia, debes cambiar tu PH de la orina ya que un PH de 5.0 es idoneo para este hongo.

Yuck

The photo is rather graphic... could we get a warning or something? I almost lost my lunch.

Yeah, me too..

It's just a petri dish with yeast colonies. Less disgusting than a moldy piece of bread. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eukaryotic (talk • contribs) 00:49, 23 November 2006.

How about an intravaginal picture with active infection? Like strep throat?

Now that would be disgusting. --Luigifan 11:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hell, although minor, the point is well-made, the gross picture almost made me pass out. Now we don't want people to steer away in haste from this page, do we? dirty but clean 05:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Alkaline??

"Bi-carb soda is alkaline and changes the vagina's acidity temporarily to a higher pH environment in which Candida cannot survive as Candida thrives in an acid environment." Candida thrives in an ALKALINE environment! please someone edit this before someone makes their condition worse with baking soda. A weak solution of vinegar, or yogurt, could be a substitute for the homemade remedy.

Sodium bicarbonate

In light of the above comments and because I wasn't able to find a supporting reference, I've removed the comments about treating candida infections with sodium bicarbonate. 24.26.232.162 07:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC) JL

about sodium bicarbonate and candidiasis I get wiser when I fllow this link : http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/index.php this is a non-profit solution! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jensangut (talk • contribs) 04:39, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

oral candida in immunocompetent?

i do not think oral candidiasis will occur in people without immunocompromise. is there a source on this claim?

• It can occur in immunocompetent people if they are on antibiotics which destroy their natural flora, thus allowing the already present candida to overgrow. (D.c.camero (talk) 16:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC))

What does "spp." mean???

While copyediting, I came across the following sentence: "As Candida spp. originates in the gut, some control may be exerted during an infection (and prior to or between infections) to prevent outbreaks." What's with the "spp."? I'm not an expert on biological taxonomy, so I thought maybe it meant something akin to "the family of" Candida organisms, and I left it, but now I dunno. Anyone have any better information? Carolfrog 04:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

• Close - spp is taxonomic shorthand for "all the species in this genus"; sp (just one "p") is used when you're referring to a single, but unknown species (i.e. "the Candida sp. isolate was found to ....). (See Species just above the table of contents for this info in a more official form). -- MarcoTolo 06:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Epidemic because of diet?

Just wondering if this article has ever addressed the claim that yeast infections have become widespread because of both increasing levels of sugar in the industrialized diet (especially in packaged food) and because of the widespread use of antibiotics in industrially raised meat and dairy. Could be useful to get this into the article if there's any truth in it or studies to back it up. avianp 05:00, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

• It is highly unlikely that candidiasis is on the increase due to dietary changes. Sugar is very rapidly metabolized and doesn't remain in the oral cavity long enough to cause an overgrowth. Candida is generally a topical infection so high levels of blood sugar would not effect its growth. Also the ingestion of meat and dairy that have have been given antibiotics would not be likely to cause an increase in candida because they too are often only transiently in the mouth, before being degraded in the stomach. Candida infections are generally due to immunodeficiency/immunosuppresion or antibiotics that knock out the normal flora.(D.c.camero (talk) 15:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC))

I would not discount changes in diet as a cause for an increase in yeast infections so lightly. While it is likely that monomeric/dimeric sugars, ie glucose and sucrose, probably don't stick around for long, pieces of bread containing starch lodged between teeth after a meal may be. This, coupled with the fact that highly processed foods have usually been purged of compounds with antimicrobial activities, such as lignans, tannins, etc, may well contribute to an increase in opportunistic Candida infections. I would be careful though not to correlate modern food habits directly with yeast infection, as there are many other underlying causes, such as the mentioned antibiotic use and the incidence of immunodeficiency in some people. So covering the possible relationship between nutrition and yeast infection will be a challenge, seeing that there's a great deal of unscientific literature out there that has hijacked a topic that is both complex and expansive. Just put in my two cents here, as I wouldn't want to see the baby thrown out with the bath. Malljaja (talk) 16:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Dr. William Crook

Dr. Crook was not the true originator of the notion of a chronic candidiasis syndrome. However, Crook was a major populariser of the idea. AussieOzborn au 08:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

this article really should address the full-body forms of candida overgrowth. as noted above, not everyone with this problem has a vagina. and those who have vaginas, and candida overgrowth, may not be experiencing it as a vaginal yeast infection. i had dermatitis on my elbows, and raging heartburn, until i stopped eating bread. that alone astounded me. research is finding connections between yeast and sinus problems, skin problems, mental problems, respiratory problems, etc. even if it's not proven yet, the research is compelling and should have a mention. jenny mccarthy said on larry king that she cleared up a candida overgrowth in her autistic son, and now he speaks in complete sentences. i'll indulge the skeptics, call it all theories for now, but if obesity and autism have skyrocketed in the last 30 years, maybe the things we eat do make us imbalanced? 76.238.58.132 19:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Lack of sources

This entry is a fine example as to how a wiki entry should not be: it makes a great number of bold claims and statements all of which are lacking citations from the relevant literature. I'm not disputing the veracity of any of those claims, but the info given is basically worthless without being backed up by solid references. Anyone wishing to contribute to this article should do so by including the source, preferably from the peer-reviewed scientific literature. This is the more important as candidasis is fairly widespread and many myths are still surrounding it. This may also help resolve some of the recent discussions that have come up. Reigndream 18:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I've now tagged this article for lack of verifiable sources. This is in light of the fact that information is still being added without giving valid citations, and in some cases adding info from home-grown websites with dubious content. I've began adding references to some sections, but I'm not willing to carry the bags for people who fill up the page with spurious info that goes along the line of "if you eat lots of broccoli/wheat grass/pickled ginger and do daily exercise, Candida will go away in no time"--finding citations from verifiable sources that back up a claim is the hard part, not simply adding a claim! Reigndream 13:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Websites cited are fronts for someone selling a "natural health remedy"

In this article, the website "yeastmen.com" is cited twice as a reference and once as an external resource. It is neither. This site contains very little information and under its "solutions" section, makes unsubstantiated negative comments about two widely used and effective drugs, and positive claims about a "natural remedy" called "Sarah Summer's Natural Cure." Its only external links is to Sarah Summer's site, where a very long page of unsubstantiated claims one may purchase a book explaining the "cure". The whole thing is a hoax and a front - and an AFFRONT to Wikipedia.

24.99.53.52 20:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I fully concur, and I've just removed all citations with the link in question. Reigndream 21:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

YeastMen.com was set up with the aim of helping the few who are in need of information where they can solve their problems. Resources are scarce on this topic, and we have condensed everything we have found into one website to aid these people. What you have done has just raised our awareness in what we should put for our website, even though it has caused a dent as our intentions were not to be that.

"This site contains very little information and under its "solutions" section, makes unsubstantiated negative comments about two widely used and effective drugs"

We have sources to back our claims: Ketoconazole

http://www.obgyn.net/newsheadlines/headline_medical_news-Dermatology-20040105-1.asp "We describe a previously healthy woman who developed liver cirrhosis as a sequela of acute hepatic injury that was induced by ketoconazole administration to treat onychomycosis."

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/57/4/732 "Ketoconazole inhibits testosterone biosynthesis in men"

Fluconazole

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a690002.html List of side effects

"This site contains very little information and under its "solutions" section"

We discuss several options as well. The internet has grown to a state where good ideas spread, and this particular product we recommend, Sarah Summer's Solution, has had success stories and has sold many copies. We do not endorse products that we do not think are reliable or worthy of trying.

The site is expanding with time, as more articles are added to help people who have this unfortunate ailment solve their problem and know more about it. We also want to raise awareness to the public on the realism of this condition.

We have taken your opinions into accout, and we will use it to improve the site even further.

Thank you.

Regards, Jeremy Wong —Preceding unsigned comment added by JSlayer69 (talk • contribs) 12:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Note to Reigndream: Sorry if we have been misunderstood as 'commercial'. Most websites have a revenue stream, but we here seek to help people and that is just an apparent side-effect of being able to recommend something that has been found by many people to be reliable. We are here simply to provide more information about this rare ailment for men who have it.

Please visit the site again and take a look before you decide to remove us again.

Thank you.

Jeremy —Preceding unsigned comment added by JSlayer69 (talk • contribs) 12:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I've again removed the link in question. Please have a look at Wikipedia:External links, specifically the section on "Advertising and conflicts of interest". There are several issues with your website. First, it clearly ends in .com, indicating that it is a commercial website. Second, after (again) perusing your website, I mainly notice that the reader is finally invited to purchase a copy of an e-book containing a "miracle cure"--this makes it even more clear that this website constitutes advertising for a commercial product. Third, your contribution to this entry so far has been largely limited to plugging your website rather than adding valuable and informative content to it. Therefore, this simply puts into question your avowed intention of "[providing] more information about this rare ailment"--if this were the case, we would see your contributions as a writer and editor, not merely as a link copier. Reigndream 17:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, most websites do end in a .com, simply because it is easier to remember.

Secondly, the user was not invited to purchase a copy of the ebook. It is simply one of the many options we discuss on the website and no, the website only gave a fair comparison of the advantages it has; which was also listed for every other option.

Thirdly, I did add information to the Wikipedia article and I plan to add even more soon. I did not just edit to add the link (see history).

However, I will be adding more information before I do add the link again, as its purpose is to aid people in finding more information about a specialized form of Candidiasis. This information cannot all be found in any one resource at the moment.

I apologize for any distress it may have caused you, as well as any bias against the website that has been caused by the younger version of the website.

JSlayer69 18:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Request for YeastMen.com to be Added

Hello Wikipedia Editor,

I would like to request for YeastMen.com be added as an external resource that has information pertaining to Yeast Infection in Men (Penile Candidiasis).

URL: http://www.yeastmen.com

It is a resource with information regarding Candidiasis of the penis and has information on it's causes, symptoms and potential solutions as well as information about Candidiasis itself.

Regards, Jeremy —Preceding unsigned comment added by JSlayer69 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm a nationally certified pharmacy technician, I'm working on my certification as a master herbalist, and so I've reviewed the sites http://www.yeastmen.com and http://www.natural-cure-for-yeast-infection.com, the website recommended by yeastmen.com. Yeastmen.com clearly states that prescription and over the counter medication is not recommended but "Sarah Summer's Yeast Infection Cure" is. Treatments for a specific disease or infection have to go through objective clinical studies to prove that they actually work before being approved for sale by the FDA. That went into law some time ago in order to protect the American public from useless "cures". These fake cures were rampant throughout the Victorian and Edwardian eras, and thus the reason for the law. The laws were not created in order to keep vital health information from the public. Any discussion of such a use for those laws is beyond the scope of Wikipedia. The prescription and over the counter medications yeastmen.com speaks against have, in fact, gone through this legally required clinical testing process. Most "natural remedies" have not. It's something that herbalists are trying to remedy, but the process is ongoing.

Any medication or treatment plan whatsoever, whether prescription, over the counter, herbal or natural will cause side effects. If it has the effect it supposed to, it's going to have other effects as well. Most medications of any kind cause a huge number of side effects, and some of those side effects can be downright deadly for a tiny percentage of the population. Fluconazole, ketoconazole and the "natural remedies" suggested by Sarah Summer are all going to produce adverse events, aka "side effects" in a percentage of the population. The difference is that because of rigorous clinical studies, we know what percentage of the population is going to suffer what side effects for antifungals. We don't have that information for most "natural remedies."

Suitable citations for Wikipedia science articles are publications like the Physician's Desk Reference, the Journal of the American Medical Association or any other publication that has been peer-reviewed. Peer-reviewed means that multiple people who have alphabet soup behind their names in return for years of study and hard work reviewed the article or study in a skeptical manner and found it to be valid. I found on my review of both websites that they do not qualify as peer-reviewed. In addition, neither is a valid exterior link, as the information presented on both of the websites is unsupported by either new clinical studies or mainstream science. IceandInk (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

If we knew what Sarah Summer's "secret" natural cure is, we might want to discuss it. But as long as it is secret, we can't discuss it, and so it has no place here. -71.174.177.20 (talk) 02:55, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced statements removed

I have removed the following statements as they have been tagged "citation needed" for several months:

• Candidiasis is occasionally misdiagnosed by medical personnel as bacterial in nature, and treated with antibiotics against bacteria.
• a peer-reviewed study in Australia found yogurt ineffective as treatment for Candida albicans
• As an example, oral candidiasis is often linked to the use of inhaled corticosteroids in asthma medication. Patients on long-term inhaled corticosteroids should rinse their mouths after each dose of steroids to counteract this effect.
• Breast milk is a suitable growth substrate for yeasts, and both nursing mother and baby need to be treated (even if neither is symptomatic) to prevent thrush from being passed between mother and child.
• B. Lagenbeck in 1839 in Germany was the first to demonstrate that a yeast-like fungus existed in the human oral infection "thrush." He also found that a fungus was able to cause thrush.
• Nutritionists without medical qualifications have proposed that these symptoms may be due to intestinal wall damage (known as leaky gut syndrome) caused by Candida overgrowth or other effects.

If anyone can find sources for any of these statements, feel free to re-add them. —Angr ^{If you've written a quality article...} 17:46, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Symptoms section fleshed out

It's odd that the symptoms section covers only symptoms relating to the sex organs; thrush can occur in the mouth, anus and rectum, and other mucous membranes. Anchoress (talk) 02:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

What candida eats, how it grows, and why treatments fail

http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1043&context=bioscimicro "Aerobic inoculum preparation. This vitamin mix contains biotin, pyridoxine, and thiamine (18)." ... "Oleic acid and nicotinic acid are growth factors which are required only for the anaerobic growth of C. albicans." ... Anaerobically grown C. albicans was resistant to all concentrations of amphotericin B, clotrimazole, fluconazole, miconazole, and ketoconazole (Table 1). Also, anaerobically grown cells were 4, 8, and 16 times more resistant than aerobically grown cells to cerulenin, terbinafine, and zaragozic acid B, respectively (Table 1). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.87.137.230 (talk) 19:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Alternative treatments, scientifically provent to inhibit candida albicans growth

Prevention of Candida albicans biofilm by plant oils http://www.springerlink.com/content/y8l2568677111185/fulltext.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.87.137.230 (talk) 19:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Virulence factor that induces fatal Candida infection identified

http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/life_sciences/report-114764.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.87.137.230 (talk) 17:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Selenium, Zinc, and Candida

http://books.google.com/books?id=55TkaGbyuU8C&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=candida+and+selenium+deficiency&source=bl&ots=Q5IOxyT2mJ&sig=UVP9xoKD0if7w7yK0u-mcXUHIT0&hl=en&ei=Q2TaSb-DHqPstgPViaCyCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1 "Selenium deficiency has been shown to impair in vitro ability of neutrophils and macrophages to kill ingested cells of the yeast Candida albicans.28

Zinc status in women with recurrent vulvovaginal candidiasis. Edman J, Sobel JD, Taylor ML Zinc status has been shown to influence various cell-mediated immunologic mechanisms. These cell-mediated mechanisms are important in preventing mucocutaneous infections caused by Candida albicans. This study evaluated the relationship between zinc status and recurrent vaginal candidiasis by comparing plasma and erythrocyte zinc in 29 patients with recurrent vaginal candidiasis and 20 control subjects matched for age, race, and parity. The results indicated that there was a significantly lower level of plasma zinc in women with recurrent vaginal candidiasis (81 + 11.6 mg/dl) than in the control subjects (91 +/- 14.2 mg/dl) with a significant value of p = 0.015. These differences in plasma zinc levels were even greater when adjusted for dietary zinc and supplemental zinc with the use of analyses of covariance. No differences in erythrocyte zinc measurements were found between the two groups. These results suggest that mild zinc deficiency is associated with recurrent vaginal candidiasis and may play a role in the susceptibility of women to recurrent vaginal candidiasis.

 J Med Microbiol 1983 Aug;16(3):363-9

Can baking yeast, on breads for example, cause yeast infections?

Can baking yeast, on breads for example, cause yeast infections? There are some questions I have on it and no one doctor can give me the same answer. Some say no some say yes... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.49.156.212 (talk) 08:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC) okkkkkkkk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.174.177 (talk) 14:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Saccharomyces cerevisiae is the yeast used by bakers, and it is very different from candida albicans. The short and simple answer is no :) Mirithing (talk) 11:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Mirithing is correct about the difference between S. cerevisiae and Candida species--the former is rarely pathogenic (only potentially in very severely immunocompromised persons) and when used in bread making the yeast cells have been killed by the baking process. Some beers and wine can contain mixtures of different yeast species (eg, Saccharomyces carlsbergensis, etc), but again probably not Candida species (whose metabolism is adapted to living in/on animal tissues). I see the connection to this entry, but I'd suggest not to ask questions of this nature here, as WP is not a medical forum. Malljaja (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Men get it too, you know ...

"I know they do, the article says so." ... fair enough, but the article says fuck all about what men should expect, what their symptoms are, or how to cope with it. With women the main symptoms are discharge and tenderness, with men it can be exceptionally traumatising. Given that 9/10 men are uncircumcised, they are potential candidates for infection, and even circumcised men get it.

Why so bitter? Because I've always considered wiki a wonderful resource, the first time I had a candidiasis infection I came here looking for information and found nothing. The majority of websites out there on it are either 100% for women, or 100% selling something, or 100% of both (100% of the time! :P).

Two years on, I just finished a course of anti-biotics due to a flu, and sure enough, same thing cropped up after the course was through. Sure enough, I turned to wiki. Sure enough it's still NPOV towards females almost exclusively.

Are men ashamed to talk about it? Are we too bashful to concede that having the head of our cock covered in sores, oozing discharge, and our foreskin swelling with such inflammation that pissing feels like you're pissing molten lead? You shouldn't be. It's a serious issue, and this mentality of pretending it doesn't exist is why the first time around I went untreated for a long time and I'm sure many other men do.

Freaking out thinking it's an STD, panic, eventual experimentation with anti-fungal creams, getting that shit all over the place in your underwear and on everything you come into contact with, the gross smell of the cream after a few days, the difficulty washing yourself properly due to agonising pain.

Now, soap boxing aside, but I wanted to give it a little perspective from someone who has and is suffering it; we need to make this page more expansive as a resource. Someone has split the 'types' up into individual pages, it doesn't include penile candidiasis, and most of the names are in medical jargon with no explanation nearby; I'm lucky I'm versed in anatomy to get it. Perhaps we could move those back INTO the article considering they're one liners, and perhaps we could expand on the male side of things a little bit?

Also, whilst this is 100% personal research, my second infection I'm taking nilstat (nylstatin) which is a perscription anti fungal, and one day in and it's made a world of difference. The creams would cause things to worsen significantly before things got better. I can't find any supporting evidence from third party sites, but if someone could, to be able to add this into the mens section, you will be saving many, many men from a traumatising, messy, and painful time fucking around with lame creams that don't work effectively. 114.76.205.101 (talk) 12:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Agreed The info is all over the place and you dont even know what the symptoms are for men in most of these articles (well a brief description) 69.157.63.181 (talk) 22:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)