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Why Infogrames?

Why is it called "Infogrames" Why not -games, since they make games? It's always bothered me. Anyone know?

And lo, an answer was added to the article. Behold the power of Wikipedia! (Short answer? They're French.) — Catherine\^talk 00:53, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Satisfaction... has been received. Thankyou.

More meaningful info

I have taken this out. It's nonsense. It would be a lot better if you improved the article in a meaningful way - perhaps you could add something about the history of the company. As it stands the article describes the company's founding, and it tells us how to pronounce its name. But there is almost nothing about what the company did after 1983. How many games did it release? Were any of them famous? How did it go from obscurity to being one of the world's largest producers of computer games? Why did it adopt the Atari name? Where did they get the money from? How is the company thought of in France? 85.210.184.79 15:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Atari name change

Added more info on the Atari name change, I just grabbed the sentence from the Atari wiki. Page could do with some more info and a bit of a clean-up.--BrotherEstapol 15:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A few questions

Does Infogrames still have that Armadillo logo? Yes, they do. If you go to Infogrames.com, it is on top of their page.

Firstly I see in the opening sentence that "Infogrames Entertainment SA (IESA) was an international holding company", why the was? doesn't Infogrames still exist?

AFAICT, you're correct -- Infogrames has renamed all their subsidiaries Atari, but the corporate parent still retains the Infogrames name. So I believe this edit was mistaken, and I'm putting it back now. Without that was in the first sentence, the article seems to be consistent on this. -- jhf 15:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway secondly, if you look at allot of their recent games, the company calls itself "Infogrames Interactive", in this article it's being called "Infogrames Entertainment" and it used to appear on games as just "Infogrames", so what is the explanation or the significance of the apparently changing name(s)? --Hibernian 07:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zboub

The founders wanted to christen the company Zboub Système.

Just for info: Zboub means dicks in Moroccan Arabic... If someone wants to make sure that the statement is correct... Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 16:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Atari Inc

IMO those are the issues:

The Infogrames web site says repeatedly that Infogrames Entertaiment SA is a holding company acting as a parent company to Atari Group. And Atari Inc is not an entity is a a Nasdaq listed company http://corporate.infogrames.com/infogramesgb/2007/04/atari.php http://corporate.infogrames.com/MT-3.34-en/mt-static/FCKeditor/UserFiles/File/DOCDEREF05_06GB.pdf page 9 The infogrames web site doesn't mention, Atari interactive or changes in the ownership of Atari.

The Atari article that says that Atari Interactive is now owner of Atai Group is unsourced. I am not trying to create trouble, I am simply copying documents I find on Google, so if a better souce is found I have no problems in erasing what I've just wrote.

Atari Group is a recently created group as mentioned, your text made it seemed like it was created in 2003. Atari Inc. is a separate corporate entity that is majority owned by Infogrames, as also stated here. Here's a specific source that talks about Atari Inc. and how they license their name and properties from Atari Interactive, and another, and this one. Here's another SEC filing that lists the two separate Atari corporate entities (Atari Inc. and Atari Interactive), and this one that reports a licensing deal brokered between the two by their parent (Infogrames), as well as naming Atari Interactive's CEO at the time Frederic Chesnais. There's this page for Neverwinter nights that lists other members of Atari Interactive, Inc., and this page that talks about the history of Atari Interactive, Inc. And lastly, here's the initial filing in 2003 for setting up of the two separate entities and their stated relationship to each other and Infogrames. --Marty Goldberg 05:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WOW! Fantastic!! That's a wealth of information and sources. You have no idea how much I googled for information pertaining Infogrames, it will take a while for me to digest the information but still, the links will be very useful. I need to google no more :)

Why didn't you use the links??? EconomistBR 05:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because if you notice my profile, I'm game programmer currently on contract to Atari Inc. So I'm a bit busy to start looking stuff up like this normally. ;) --Marty Goldberg 05:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Infogrames' logo is a fictional armadillo

I also thought about reverting the edit, but his edit is correct. Infogrames' logo is a fictional armadillo, that's a fact, I checked on Google.

IMO including Infogrames on the category: Fictional Armadillo is silly and quite dumb, but we must never allow ourselves to judge the merit of information.

Therefore the category: Fictional armadillo should stay, because it's not our job to judge the worth of information. EconomistBR 03:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems silly to me too, but...ya never know, there might be armadillo aficionados out there who might want to look up references to armadillos in popular culture. Isn't there a comic book out there with an armadillo as thje main character? and who knows what else..... Disney character? its the mascot of at least one university i think....

Alienburrito (talk) 03:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why the nanem change from Infogrammes to IESA in the article

In the "1996-2002 Growth Through Acquisition" section, sudeenly the references switch from Infogrammes to IESA. WHy? That needs to be explained. Did the company change their name? Get bought out by someone? buy a bunch of companies and reorganize them under a shell holding company? did one of the article authors just mess up?

Alienburrito (talk) 03:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what you're talking about, its explained in the very first paragraph. The full name of the company is Infogrames Entertainment SA, IESA for short (which is what they use as well). IESA is the proper abbreviation, "Infogrames" by itself is just slang. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 03:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Marty Goldberg, he is absolutely correct.⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 03:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IESA Name Change To Occur

Just a heads up, Gardner's talking about changing IESA to an Atari name now as well. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 17:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which has now happened. Sslaxx (talk) 20:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, as of today literally. Though we don't know what the actual full corporate name will be yet (since Atari Inc. is already the name of the US subsidiary). --Marty Goldberg (talk) 20:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could well just be Atari Entertainment SA? 83.104.34.212 (talk) 12:21, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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