Talk:California

Maine?

Why does the article state that "California is the second-largest U.S. state by land area after Alaska and Texas, and preceding Maine." Maine? Since when was Maine the fourth largest U.S. state by any measure? I'm just a little confused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riverside04 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

It was vandalism. It was intended to say Montana, and was reverted just around the time you posted your comment here. Killiondude (talk) 16:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

ANYONE KNOW OF PLANS TO SPLIT CALIFORNIA? NORTH AND SOUTH?

Hi here in SoCal (Soputhern Cailfornia) suppossely a plan has been put forward for a new Statre Soputhern California Called "Coastal california" yet nothing on any web serach anyone know of this idea? ThanksTeslaguy (talk) 01:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

There have been talks of splitting the state in two for many years, and several proposals in the state legislature (though they've gone nowhere). A simple Google search for 'splitting California' or something similar will give you plenty of information. As an aside, please do not type in all caps, as it is considered rude. Best, faithless (^speak) 03:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I have never heard of it. Any new information ?--32.177.13.17 (talk) 03:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok why no mention of Splitting California into two states in article?

Liked to know more about the past and present? plans to split California into two States Northern California and Southern California. Why doesnt article on California mentuion the ';differences' pokliticaly and attiude wise between the more somber Northern California and the Laid back Southern California? Thanks! Andreisme (talk) 18:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Currently, there is no such plan under serious consideration. When the "State of Jefferson movement" is mentioned in reliable sources (which is rare), it is in the context of portraying a small fringe group. They're not really notable enough for inclusion in a much larger general article about California. --Loonymonkey (talk) 01:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Demographics

"According to the 2006 ACS Estimates, California's population is:

   * 59.8% White American including White Hispanic
   * 43% White non-Hispanic
   * 35.9% are Hispanic or Latino (of any race)[24]
   * 12.3% Asian American
   * 6.2% Black or African American
   * 3.3% mixed
   * 0.7% American Indian"

Ok, I get it... but surely there's a better way to present this? Thoughts??? Cmiych (talk) 16:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any citation for this material, except for the Hispanic/Latino percentage. Who's the ACS? Perhaps we should go back to the Census Bureau data, even if it is less current.   Will Beback  talk  17:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

ACS is the American Community Survey, which is a U.S. Census Bureau report. See this link. Alanraywiki (talk) 17:19, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Got it. I went to the source and corrected the data and improved the ref. I indented the "White, non-Hispanic" to better show that it's a subset of White American.   Will Beback  talk  17:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

" * 60.4% White American including White Hispanic

         o 43.0% are White, non-Hispanic or Latino
   * 35.7% are Hispanic or Latino (of any race)
   * 12.2% Asian American
   * 6.3% Black or African American
   * 3.3% mixed
   * 0.7% American Indian"

Thank you for cleaning it up a bit. However, the numbers still don't add up. What exactly is this supposed to be communicating? Cmiych (talk) 21:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Budget deficit

I added this, but someone erased it, claiming it was crystal balling. I disagree with the claim that it was crystal balling, because the info is about the past, not the future:

A May 3, 2009 opinion column by George Will in the Washington Post stated, "If, since 1990, state spending increases had been held to the inflation rate plus population growth, the state would have a $15 billion surplus instead of a $42 billion budget deficit..."[40]

Grundle2600 (talk) 01:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't sound WP:CRYSTAL to me, but it doesn't sound worthy of inclusion, either. State spending increases had not been held to the inflation rate plus population growth, so the rest of it is pretty much irrelevant. It's a bit coulda-shoulda-woulda, setting out what might have been, rather than the actual facts of what was or is. Great for a George Will column, not so great for an encylopedia. TJRC (talk) 01:47, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not "crystal balling", but it is speculation. There are countless bills and policies that were, or were not, passed over the past few decades which might have resulted in a different budget situation today.   Will Beback  talk  03:31, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not "crystal balling", but it is speculation. There are countless bills and policies that were, or were not, passed over the past few decades which might have resulted in a different budget situation today. Waterjuice (talk) 03:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Well said. I agree entirely. ;)   Will Beback  talk  04:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I have add something and it should stay in. There is no longer any speculation about this, this a lager problem for California now. If the state does not cut $24 billion form the budget it may go insolvent. I think a whole section should be add for this. NWH5305 03:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nwh5305 (talk • contribs)

I believe this is a typo:

In 2009 the California economic crisis became severe as the stare faces insolvency

...and should read:

In 2009 the California economic crisis became severe as the state faces insolvency

Vandtekor (talk) 22:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. With a few more edits you should b able to edit the page (See Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed users). -22:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

It now seems appropriate to remove the description of this state as comparable to one of the largest economies in the world, which currently sits in the header to this article. Opinions? Jddriessen (talk) 11:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Actors

Why does California always elect movie actors to the governorship??? 204.133.215.130 (talk) 01:15, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

This page is to discuss improving the article, not to discuss the topic. See WP:TALK. Thanks. Killiondude (talk) 02:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

financial crisis

where can i find information on the current financial crisis is it in another article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.42.174 (talk) 21:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Portal link images

Several different images are currently being used on links to the California portal. What is your preference? Is there a consensus favorite?

Please discuss at Portal talk:California#Portal link images.

Links to the other state portals are displayed at Wikipedia:List of U.S. state portals. Yours aye, Buaidh (talk) 17:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Muslims in California

Less than .5% of Californians are Muslim per page 103 of this Pew study. The highest state is actually Nevada with 2%. I am removing the unsourced claim that 3.4% of Californians are Muslim. Alanraywiki (talk) 23:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)