User talk:Ttonyb1

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HJSplit

Hi, you recently put an article I started (HJSplit) up for speedy deletion because of "blatant copyright infringement". However, also the link you provided did contain what I wrote, the information I put was available on many sites such as download.com and the official site so I doubt I was infringing copyright. Even though my page has now been deleted, I would appreciate it if you could review your decision or tell me what was wrong with my article since I am new here and would like to contribute to this encyclopedia. Thanks, Elppin (talk) 15:15, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. It is hard to determine the origin of text on the web. The site that used your text did not show that it was licensed under Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License 3.0 or GFDL, so it was marked as a Copyvio. In order to get past a copyvio, you need to show the original publication and that the publication is licensed for use under the terms listed above. You might want to take a look at donating copyrighted material for use in Wikipedia. If you have any further questions, please let me know. Thanks... ttonyb1 (talk) 15:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Biography vs. notable diamond - Shirley Strawn

Hi,

The biography of Shirley Strawn has been flagged for speedy deletion. I placed a hang on in it. Please let me know what criteria the biography needs or whether we should delete the biography and put up another article "Strawn-Wagner Diamond" instead, or perhaps both the bio and the diamond. I have access to interviewing Shirley; is there anything she can provide that would be critical to add?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unbiassed (talk • contribs) 16:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I removed the CSD tag from the article; however, I would suggest you rewrite the article so it is called "Strawn-Wagner Diamond" instead of Shirley Strawn and focus on the diamond instead of the person. I would suspect, most people would look for the diamond rather than Ms. Strawn. With that said, the article is probably OK as it stands, although someone else may make it for deletion. ttonyb1 (talk) 16:47, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Change title of page - Strawn-Wagner Diamond

How may the title of a page be corrected? In this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawn-wagner_diamond

"wagner" should have a capital "W" as well as the "D" in "diamond".

I have another article that needs the title corrected, so I seek how to rather than someone doing it for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unbiassed (talk • contribs) 18:38, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I took care of it for you. Since the article is a copy of Shirley Strawn I am going to forward that article to Strawn-Wagner Diamond. Is there a way to combine the two articles under Strawn-Wagner Diamond? ttonyb1 (talk) 19:09, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

numbers in parenthesis

What do the numbers in parenthesis, for example, (-2,480) or (+21) mean the "my watchlist" page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unbiassed (talk • contribs) 19:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC) --Unbiassed (talk) 20:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

They are the change in number of bytes resulting from the last edit. ttonyb1 (talk) 03:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from Catholic Roots, Mormon Harvest

Hello Ttonyb1, this is an automated message from SDPatrolBot to inform you the PROD template you added to Catholic Roots, Mormon Harvest has been removed. It was removed by ThaddeusB with the following edit summary '(remove prod - prod was contested on the talk page)'. Please consider discussing your concerns with ThaddeusB before pursuing deletion further yourself. If you still think the article should be deleted after communicating with the 'dePRODer,' you may want to send the article to AfD for community discussion. Thank you, SDPatrolBot (talk) 22:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC) (Learn how to opt out of these messages)

Benjamin lee webster

Just taking a short break. Please don't delete this. I'm still working on getting Mr. Webster's info on Wikipedia. Thanks, Thyssen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vegasproductions (talk • contribs) 03:47, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I only nominated the article for deletion. An admin will review the article and delete if it does not meet Wikipedia criteria. As it stands it will probably be deleted. The article fails to meet WP:BIO. ttonyb1 (talk) 03:51, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Ttonyb1, go ahead and delete the article about Benjamin Lee Webster. I read over the WP:BIO and Mr. Webster does not yet meet the criteria (that I know of). Thanks. Thyssen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vegasproductions (talk • contribs) 04:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

It has been deleted. Feel free to add it back in when he meets the criteria. My best to you. ttonyb1 (talk) 04:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Operation Chihuahua

Please atleast give me a week to update the article its a little tough finding a good number of news on the operation. thank you. Homan05

I only nominated the article for deletion. An admin will review the article and delete if it does not meet Wikipedia criteria. As it stands it will probably be deleted. You may want to create the article in a User/sandbox, edit it there, and when finished upload it to the mainspace. ttonyb1 (talk) 04:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Tony. Please note that we have had numerous discussions at the village pump and at WT:CSD regarding the problem of people tagging new articles with A1/A3 templates, when the article was just created moments before the tagging. That is the reason {{hasty}} was created, as I used on the article (and which worked in this case), and why at Special:Newpages it states at the top "Please consider patrolling pages from the back of the unpatrolled backlog." There is general consensus that A1/A3s should not be applied to articles almost immediately after creation. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:04, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks... ttonyb1 (talk) 06:06, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't let the anti-deletionists get you down. Keep up the good work. Wperdue (talk) 06:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, for the message. Much appreciated. I try to always keep smiling. 8-) ttonyb1 (talk) 06:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I have deleted as an admin, and caused deletion through tagging prior thereto, probably more than 10,000 "articles". I am as far from "anti-deletionist" as you can get. Coming here and basically saying "don't listen" (to the highly-experienced admin who is heavily involved in structuring our deletion policies) because I must just be a rabid inclusionist is not useful.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Deep cleaning breaths may be appropriate here. 8-) First of all, I did not see that anyone told me to ignore you or your advice – what I got from his comment was only not to get discouraged. I appreciate both your comments and Wpredue's comments. If you have an issue with Wperdue, please take it to his user page. Thanks... ttonyb1 (talk) 14:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I apologize if I caused drama on your talk page. My comment was meant as lighthearted encouragement and I meant no offense. Attitude is hard to judge in electronic communication. Happy editing. Wperdue (talk) 17:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Wperdue, no apology necessary. I took your comment precisely as you intended it and again thank you for your encouragement. My best to all. ttonyb1 (talk) 19:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Ayrton "Gary" Ferreria dos Santos, Jr.

Instead of marking it for deletion, try helping me restore the original article on this man. He is a New York City performance artist, who has been doing his thing for some 15 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLocalOne (talk • contribs)

Please note that referring to PMDrive1061 as a nobody is not an altitude that will not get you far on Wikipedia. It not only violates Wikipedia guidelines on civility, but is rude and unnecessary. If you wish to get some help, I suggest you remove that statement and create the article in a User/sandbox, edit it there, and when finished upload it to the mainspace. The article currently fails WP:BIO and will be deleted unless the article meets that criteria. If you have any questions after you move, you can ask for help. ttonyb1 (talk) 05:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

James Walton Fonteno

Sorry Tony - just learning how to work within Wikipedia... Just saw you wrote me on my user page.

Is there anything else I should do to pass wikipedia standards? There are a number of additional news articles at the local, state and a few at the federal level - just did not have more time to add them tonite and did not want the whole thing deleted before I had time to get back to add them.

Is there enough for now to pass wikipedia notability standards?

Chase —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chase Fonteno (talk • contribs) 01:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem, negotiating the streets of Wikipedia as a new user can be a bit daunting, it will get easier. I think the article is ready for prime time and do not think it is in danger of being deleted. I have left the Notability and COI tags in place, but probably will remove them after looking at the article sometime tomorrow. You can take a look at notability for biographies for more information about what is needed in an article. My best to you ... ttonyb1 (talk) 04:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Tony, I will do just that. Chase —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chase Fonteno (talk • contribs) 05:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Julius Cheeks

Hello, Please take a look at the page on Cheeks. I think you should be able to take off the SD now. In the future, as Cheeks is certainly notable, it may be better to take 5 mins and pare it down to a stub rather than delete this type of problem. Thank you for your great work! Joe407 (talk) 05:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Nice work saving the article. I have removed the CSD tags. ttonyb1 (talk) 05:57, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Connect to my new professional social network (Wikipedia, included)

<http://www.linkedin-ech3.com/in/rythmomachy> is creative commons represented, I will verify —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.87.123.44 (talk) 11:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. What article is this in reference to? ttonyb1 (talk) 14:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Walt Howarth

Hi, why has there been a speedy deletion tag been placed on my Walt Howarth page? He was my Grandpa and I have absolutely no idea why this has happened.

Thanks, Michael —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJH-12 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

It has been marked as a copyright violation. The text is a copy of text that exists in [1]. ttonyb1 (talk) 15:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

That was originally copied from a newspaper article about my Grandpa, that is being used to sell his work for profit! This is outrageous —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJH-12 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

If it is copied from a newspaper, then the newspaper has been copyrighted as well. ttonyb1 (talk) 15:56, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

We have had copyright of the local newspaper as we commissioned the article! This is a joke, this page needs to be reinstated! Appalling —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJH-12 (talk • contribs) 15:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe this has happened! Please can you just reinstate it. How can it be copyright infringement when we own the copyright?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJH-12 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I cannot recreate the article, it has been deleted by an admin. Wikipedia is very serious about following copyright laws. If you are the owner of the material, please see donating copyrighted materials to Wikipedia. Until you have completed the steps in the discussion the article will be deleted. ttonyb1 (talk) 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for deleting the article. I'm so very pleased to have spent my time and effort when all you have done is got rid of it in COMPLETE ERROR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJH-12 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

First off, I did not delete the article, I only nominated it for deletion because if failed to meet Wikipedia criteria by violating Wikipedai copyright guidelines. If you wish to reinstate it , I suggest you read the articles listed above.. BTW - your sarcasm will not get you far in the Wikipedia community. There are many of us willing to help you negotiate the Wikipedia maze, but not at the expense of sarcastic comments. My best to you. ttonyb1 (talk) 16:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I sincerely apologise, I was frustrated. However it cannot be copyright when it is his life story. Especially when the ebay auction would have stolen the details from my MySpace tribute page to my Grandpa - www.myspace.com/walthowarthart

Sorry once again. However if I reinstate the page, it will include the same detail....which is his life story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.23.9.240 (talk) 07:44, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the apology. His life story is not being copyrighted, it is the text that describes his life story that is copyrighted. If that text exists on a myspace page and was copied from it there is an implied copyright of the text. If you are the owner/author of the text, you need to follow the steps in donating copyrighted materials to Wikipedia to allow its use in Wikipedia. My best to you. ttonyb1 (talk) 12:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Vision Sports Television Network

The article creator has removed the PROD. Would you care to set up and AfD for it? 98.248.32.178 (talk) 20:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I have AfD'd the article. ttonyb1 (talk) 21:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

question about speed deletion

Tony,

I don't understand why my entry for DoubleHorn Communications was deleted. I know there are other corporate entries, including another one I have posted. I can't imagine my entry for DoubleHorn was too marketing-oriented, but maybe it was. This was the feedback:

Removed CSD notification tag Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thearcadiannewspaper"

The article appeared to fail WP:COMPANY. ttonyb1 (talk) 21:46, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The First American Automobile....

Dear Sir/Madam Ttonyb1,

This is my first attempt after much research to post an article on Wikipedia.

I am afraid that i have barely the knowledge of computer, in which to type.

When you would possibly find the time to have the subject article posted on at least the talk page, it would be most appreciated.

It would be nice should i also be able to receive an emailed copy.

Don't know how much i am asking for even. Any help for this strict layman, would be most appreciated.

Warm Regards Friend,

Mark B. Minckler (heraldic@email.com) —Preceding unsigned comment added by HeraldicEagle (talk • contribs) 04:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear Mark, thanks for the message and congratulations on your new article. I am hesitant to create the article for you for the simple reason that it will show me as the author and would deny you the feedback that is so much a part of Wikipedia. By creating the article it will allow you to get feedback directly from the Wikipedia community about your article and, if necessary, how to improve it. Please read the section how to create a page, specifically, the section entitled How to create a page. The process is really not that difficult, basically you have done the hard part by creating and editing the text. If you have any questions, please feel to let me know. Thanks... ttonyb1 (talk) 04:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Bite

I thought I was a bit of a newbie biter but I was disgusted to see you tag Lvanhouten/railroad for speedy deletion. Surely it was obvious that it was a user page? — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 00:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Ouch, I am a little concerned that you would use the word "disgusted" in your message. I can see you use the word perplexed or an equivalent word, but "disgusted". I made a mistake - pure and simple. I apologize for any extra work I created, but I am not perfect. I understand the work of an Admin is sometimes thankless and you take a lot of heat for your valid actions; and I thank you for pointing it out my mistake, but wish you had approached it a little differently. My best to you... ttonyb1 (talk) 00:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

So as I look at the situation further, I see that I marked the article Lvanhouten/railroad with a valid CSD; additionally, I did check to see if there was an article for Grand Elk Railroad. Which there was. I assumed Lvanhouten/railroad and Grand Elk Railroad were by the same authors. Again, a mistake on my part. So if you had assumed good faith, neither of us would be creating drama on my talk page. Again, my best to you... ttonyb1 (talk) 00:50, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, for "disgusted" read "surprised". Is that acceptable? — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 01:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks... ttonyb1 (talk) 04:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Sock?

I shall assume good faith but it does seem a lot of a coincidence that you and user:Tony1 both want their user talk page to be within a formatting div. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 01:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, it now looks as if this has gotten muddy and I do not appreciate the mud you are slinging. You have got to be joking, that is the only way I can even start to justify you comment about me being a sock. If you wish to declare me a sockpuppet, do so, I welcome it. But I suggest you do so with evidence stronger than a missing or added div statement. If I was to be a sock, why would I choose an almost identical name. I am not sure I have ever seen two unrelated editors one with 40K+ and the other with 23K+ edits accused of being socks - particularly by an admin, so fire away. Nothing in your statement makes sense to me. Gee whiz... ttonyb1 (talk) 04:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

• Silly season. Ohconfucius (talk) 06:44, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

What is a "formatting div."? See this interesting debate, too. Tony (talk) 07:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The phrase "formatting div" was shorthand for saying: both your user talk pages contain <div style="… tags defining special border and background colours and you expect messages to be placed before the </div> which closes that div. OK, so it is an interesting coincidence and nothing more. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 09:59, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

<sarcasm>...and he and I both use the word "and" repeatedly in our talk pages. Interesting, oh, please... </sarcasm> ttonyb1 (talk) 15:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

• Is this connected with the apparent breakdown of the system on my talk page earlier today? Messages were suddenly appearing below the "div" box. Tony (talk) 17:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea, I did note that RHaworth added a /div tag to my talk page that forced comments below the box. Perhaps he did the same to yours. ttonyb1 (talk) 17:45, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I certainly did. The puzzle is: Tony1, if you want contributions to come within your pretty box, why on earth did you not delete my </div> tag? — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 08:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

MLIA

Hi Tony,

I saw that you nominated the MLIA article for deletion. I did not create the article, but I did try to improve it. Please tell me what I can do make sure this article is not deleted. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gohoushmandzadeh (talk • contribs) 18:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at the Notability criteria for websites. The article has to meet this criteria. Also, keep in mind the article must conform to the Wikipedia policy on verifiability to reliable sources, and that primary sources alone are not sufficient to establish notability; web-specific content. After you have looked at the criteria, let me know if you have any questions or if I can be of any help. ttonyb1 (talk) 18:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Please read Sarey Savy (Singer/Songwriter)'s Discussion.

You may need to read Sarey's discussion page. You should not delete the article for several reasons on the discussion page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wheelmade (talk • contribs) 02:53, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Please add your comments concerning the article to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarey Savy (Singer/Songwriter) ttonyb1 (talk) 03:31, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Homorazzi

My apology, I failed to notice his removals of CSD. Your move to AfD is the right one. Once again, I apologise for my lack of knowledge. --Lionelisbest (talk) 04:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

No need to apologize. My best to you. ttonyb1 (talk) 05:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

And mine to you. Cheers,Lionelisbest (talk) 05:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Diane Schuler

I removed the speedy tag you place at Diane Schuler. The subject has coverage in reliable sources such as New York Times; it's not an obvious candidate for speedy. I think you should use AfD instead. Offliner (talk) 13:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. ttonyb1 (talk) 13:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Earth Quest Adventures

Next time, try not to be so hasty on tagging for speedy deletion for legit articles like this. The creator is creating a huge stink over at IRC as a result, which could have been avoided. Thank you, MuZemike 16:44, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

He is more than welcome to complain; however, did he mention he could have added a hangon tag and then added the references needed to substantiate the article instead of just removing the tags. (At that point, I would have removed the CSD.) BTW - did he mention the uncivil remarks he left on his page about the CSD tagging? ttonyb1 (talk) 16:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Vidal Cantu Garza page

   f you are the owner of the text, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the it — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. ttonyb1 (talk) 21:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Done.. is ok? thanks.. Vidal Cantu