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This page is for discussion about the village pump only. You may want one of the village pump subpages above, or one of the links on the village pump main page. Irrelevant discussions will be moved or removed.

Is this the right place for software modification proposals?

A lot of the proposals on the project page involve programming changes. I don't see comments from developers about feasibility, the amount of work required to implement the changes, and other priorities for the developers' time. Without that essential input, making and discussing proposals for what more they should do for us isn't all that meaningful, or at least is missing a very important element. Is this the right place for these discussions? Finell (Talk) 16:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, WP:VPT and Bugzilla are better places for asking for programming changes. Proposals is properly used for establishing the consensus needed to change something on the dev's side (as well as our side, of course). I know the dev's read WP:VPT, but I don't know if they read VPP. They occasionally comment there as well. --Izno (talk) 18:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So why the heck does WP:VPT say "This page is not for new feature requests. Bugs and feature requests should be made at the BugZilla or the Village pump proposals page because there is no guarantee developers will read this page." -- which I interpret as meaning, "If you don't understand BugZilla, then post all proposals that require any programming changes at VPP, because the devs read VPP, but not VPT"? WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Probably because whoever wrote it didn't know what they were talking about. Mr.Z-man 21:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For the most part, this is a silly place for technical proposals that require changes to MediaWiki. The English Wikipedia isn't the only site that uses MediaWiki; the results of a poll here aren't especially meaningful to the developers. At best, it will influence a developer who has ties to this project. Proposals to enable existing features that are disabled by default or proposals to install a MediaWiki extension should be made here, as these require little coding work and only only affect this project. People certainly can make proposals for technical changes here, but they should know that consensus here is no guarantee it will be done and ideally, people should ask about feasibility before they make the proposal. Mr.Z-man 21:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving problem!

I just found that there is an Archive48 and Archive 48 I don't know how you handle the archives here, but I guess thats not how it should be. Greets --Dbenzhuser (talk) 10:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody? Leaving it this way, means that nobody will find those 45 proposals on the first of the two pages ever again. --Dbenzhuser (talk) 23:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've notified the bot owners responsible. I'll merge the archives after they've had a chance too look at it and figure out what went wrong. —Ruud 01:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the archiving, it was missing a space. I'll fix the archives now. Gimme a minute. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 02:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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