Talk:Al-Qaeda

reference?

why there are no reference at all for the 2nd paragraph?

Al-Qaeda has attacked civilian and military targets in various countries, the most notable being the September 11 attacks in 2001. These actions were followed by the US government launching the War on Terrorism. Between three thousand and four thousand members of the network have been captured, and many thousands more killed on the front in Afghanistan.

I know its obvious that nearly everyone knows that, beside conspiracy theorist, but still, shouldn't there by any reference over there?

Founding

The summary says "it was founded" based on the contention of a single person. Founded by who? I find it far more believable what that british foreign minister and fisk and other say that the name THE BASE refers to a database of the 30000 fighters who were hired indirectly by the CIA.

Robin Cook, former leader of the British House of Commons and Foreign Secretary from 1997-2001, wrote in The Guardian on Friday, July 8 2005,

Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.

I respectfully request the wording of the first paragraph to reflect that. 85.197.25.108 (talk) 09:56, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

SGI's involment

the real blame belongs to The SGI, a sick bunch of buddhist priest hater's and not the good people of Islam Dont you think it is time that the SGI where investigated for there part in 9/11? You do know that they helped pay for it dont you? That all the mising money the Japanese Govenment where looking fo in the late 1980's was being sent to Al Qeada. I THINK IT IS TIME THAT THE BLOOD THAT ISLAM IS ACCUSED OF SHEADING BE PUT IN ITS RIGHT PLACE!!! THAT DAISAKU ILKEDA FACE HIS CRIMES. THAT HE PAYED FOR THE TWIN TOWER'S TO BE DESTROYED!!! Look at it this way, Il Ke Da (spoken) = Al Qae Da (spoken). All we know is that they said they would die for "ALQAEDA/ Ilkeda". Long has the good people of Japan called the SGI yakuza, I thikn that they are more. THEY ARE TERROREST!!!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.171.199.50 (talk) 12:58, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 

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"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaeda. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the devil only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US."

Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook died 4 weeks after this public declaration.

To who ever included the above, what was your point of discussion and may we have your source for this statement? Wolf3685 (talk) 09:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

London 7/7 =

not al-qaeda http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/apr/09/july7.uksecurity

The September 11 attacks were the most devastating terrorist acts in American and world history, killing approximately 3,000 people

I think that this sentence is a POV and not a fact. Many others could argue that other bombings killed more than 3000 people. Many of those bombings also comply with mosts definitions of terrorism. --zorxd (talk) 19:02, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• What other bombing killed 3000 or more at one time? ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.75.232.246 (talk) 05:35, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

At least both atomic bombs in 1945. It was called state terrorism by some people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki#Debate_over_bombings 9/11 was also called state terrorism by others since they pretend that it was supported by Afghanistan (tailiban regime)--zorxd (talk) 20:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget the firebombing of Dresden, a civilian target. 68.61.152.24 (talk) 21:42, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the sentence, but it still shouldn't be on there. Whether or not the nuclear bombs "count" towards this claim is a debatable matter, and it is not an encylopaedias place to insist that one side of that debate is correct. You can just put "The September 11 attacks were among the most devastating terrorist attacks in..." and it is indisputably correct. Petercrawley (talk) 15:01, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

between 200 and 300 members

"As of 2009, the group is believed to have between 200 and 300 members" Is this accurate and could it not be reworded to point out it has many more followers or those who use Brand "al-qeada" BritishWatcher (talk) 02:27, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

BBC admits Al-Qaeda never existed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=r-hYorNi0nA

It's not exactly just some random news source, it's the BBC one of, if not the most credible news organisations in the world. I'd think information like this would be pretty relevant to this article (given that it states the group was fictional) Would someone like to add this/make it part of the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.29.251.159 (talk) 22:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• It's The Power of Nightmares, which is already mentioned in the article. Uncle G (talk) 19:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

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Please contribute to the discussion. Uncle G (talk) 19:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)