Talk:Catholic Church in Somalia

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I read, Middayexpress, on your contributions that you are a kind of "specialist" in Somalian topics on en.wikipedia, and I respect your continuous commitment. But I understand even that you are a moslem and you seem to want to "erase" the catholic presence in Somalia even in en.wikipedia. I, as a catholic, feel a bit upset by your denial of catholicism in Somalia. I have added references and you quickly erased those evidences....why? They are not OR. The sentences added can be found here, just before the "after slavery" section. I am sorry, but this is en. wikipedia and I am ready to start a complaint procedure if you revert again.--LittleTony (talk) 02:26, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

moved from LittleTony's talkpage:

Kindly stop adding original research to the Roman Catholicism in Somalia article. You claim the following:

Catholicism was introduced in the part of Somalia that was called Italian Somalia in the late 1800s. The other areas with Somalian people (namely former British Somaliland, French Somaliland, Ethiopian Ogaden and Kenya north-eastern provinces) practically had no catholic presence.

Initially catholicism was practiced only by the few Italian colonists in Mogadishu and the Shebelle river farmer areas. But after WWI many Somalians become catholics: most of them were former black slaves, called Somali Bantu, in the Villaggio Duca degli Abruzzi and Genale plantations.

In 1895, the first 45 slaves were freed by the Italian colonial authority under the administration of the chartered catholic company "Filonardi" and converted to catholicism. Massive emancipation and conversion of slaves in Somalia only began after the antislavery activist father Robecchi Bricchetti informed the Italian public about the slave trade in Somalia and the indifferent attitude of the Italian colonial government toward the trade.

You've indicated that this source supports your edit, even though that source does not even once mention Catholicism. In fact, the last paragraph you paraphrased actually reads as follows:

In 1895, the first 45 slaves were freed by the Italian colonial authority under the administration of the chartered company, V. Filonardi. Massive emancipation of slaves in Somalia only began after the antislavery activist Robecchi Bricchetti informed the Italian public about the slave trade in Somalia and the indifferent attitude of the Italian colonial government toward the trade. Slavery in southern Somalia lasted until early into the 20th century when it was abolished by the Italian colonial authority in accordance with the Belgium protocol. Some inland groups remained in slavery until the 1930s, however.

As can be seen above, it's all about the slave trade, not Catholicism. That is both off-topic & original research (OR) on your part, and OR is not permitted on Wikipedia. Again, please desist with this disruptive behavior. Middayexpress (talk) 05:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but what I wrote is not OR. I am adding my source for the first two paragraphs above: "Gresleri, G. Mogadiscio ed il Paese dei Somali: una identita negata. Marsilio editori. Venezia, 1993" --LittleTony (talk) 03:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, the Filonardi company was partially property of the Vatican. The conversion of slaves was done by catholic missionaries, mainly in the Genale and Villabruzzi, according to Tripodi (Tripodi, Paolo. The Colonial Legacy in Somalia. p. 66). I am going to revert, adding these references. Hope you'll agree. --LittleTony (talk) 03:55, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]