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Threads in this subheader shall not be archived because my botservant will be confused by this fake timestamp. –xeno^talk 04:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note to self - play around with this when time permits: User:Haza-w/Drop-down menus –xeno^talk 15:02, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Questions from...

Request..

Hey xeno,

I'd like to talk to you about something in confidence, and I'd prefer to keep it off the wiki. If you are willing to, please email me. (note, you will have to answer a captcha so internet crawlers don't spam me). Thanks

Tim1357--(what?...ohhh) 17:02, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and email me, xenowiki

gmail.com. –xeno^talk 20:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Email sent...Tim1357 (talk) 00:01, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Old articles...

Hey... I had an idea the other day, and I thought you and your army of bots might be able to help me out... If it's even possible... Is there any way to get a list of articles that were created (more than 5 years ago), and have had less than (a dozen edits) in their lifetime, and/or haven't had any new edits in (the last 2 years)? If so, I'm sure that number is in the thousands, so is there any way to then break said list down by year or month/year? I'm feeling a little Impish lately, and would like to see just how many of those articles would conform to today's guidelines and policies... - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like something you could request at WT:DBR. –xeno^talk 00:10, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

done... we'll see what they say... - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:01, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mes thinks at this point in time (or any points in time that extend back a few months), I am also wikiimpish. h and xeno do you ever sleep? You always appear to be online. 'The Ninjalemming'' 15:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My contribution history should show a regular gaps between 5 and 11 UTC. –xeno^talk 15:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing this means am, but does that mean my English times or your American times? England is something like nine hours behind (or is that ahead). Ether way that means you would have six hours sleep each day, or if this is pm and am it would be...along time, or am and pm which would also be...along time. My guess is yu don't sleep much and would rather be awake doing things _{lik meeeeee! =P} 'The Ninjalemming'' 16:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

24 hr UTC clock. –xeno^talk 16:51, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Un favor...por favor

Can I ask a favor. Delete this page User:Tarix of Tajun/Guestbook. A diffferent page exists that alread has his sigs, he created this page to satisfy the navbar i gave him. But I fixed the problem and swithed the guestbook link. This page is no longer needed so can you remove it. Please ask him first though. Thanks--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 16:51, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted it. In future you can just tell someone to add {{db-u1}} to the page. –xeno^talk 16:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shame on you, xeno. You forgot to ask Tarix himself. :P --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:57, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am teh rouge admin. –xeno^talk 16:59, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tut, tut. :D Weird. There was no edit conflict when I posted. My account is clearly magical. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NW: thanks

Thanks for [1] William M. Connolley (talk) 21:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I also had a question I left on the talk page [in a really old thread] - TTAPS is an unintroduced acronym... –xeno^talk 21:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh - I'd missed that. OK William M. Connolley (talk) 16:27, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, boys!

I'm back! --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 23:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know. Hopefully the so-called "wikivirus" shall not present itself anymore for you. Unless you decide to go back to the library, y'know, for old times sake. –xeno^talk 23:08, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(snorts) Sod that! The only times I'll go back there are for cheap print outs ~~and a different IP address to do illegal stuff on~~. Or if the bizarre cabling situation (don't ask, because I have no clue) collapses in on itself. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 23:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite sure what the rules are, so I'll ask. If I requested it (and I'm still deciding on that), could you block User:86.130.15.26. As the one and only contribution shows, it's my new IP address and I'm considering asking it to be indefinitely blocked to ensure I never accidentally use it to make contributions when I'm not logged in. What would the policies state about this? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 00:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably not a static IP (right?- you can reset your connection and get a new one) so we wouldn't block it indefinitely. I could block it for a few months at a time, I suppose... –xeno^talk 00:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would have no idea what it is. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 00:21, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like its probably a dynamic IP then. I would just leave it , really. There's some .css you can add to change the save button green when you're logged in, giving you a visual clue if you get logged out. (See User:Xeno/monobook.css). –xeno^talk 15:49, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take your word for that. I'll have a look at the .css in a second (though I'll probably be confused). On top of everything now, I've also discovered... wait for it... my pre-installed copy of Windows XP is not genuine. Same for Microsoft Office. The shop I got it from has had its owner vanish. I originally thought that it was family or medical trouble or something, but now I'm not so sure. Boy, things are looking up for me. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:53, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm baffled by the coding. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just add

INPUT#wpSave {
    background-color:#88ff88;
}

to your .css file (/vector.css or /monobook.css, etc.). As for the XP thing - shouldn't be too expensive to get a genuine version, what with XP being two iterations behind... –xeno^talk 15:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's sixty quid I haven't got right now and won't have until gone Christmas. Is this it? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you're using the monobook skin, yes. Then just WP:BYPASS your cache. –xeno^talk 16:13, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bypassed cache, using monobook. No change. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, wait. Never mind. You said logged in. I read logged out. Silly me. It works. I also e-mailed you about something entirely separate. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:20, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Specifics vs generalities

I understand that you are pointing to a theoretical rationale. But since you've taken time to review the case and comment, I'd really appeciate if you could offer me advice on my edits. Here's a link to my last 500 edits. Please let me know if you find anything disruptive there; I'd really like to learn of that and mend my editing patterns if they are indeed problematic. Thanks, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was more commenting on the deterrance needed for the past behaviour. If arbcom simply hands down some wrist-slaps, then other editors might decide that they too can maintain a private mailing list. –xeno^talk 17:40, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correct me if I am wrong, but are you saying that it doesn't matter what I did, but that for the greater good of the project an example should be made of me to discourage others? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:44, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Still speaking generally, if arbcom finds that editors have used off-wiki co-ordination to disrupt the project, then failing to sanction those editors may encourage similar disruptive behaviour on the part of others. I have not reviewed the case in full, and I have not reviewed your last 500 edits as you requested, I was only responding generally to the question 'why are blocks or bans needed?'. –xeno^talk 19:55, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see your logic; but I disagree with it. Such lists are usually well hidden in secrecy, and their discovery is a rare fluke (or a result of dedicated hacking... but let's not go in that avenue). I expect that the message being send to other mailing groups is not to disband, but to increase their security precautions :( I believe that such penalties will only radicalize editors further. What is needed is an approach to deradicalize them and engage them constructively. This is based not only on my personal experiences, but on research I've done into systems or repression and resistance. Harsh repressions have never eradicated the problem, they have only driven it more underground, created martyrs and encouraged sympatizers to become more radicalized (for a specific case, see for example one of the articles I've written, the Anti-partisan_operations_in_World_War_II#Against_the_Soviet_partisans - and look at the failure of German "cauldron" approach). The only way to break this cycle is by asking such groups to become open and responsible, rebuilding good faith on all sides. That's why I have for the last month proposed a series of reconciliation-focused remedies. PS. I will again ask you to look at my edits and tell me if you see anything that needs to be changed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

What is with all of these high profile socks and high profile restarters? It is really starting to get out of control. Is this the new fad? Should people start stock piling sock armies because there appears to be plenty that get revealed every day lately. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. I can't even keep track of who is who anymore. I must say, I'm starting to become disenchanted with the project. –xeno^talk 18:15, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the Mattisse stuff, there were at least 3 restart/sock accounts that were in the discussion furthering the battleground on both sides. Then there was that crazy Sparks persona. There are a few others too. I almost want there to be a confirmed editor only state just so that consensus can be achieved without all of the bs. I'm tired of the games. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, so many axes... The grinding becomes a cacophony... –xeno^talk 18:21, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]