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Segunda Division 2007-08

Tom, if you could suggest any improvements for the article Segunda División 2007-08 please do so. Thanks! User:Qampunen 7:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

UEFA Cup

I have no idea how to use the talk page, so i think its here? but anyway i've linked it in the talk discussion page of the main uefa cup page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fadiga09 (talkcontribs)

RE:Template:Welsh Premier League seasons

Sorry if you were wondering what was going on. I had problems with the templates and had to rename one as two templates were just duplicating themselves. I have ameded this now and there is now two season sections. One is League of Wales and the other is Welsh Premier League. Onshore

Although the league changed in 2002? Also I didn't try to delete the League of Wales seasons as it was in use until 2002. I had to change League of Wales seasons to League of Wales seasons (1992-2002) because it was duplicating the information with Welsh Premier League seasons Onshore

Okay fair point. Well it's now says "League of Wales / Welsh Premier League" hope you have no objections to this? and we'll leave it at that Onshore

So what is going to happen when the Welsh Premier League is split into two divisions in a few seasons from now? Onshore P.S. I'll leave the navbox as it is because at this rate it would have just blown out as a fude or something

Also Thank You for sorting out the caregories, it was taking me ages trying to change it to League of Wales :-) Onshore

Transfers

Hi. I was just wondering why you deleted my list of the 2007/08 Premier League highest transfers.


Ok no problem

Tottenham Hotspur

so why can't the badge be used...when in the club season football infobox there is a section labelled "logo =" and the description being "{{{logo}}} — The club logo."?

FC Shortcuts

Just a quick tip for you. The next time you wish to link a football club all you need to do is type {{fc|Team Name}} rather than the full name. I did that on the Derby County record. NoseNuggets (talk) 1:46 PM US EDT May 14 2008

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Happy First Day of Spring!

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Segunda Division 2007-08

Tom, if you could suggest any improvements for the article Segunda División 2007-08 please do so. Thanks! User:Qampunen 7:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

UEFA Cup

I have no idea how to use the talk page, so i think its here? but anyway i've linked it in the talk discussion page of the main uefa cup page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fadiga09 (talkcontribs)

RE:Template:Welsh Premier League seasons

Sorry if you were wondering what was going on. I had problems with the templates and had to rename one as two templates were just duplicating themselves. I have ameded this now and there is now two season sections. One is League of Wales and the other is Welsh Premier League. Onshore

Although the league changed in 2002? Also I didn't try to delete the League of Wales seasons as it was in use until 2002. I had to change League of Wales seasons to League of Wales seasons (1992-2002) because it was duplicating the information with Welsh Premier League seasons Onshore

Okay fair point. Well it's now says "League of Wales / Welsh Premier League" hope you have no objections to this? and we'll leave it at that Onshore

So what is going to happen when the Welsh Premier League is split into two divisions in a few seasons from now? Onshore P.S. I'll leave the navbox as it is because at this rate it would have just blown out as a fude or something

Also Thank You for sorting out the caregories, it was taking me ages trying to change it to League of Wales :-) Onshore

Transfers

Hi. I was just wondering why you deleted my list of the 2007/08 Premier League highest transfers.


Ok no problem

Tottenham Hotspur

so why can't the badge be used...when in the club season football infobox there is a section labelled "logo =" and the description being "{{{logo}}} — The club logo."?

FC Shortcuts

Just a quick tip for you. The next time you wish to link a football club all you need to do is type {{fc|Team Name}} rather than the full name. I did that on the Derby County record. NoseNuggets (talk) 1:46 PM US EDT May 14 2008

exactly

what do you mean what do you mean by exactly, i was agreeing you were right dipshit

Dr. Richard Hawkins

Hey Peejay, I've provided a link on the Manchester United discussion page. I was just browsing through the Sheffield United website and it stated that he left Sheff Utd to join Man Utd on March 9th 2008.

consulrjo 20:41 7 June 2008 (BST)

Tottenham Hotspur

Barcelona have confirmed that Giovani dos Santos has signed with Tottenham and will join the club on the 1st of July. Michael 7:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice job

You're doing a really fantastic job keeping the various Euro 2008-related articles up-to-date and clean. Keep it up! JACOPLANE • 2008-06-10 16:30

Fabio

I've been writing articles for 5 years on Wiki and that's not how I interpret the spirit of wiki - you will find lots of reserve team players on here so how do you justify this decision? Theo Walcott was a prime example and I could point out lots of examples

David Healy

What is wrong with the David Healy page of his international carrer if you merge it with the main page it makes the list longer.

last comment

'You should also realise that they didn't use the same formation in every match'. What am I supposed to know. my opinion is that scolari always used a 5-3-2 formation with Brazil and yet you criticize me for not knowing. I take it you are another one of the upper class snobs in wikipedia who claim to be right about everything.

formation for Brazil.

have a look at formation (association football) on wikipedia and have a look at 3-5-2 and you will see Brazil 2002 World Cup winner played it all the way throughout the tournament. Ronaldinho played as a central midfielder and Rivaldo played as a striker alongside Ronaldo and Cafu and Roberto Carlos played as wingers.

yep I was right about you. you are an arrogant upper class snob who claims to know everything like everyone on wikipedia. just because people get things wrong you like to put people down by showing off your arrogance.

enforcing policy!!!! why are u involved with people who want to make people be wrong all the time and writing u should do this and that and effectively saying ha you're wrong and I'm right and I am the best because I am a computer master with wikipedia who has got A's and B's in computer science or whatever and there is nothing u can do about it. why mate? why be involved with nasty people like that.

alplogy accepted. at least there is some decent human beings around.

PeeJay, we would like you to become a member of the Football Variants Taskforce of WikiProject Football.

Hello PeeJay, it is nice to meet you. I came across your page when I went through the list of people who had edited articles in this category about Football variants, and I wondered if you were intrested in joining a new taskforce that covers this category, as we are looking for members. Thank you for your time - DeMoN2009

Wembley Cup Final Templates

1968 European Cup Final
EventEuropean Cup 1962–63
Date29 May 1968
VenueWembley Stadium, London
1967
1969

I propose you use your template and you could replace these templates which are on Wembley Stadium (1923)

Every Wembley Cup Final should have this templete

I will go up the 1969 FA Cup Final at put in the details when I finish the job.

I have done 1923-1962 could you check the useless parts but keep the Wembley picture because it shows you the groud with the final.

I agree but when i get to the 2008 FA Cup Final it will be England v Wales.

Cardiff City v Portsmouth

CONCACAF U-20 Championship

Hey, I was trying to move CONCACAF Under-20 Championship to CONCACAF U-20 Championship since all of the yearly articles are titled 2009 CONCACAF U-20 Championship, etc. I was unable to because the title was on the "title blacklist." You know what the deal is with that?

Check this out

User:Drew R. Smith/game

Manchester United "diary of the season"

I have recorded the events of Manchester United seasons in the style of articles such as "years in the United Kingdom" as shown in the following link.[1]

Notice you where in a bit of a edit war on the 2009 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship, just wondering if you could point out where in the rules it forbiddes "live updating", have been in similare situation and wants something to fall back on or is WP:NOT#NEWS ok?. --> Halmstad, Charla to moi 22:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Thnx. --> Halmstad, Charla to moi 22:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Piqué

but why that but? all others estão FC Barcelona. Wherefore shift just a single? already we talk on the subject of that & they had he came a peace accord what barely the Henry remain Barcelona. I no has agreed to. FC Barcelona is the title of the club. Always is above mentioned with the FC ". Thus , owes continue being FC Barcelona.

About the FC Templates

For the record, ((subst:fc)) and ((fc)) are both one in the same. The second one is just a shortcut. NoseNuggets (talk) 7:42 PM US EDT Aug 12 2009.

Match details

West Ham United3 – 1 (a.e.t.)Millwall
Stanislas 87', 98' (pen.)
Hines 100'
Report Harris 26'
Attendance: 24,492
West Ham United
Millwall
WEST HAM UNITED:
GK 1 England Robert Green
DF 20 France Julien Faubert
DF 4 Wales Danny Gabbidon Yellow card
DF 30 Northern Ireland James Tomkins
DF 18 United States Jonathan Spector
MF 8 England Scott Parker Yellow card
MF 14 Czech Republic Radoslav Kováč downward-facing red arrow 62'
MF 31 Wales Jack Collison Yellow card
MF 35 England Josh Payne downward-facing red arrow 46'
FW 12 England Carlton Cole Yellow card
FW 46 England Junior Stanislas downward-facing red arrow 109'
Substitutes:
GK 28 Hungary Péter Kurucz
DF 15 England Matthew Upson upward-facing green arrow 109'
DF 19 Wales James Collins
DF 33 Switzerland Fabio Daprelà
MF 24 England Frank Nouble upward-facing green arrow 62'
MF 34 England Oliver Lee
FW 41 Jamaica Zavon Hines upward-facing green arrow 46'
Manager:
Italy Gianfranco Zola
MILLWALL:
GK 1 Wales David Forde
7 Republic of Ireland Alan Dunne
21 England Jack Smith
3 England Andy Frampton Yellow card
16 England Scott Barron Yellow card
12 England Chris Hackett
22 Ghana Ali Fuseini
24 Scotland Marc Laird Yellow card
11 England David Martin downward-facing red arrow 91'
CF 8 England Gary Alexander downward-facing red arrow 99'
CF 9 England Neil Harris downward-facing red arrow 99'
Substitutes:
GK 13 England John Sullivan
23 England Jason Price upward-facing green arrow 91'
4 England Adam Bolder upward-facing green arrow 99'
9 England Ashley Grimes upward-facing green arrow 99'
Manager:
England Kenny Jackett

MATCH OFFICIALS

MATCH RULES

  • 90 minutes.
  • 30 minutes of extra-time if necessary.
  • Penalty shoot-out if scores still level.
  • Seven named substitutes.
  • Maximum of three substitutions.

Matt Busby

What's the issue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.166.8.113 (talk) 06:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


"The issue is that we have no source for your assertion that Busby's heroes were Hughie Gallacher and Alex James. I've seen nothing about either of those two fellows in my books about Busby, except to say that they were also from Bellshill. Furthermore, all three men were born in the same decade, so to say that the two former were Busby's boyhood heroes is a bit of a stretch. – PeeJay 08:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)"

Would it not have been more constructive to leave a comment on the page concerned instead of so zealously changing the edits back? I have added a reference. Feel free to check it in your reading material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.166.8.113 (talk) 21:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


"that huge quote is unnecessary, especially as it only proves that Busby looked up to a couple of older boys from his village"

The quote was added in direct response to your comment above that dismissed Busby's boyhood admiration of the individiuals in question. An online reference was provided that cite the information as coming from Busby's 1973 autobiography.

Again instead of so zealously reverting out the quote, would it not be more constructive to have a better attempt? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.166.8.113 (talk) 10:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Once again the changed reverted out with no indication of a willingness to work with others? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.248.163.1 (talk) 21:55, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The comment above applies once again, reverting out edits with no attempt to team work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.166.8.113 (talk) 05:44, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, reverts of the same change again, still not interested in working with someone to try to improve things? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.166.8.113 (talk) 22:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Jim Lawlor, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Lawlor. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ClubOranjeT 10:17, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Martin Ferguson (football scout), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Ferguson (football scout). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ClubOranjeT 10:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I notice that a lot of your contributions have unfortunately been put up for deletion, I can relate. You may be interested in a wonderful group of editors who rescue articles by adding references and making articles more encyclopedic.

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For more information, please visit the project page, where you can >> join << and help rescue articles tagged for deletion and rescue. Ikip 07:49, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Football club names

Hi. I noticed that you undid my editing of Wolverhampton Wanderers, West Bromwich Albion and Queens Park Rangers. While I appreciate that we should use the full names wherever possible, if you view the articles in question you will clearly see that such long names wreck the appearance of the match score. I think the shortened versions are okay, and since they are linked to the article on the club, there shouldn't really be any confusion. Do you agree?

RednessInside (talk) 18:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah.....that's better, sorry man! RednessInside (talk) 18:37, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Darren Ferguson

Please stop reverting clearly referenced additions to the above article. I will revert the article with even more references, including the 'Daily Mail' in the next short while. It is a clearly referenced fact that Ferguson is being linked to the Reading job. Mycroft (talk) 12:34, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise for the tone of the above message, it can just be frustrating when stuck in a bit of a 'revert war' Mycroft (talk) 15:09, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The translator strikes again

Hi there PEEJAY, VASCO here, hope all's fine with you,

Once again, as the title says, i merely convey the request of User:Picolotto, nothing else. He says that, no matter what name is written on his jersey, Sergio Busquets is widely known by his last name, not his first.

In my humble opinion, i also think it is that way, as in many televised matches i have seen, the player is referred to as BUSQUETS, not SERGIO. However, if he has expressed the desire to be addressed to as SERGIO (Picolotto did not tell me anything of the sorts), i'll just shut "my bloody mouth" :) and end of discussion...

Well, that's all for the moment, message delivered. Wishing you a brilliant 2010 and a happy XMAS (in no necessary order!!),

VASCO, Portugal - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 17:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Parentheses in Match Results

You seem to have taken it upon yourself to revert many of the various edits I have been making to FIFA World Cup articles in the recent weeks. And while we are working out one of our disagreements on the talk page of WP:Football, this topic is to discuss the use of parentheses surrounding "Report" in the footballbox and footballbox_collapsible templates.

I have tried to make the point throughout my edits that I have been following the same general format that I have found in other football match results, and inasmuch I have been acting in good faith. Additionally, you seem to have been making the argument that the style I was looking at was unfounded and needed to be corrected. Accordingly, I have given you several sources as to where else within Wikipedia I have found examples of the style I have been trying to emulate. These are by and large articles that you have worked on in the past and seem to have found no complaints about until such time as I made their particular style known to you. Additionally, I have tried to find examples of the style towards which you have directed me, and so far I have been unable to locate any, or any generally-established community policy that would lend credence to your arguments.

Finally, though, and with particular respect to the footballbox template, I have delved into the template's edit history, and I have discovered that contrary to your claim in an edit note, that the non-use of parentheses in match results has been standard practice for "several years" now, the reverse has actually been true throughout the history of the template, since the inclusion of the "report" parameter. Furthermore, I discovered that such use was supported by your edits (and lack of documentation on the talk page for policy reversal) as late as 30 October of this current year, which additionally postdates my first edit to the template's documentation page.

Therefore, the only conclusion that I can come to regarding your edits on this particular topic are that they are essentially disruptive in nature, and not conductive to the operation of Wikipedia as an encyclopedia. Accordingly, I would ask that you please cease your edits to the end of the topic immediately until such time as you and I can resolve our differences regarding this issue. As for myself, I will similarly cease my edits on this topic until a resolution can be decided, with the exception of undoing your recent edits to eliminate the proof of my position on the matter. Again, I hope that we can come to swift and civil resolution of this matter between ourselves as editors, however, if you prove this to be impossible, I will not hesitate to take this matter of your disruptive editing to the formal dispute resolution process.

Otherwise, I hope again that we can come to an amicable solution here, and I hope to hear your position soon. cassius1213 03:14, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

I apologize if the thrust of my previous argument was unclear. I do understand that the template documentation is a reflection of the generally-accepted usage of the template in articles; in my previous argument, I was merely citing the state of that same documentation as proof that there was a previously-established standard which you seem to have changed recently out of whim. In my opinion, the belief that a single editor believes that the particular punctuation in question is superfluous is insufficient to change the status quo of years of established usage. Additionally, though, I did look at the recent editions of the articles that you mentioned in your post to me, and indeed for the past season in most cases and the past two to three seasons in a few others, the use of parentheses around the "report" link to the match report seems to have ended. However, once you delve past the recent few seasons in each of those competitions, the established punctuation standard is to include those parentheses. Thus, the overarching question in my mind is whether to continue the use of an established standard that represents the overwhelming majority of relevent articles, or to instead change to a new arbitrary standard for which the arguments in favor are not particularly inspiring. Accordingly, in my opinion it would be simpler, easier, and more in line with established practice to edit the articles that you have mentioned to include the particular parenthesesen. Finally, as to the quite separate issue of whether or not to include red cards in match results, it seemed to me to be a substantial question that had not been specifically dealt with by the community at-large, and that is why I posited it to them as a seperate question. In any case, though, thank you for the apology as to your methods in the past, and I would like to similarly apologize if my methods have come of as belligerent as well. I hope that we can continue to work through these issues together and collaboratively. cassius1213 08:24, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like to thank you for raising some excellent points and for putting the onus of the argument back onto me. As for my reason in favor of including the parentheses in question, it is simple and singular: the additional punctuation, while it may seem unncessary and superfluous to some people, in my opinion helps to increase the readability of the information. The parentheses help to render the "report" link as a distinctive piece of information, and help to keep it from being glossed over by the passing eye. In effect, the parentheses act as a form of typographical blocking, similarly to the Guildford Rules for road signs in Britain (but in this case substituting typographical elements for contrasting colors). Removing the parentheses, in my opinion, reduces the readibility of the link by giving the eye one fewer piece of design information with which to "latch upon". Again, though, all of this is only my opinion, and if you don't agree, perhaps we should pose this as another community discussion, since neither one of us seems to be able to locate the original discussion regarding it. cassius1213 09:23, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi - do you intend to make this article live? Some of the player names need tweaking and it needs referencing, but otherwise it looks good to go. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:43, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1972 CHARITY SHIELD. GREETINGS. JUST CURIOUS... IN WHAT WAY WAS OUR 'EDIT' WRONG ? AFTER ALL, THE CRITERIA FOR THE SHIELD MATCH WAS BY THEN FIXED (AS IT REMAINS SO), AND DCFC/LUFC SHOULD SURELY HAVE COMPETED ? AVFC/MCFC WON NO QUALIFYING SILVERWARE THAT YEAR. IS THERE SOMETHING, A SNIPPET OF GOSSIP ?, WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT ? ROBERT TAGGART (talk) 01:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Be constructive

Mate, you've already recognized 2009 UEFA Champions League Final as a pattern to be followed... I see no flags for the Man of the match in the box, not even those large ones before line-ups. So, why do you keep contradicting yourself? Quit this nonsense and be constructive. 189.24.146.199 (talk) 02:22, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]