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Orphaned references in Telephone (song)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Telephone (song)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "billboard.com":

  • From Sweet Dreams (Beyoncé Knowles song): "Music News, Reviews, Articles, Information, News Online & Free Music". Billboard.com. Retrieved 2009-11-30.
  • From Until the End of Time (Justin Timberlake song): Justin Timberlake - Billboard Artist Chart History

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 15:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is an unreleased song

Right, you guys expect me everytime to make the Alejandro page, yet you all turn it into a redirect, this hasn't been confirmed as a single. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.199.115 (talk) 19:16, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Telephone has charted on several national music charts. See WP:NSONG about Notability of Albums, singles and songs. SunCreator (talk) 19:44, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Single

This song has been confirmed as a single (here [1]) and the page should be changed. 121.221.166.195 (talk) 11:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Single Cover

http://ariacharts.com.au/pages/images/telephone.jpg

They are not a good source for covers. They use often fan made covers from Coverlandia. http://coverlandia.blogspot.com/2009/11/lady-gaga-telephone-fanmade-single.html --It's Flo (talk) 11:10, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Release Date

This song has been released on the radios =S I heard it on CHUM FM [Toronto, Canada] this morning, it was one of their 'new songs of the week' o_o Bad Romance just came out a month and a half ago... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.3.85 (talk) 04:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yea seriously, I have it on my iPhone.. why does it say Jan 2010? A8UDI 20:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
its also being played here in aus : http://www.fox.com.au/shows/hot30/vote--61.68.173.132 (talk) 23:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Telephone_(song)&oldid=331446043 the date is correctly listed as December 2, 2009.  AcroX  00:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why does it say the original guest vocalist was going to be Britney Spears? The cited source, Popjustice, only says that "The guest vocalist on this was going to be someone else, but then the guest vocalist wanted to put the song on her own greatest hits album, so Lady Gaga made alternative arrangements." Saying that it was Britney is a little WP:OR-ish. --12345abcxyz20082009 (talk) 23:40, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Beyonce chronology

There is no guideline saying that whatever singer is included in a song gets their chronology in the infobox. Since this song is Lady Gaga featuring Beyonce and was released as a Lady Gaga single, not a Beyonce single, Beyonce should not have her chronology in the infobox. Doing so implies that the song was released as a single by Beyonce as well, hence "Beyonce singles chronology" which is incorrect. The same is true for Beyonce's song "Video Phone". It is Beyonce featuring Lady Gaga. Gaga did not release the song as her single so it cannot be listed as a single in the chronology section. Also consider that both artists have not included each other's songs on their own albums and this is because they are only featured. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 03:24, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh a little something to be considered here. "Video Phone" doesnot credit Gaga in any way, except for a remix. The original version is the one based on which the article is made. This is like saying "LoveGame" features Marilyn Mansen. On the other hand "Telephone" is being billed as Lady Gaga & Beyonce, more than a featured artist. Hence I definitely think that Beyonce's chronology should be here in this article, but Gaga should be removed from "Video Phone" as she is not billed there. --Legolas (talk2me) 03:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The key is in "featured" which is widely reported by sources. It is not a duet where each artist contributes in the same manner. It is a song by Lady Gaga with some additional vocals by Beyonce. If Beyonce chooses to release the song as her own single then sure adding her chronology is fine, but as of now it is only Lady Gaga's single. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 04:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Beyonce will be equally credited for the song, if for eg this tops the Hot 100. Hence even f she is featured, commercially speaking she will get teh accolades for the song nonetheless. Its the same like "Live Your Life", 10000000 of Timbaland's songs, Jay-Z's 10000000 of featured appearances as well as 100000 of T-pain's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Legolas2186 (talk • contribs) 23:07 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Getting credit here isn't the problem. It is labeling it as a single. It's a single, but not Beyonce's. We cannot have the infobox saying it is one of Beyonce's single because she did not release it as such. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The single was released as "Lady Gaga featuring Beyonce", so that's why Beyonce's chronology is included in the infobox. Including Beyonce's chronology isn't saying that it's actually her single... Featured artists' chronologies are always on infoboxes. Examples: 4 Minutes (Madonna song) Déjà Vu (Beyoncé Knowles song) Bartender (T-Pain song) Hard (song) Can't Believe It I'm on a Boat Give It to Me (Timbaland song) Jump (Flo Rida song) Me Against the Music and much more.  AcroX  01:11, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just because there are other instances does not mean it is right. There is no guideline that says any singer in who appears in a song gets their chronology on the page. The title for the chronology clearly says "Beyonce singles chronology". We simply cannot have it because it does not make sense. Beyonce did not release the song as a single, Lady Gaga did, so how is it a "Beyonce single"?!?. If you add it to the infobox then you also must go to Beyonce's discography page and add it and its chart positions to her singles section because that is exactly what you are implying by having her chronology on the song's page. If Beyonce wants to have the song on her album and release it herself, then by all means add it, but that is not what is going on here. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 01:26, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It already is on her discography, though.  AcroX  01:37, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's not under singles, it's under as featured artist... If you make the chronology say "Beyonce featured songs chronology" then that is fine, but it is not a Beyonce single and cannot stay saying that. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 02:03, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion will be a case of WP:WAX because changing the norm in this article should imply a change of 1000's of other articles. A better solution is to post this discussion at the wP:SONGS project talk and reach a consensus there. --Legolas (talk2me) 05:18, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Any further comments should be made here on the WikiProject Songs talk page. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

promo

there was a promo of Telephone that i saw on the internet. we should list that--Morgan3136 (talk) 03:26, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

yes we need a little bit more than that? like a tracklisting, or even a reference :)Im not suprised becuase it's on the radio and there has got to be a promo out by now. but we need a reference--Apeaboutsims (talk) 03:32, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UK Release

The source provided is radio1.gr (considered unreliable) NOT BBC Radio 1. Therefore it has been removed. Dt128 let's talk 17:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No source!

Additionally, the guest vocalist was originally going to be Spears, but when Spears wanted to put the song on her own greatest hits album, Gaga made alternative arrangements and made Knowles the featured vocalist instead.

Please remove it!
moved an unsigned comment per "Put new text under old text." —Iknow23 (talk) 23:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This single has not been confirmed..

In the LEAD, it states that the song is the second single from the album. This has not been confirmed. There is no coverage to verify such. There was a 'chartifacts' published by ARIA on November 30 stating it was but I think a better source is required. Perhaps because it was receiving mass airplay on Australian radio stations, they said that. • вяαdcяochat 11:14, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A number of reviews, media sources reportedly said that this was decided as the second single long back. However, I admit the ARIA source needs to be updated as it is invalid now. According to sources, Gaga is creating a music video with Beyonce for the song, so I believe it is indeed releasing as a single. --Legolas (talk2me) 11:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Music Video

Is there any proof that Lady GaGa is creating a video for the single?? There's only been confirmation for the video of Alejandro, the NEXT single in line... 86.3.254.48 (talk) 00:23, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Laurie Ann Gibson, the person whochoreographed LoveGame & Paparazzi confirmed on her twitter that she would do a video with Gaga & Beyonce; http://twitter.com/BoomKack --TheRevolution7 (talk) 17:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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