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A fact from Rebecca Adlington appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 August 2008, and was viewed approximately 2,800 times (disclaimer) (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Rebecca Adlington, British Olympic Gold swimmer, went to The Brunts School?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2008/August.

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Nickname

Is this really an appropriate/necessary piece of information? It seems a bit trivial to me - I would take it out, personally. What do other people think? John Smith's (talk) 14:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree , is a common nickname for Rebeccas in general, rather than being anything specific to her. Also, I have yet to see her referred to by her nickname in any media coverage, so it is I'm fine with Rebecca being referred to as English. However, if you want her referred to as English I expect your support when I edit the pages of Scottish Olympians who are referred to as British. Personally, I'm very much in favour of referring to people in the UK based on the region they are from. I would like other people's thoughts on this, however, as there is a startling lack of consistency. 92.235.56.88 (talk) 03:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should also be noted that Rebecca's description was only changed after she won the gold medal. That, to me, indicates agenda pushing. I want consistency across the board when oit comes to British people. Others seemingly only want individuals referred to as British or English when it suits them. 92.235.56.88 (talk) 03:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

She is, of course, both. I have, though, changed it to British as she was representing GB team and it already says she's from Mansfield, England in the previous sentence.--DavidCane (talk) 03:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with David's position. She swims primarily for GB, as Scots will do too. Yes, there's Commonwealth Games but that's the only time they get split up. John Smith's (talk) 17:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See majority of British swimmer articles Category:British swimmers - majority of them have have the nationality in the lede as that of their home nation. Why should Adlington's article be different? It's quite clear in the infobox that the swimmer represents the United Kingdom. The governance of sport of swimming in the United Kingdom is devolved into the three home nation governing bodies, so since, for example, Adlington is a member of the ASA (in England), surely it is quite appropriate write "English swimmer" in the lede. Yboy83 (talk) 20:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Chris Hoy is a Scottish cyclist, then. 92.235.56.88 (talk) 02:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yboy83 what you say is true but does not mean its right. These article leads are often like that due to you . ARBAY TALKies 21:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article is classed as a "start". She is a double gold olympic winner! She deserves a GA article. We should stop arguing over one word and contribute something Victuallers (talk) 23:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dame RA?

The entry talks about the media. Wasn't it first jokingly suggested by her team-mate after the 800m? I think this needs to be changed, or at least properly cited to show that the media has been calling for this. John Smith's (talk) 17:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't remember who said it might be on the cards, but its was speculated on after the 400 m race on the BBC.--DavidCane (talk) 18:41, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If there's no citation then we should pull it for now. Besides, the BBC is not the entire media. John Smith's (talk) 21:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An anonymous user has removed some of this with the comment that its hearsay. Actually the words said "it had been suggested" ... it was! and a ref was supplied. Whether you think this was a serious suggestion is a matter of debate .... but only if the suggestion is included. Can the anon user please log in and discuss ? Victuallers (talk) 10:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The suggestion was indeed by her teammate, and the ref provided says that it was backed up by the Mayor of Mansfield, presumably desperately trying to get coverage for her home town. As such, I don't think it's worth including. If a more concerted campaign is organised then that would be worthy of a mention. Dancarney (talk) 12:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a browse and can't find any genuine talk of giving Adlington a Dame-hood(?), so I'll remove this. Dancarney (talk) 13:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to the news of Radio 4 tonight the Prime Minister has promised to "shower" Britain's Olympians with honours and it was specified that Rebecca Adlington would be appointed a dame (I assume this means DBE) and that a man (I have no idea who - somebody who has won three gold medals, I think) is going to be appointed a knight (again, most probably knight bachelor), and that other athletes will be appointed CBE, OBE, or MBE. On the other hand, I really have doubts as to whether this is just idle speculation. Certainly it seems to be to be rather ridiculous to think that a nineteen-year-old will be appointed a dame for winning two Olympic gold medals. Tanni Grey-Thompson, by contrast, had won six medals, including four golds, before she became even an MBE and by the time she was appointed a dame she had won 16 medals, including 11 gold, and had shown her services to society in a much wider sense than merely winning things. HM Government is just jumping on a bandwagon of media hype over Britain's unexpectedly impressive performance. Of course, Rebecca Adlington is a much more suitable candidate for the relatively minor honour of a DBE (as I'm sure it would be) than Prince William is to receive the great honour of the Order of the Garter, but that's what you have to expect from a monarchy.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 00:05, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone object ...

... to this article going on did you know? I must admit I thought I'd find this article to be huge! Victuallers (talk) 13:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC) Insert non-formatted text here[reply]

I don't. Calebrw (talk) 15:22, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adlington Arms

Apparently a public house is to be renamed The Adlington Arms. Does she even have a coat of arms? Surely when a public house is called The X Arms it is because it displays X's coat of arms. Hence The King's Arms displays the arms of the king in whose reign it was established. I only ask because most people don't have a coat of arms - I don't, for example - and so I wonder what image the proprietors plan to display if she doesn't. Of course, maybe they have already ascertained that she is entitled to bear arms. In that case, it would be nice to have a representation of the arms on the article.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 08:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's just the name of a pub, it doesn't actually have to display the Adlington Coat of Arms, even if it does exist. Dancarney (talk) 10:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

True, it doesn't have to display the arms (though generally The X Arms does display the arms), but if the arms do not exist it seems rather silly to name a pub after them. Why not 'The Rebecca Adlington', like 'The George Canning'?--193.39.212.172 (talk) 14:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

boy

I removed "Her boyfriend is Andy Mayor, another swimmer."^{[citation needed]} ... and is this important? Victuallers (talk) 21:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Adlington

Clarification needed as to whether Terry is Rebecca's grandfather or great uncle. Alternatively, delete references to Terry. Tim P (talk) 21:28, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Miracle

It is even a miracle that Adlington is able to swim, I mean let's face, you wouldn't think she could keep her mouth shut long enough could you! Wikipeacekeeper (talk) 11:15, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]