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Article expansion

[expansion requested] Ridiculously short amount of information on very notable vocalist. A google search for Tony has Wikipedia as the fourth site. ErikNY 20:48, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm starting to work on the requested expansion. Wasted Time R 16:11, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Done with the first pass through. Still needs refinement. Discography has lots of holes, Songs section needs work if still necessary, books need full biblio but the bulk of the story is hopefully there. Have taken off the expansion and stub markers. Wasted Time R 01:50, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I added images. I decided the Songs section was hopeless, and just added references to the two that weren't already mentioned, into the main section. I moved the (currently quite partial) discography to its own article, since if done right it will be very long. Wasted Time R 03:39, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

First name

151.205.117.118 keeps changing Bennett's original first name to Antonio, but it is definitely Anthony. On page 98 of his autobiography The Good Life, he states that his name is "Anthony Dominick Benedetto". Moreover, on page 14 there's a picture of him and his two siblings as small children, and a parent scrawled "Mary John and Anthony" on it. Wasted Time R 23:25, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image

It's a pity we can't get a better/bigger image. On checking the image details, it is described as a low-res scan from an album cover. I can't see any problem with fair use in this instance, and maybe we can go a bit bigger? After all, the article contains several scans of entire album covers. --Surgeonsmate 00:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date format

Best practice is to wikify dates into the format [[20 January]] [[2001]] or [[January 20]] [[2001]] because this displays dates to the reader in their preferred format. The examples above would both display as 20 January 2001 to a reader with British preferences set. And January 20, 2001 to a reader with U.S. preferences (the default). See how these look to you:

20 January 2001 displays as 20 January 2001
[[20 January]], 2001 displays as 20 January, 2001
[[20 January]] 2001 displays as 20 January 2001
[[20 January]], [[2001]] displays as 20 January, 2001
[[20 January]] [[2001]] displays as 20 January 2001
January 20, 2001 displays as January 20, 2001
[[January 20]] 2001 displays as January 20 2001
[[January 20]], 2001 displays as January 20, 2001
[[January 20]], [[2001]] displays as January 20, 2001
[[January 20]] [[2001]] displays as January 20 2001

We don't need to wikilink subsequent appearences of the same year when they are just a year, or even a month and year. But full dates should be wikified, if for no other reason than to display that comma for U.S. readers. See WP:MOSDATE --Surgeonsmate 00:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just tested the dates preferences setting, and in "European" mode the next-to-last entry does get changed into 20 January 2001, which is what is wanted. So it looks to me that your formulation and mine both work in this respect, and I would claim that the version with the comma is slightly easier to read in pure edit form. Wasted Time R 03:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whether it appears easier to read or not is a matter of what you are personally used to. Wikified dates work the same whether there is a comma or not. The comma is therefore superfluous. --Surgeonsmate 04:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Antonia Bennett

As someone deleted her page when consensus was 'keep', I am puttling the cached Google version of her page in case anyone wants to work some of the information in on her dad's page. Never heard of her before, so not worth my effort to start her page again... (NOTABILITY NOTE: she did win an award.) Icarus 23 16:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Antonia Bennett (born Antonia Benedetto, April, 1978) is an American popular music and jazz singer, daughter of legendary singer Tony Bennett.

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Background
According to her website, Bennett has been performing alongside her father since she was four. She graduated from the Berklee College of Music in Boston.

In a review of the show in The New York Times, Bennett's performance was described as, "conjures echoes of Billie Holiday and Ricki Lee Jones, with a hint of Betty Boop."[1]

In 2005, she was the recipient of the David Award for entertainment, presented by the Italo-American National Union to promising young Italian-Americans

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References
Official Antonia Bennett music website 
Official Tony Bennett music website 
^ CABARET REVIEW; A Rhythm-and-Blues Man Croons to the Cocktail Crowd" New York Times, February 8, 2002 
www.WhiteHouse.com Dec 4, 2005 - Washington DC - Antonia Bennett a guest at the White House with President Bush, Tony Bennett, Robert Redford, and Tina Turner. 
9/21/2003 Antonia Bennett sings on The Regis & Kelly Show - New York City 
7/24/2000 The Today Show - New York City 

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Controversy?

Should this article mention Bennett's recent comments that America has given nothing to the world except jazz and Alcoholics Anonymous?Politician818 02:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cite? Wasted Time R 12:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Sinatra HS reference missing

I noticed there is no reference to Tony Bennett establishing the Frank Sinatra School of the Arts a performing arts school in New York City. Could someone please add one? Thanks.Justin Tokke 03:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's there, near the end. You just missed it. Wasted Time R 10:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Colbert

I know protecting is not used preventively but given Colbert's character outrage last year with Barry Manilow's Emmy win, there should be extra watchlisting of this article and protecting if necessary. 128.227.27.64 04:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed source

I removed a citation about Bennett's military experiences because the source was a brief profile at a military portal not meeting WP:RS for the information it was supporting. The info in the article needs to be removed or better sourced, which I will try to do. Does anyone have any immediate better sources for this info? Thanks. Flowanda | Talk 05:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the cite with a 2006 Tavis Smiley interview, and reworded the text to better match what Bennett says. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, you're quick! And what 100x better source and resource for this already great article.Flowanda | Talk 17:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not the place for biography

This is meant to be an encyclopedia, not a fan-site. The article isn't neutral enough and delivers too much praise. Also, avoid using headers like "A growing success" and "Looking ahead to the future" or whatever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.122.32 (talk) 11:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what "Not the place for biography" means. This is a biography of a living person, per WP:BLP. It reflects the balance of praise and criticism that other WP:RSes show towards Bennett; like it or not, most published accounts of his life and his music are favorable towards him. Are there any specific biographical or musical points that you feel has been omitted, that you think would make the article more neutral? Please say what they are, as it's hard to discuss neutrality complaints without having specific details. As for the headers, they are there because they give the reader an immediate sense of the narrative arc of Bennett's career. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed- In the sentence describing that TB developed a drug addiction, I took out the parenthetical that many musicians developed drug habits. It was unnecessary editorial context that turned a fact into an excuse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.15.223 (talk) 19:32, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What´s the point of this picture?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/TonyBenettKimmelCenter2.JPG
More than 3/4 is just a black nothing, it´s completely out of focus and where supposed to be a face of Bennett, is just a big white blur. Sorry, but this picture is of no use for the article and is wasting traffic on the wikipedia-servers every time someone loads this article. --93.133.206.65 (talk) 04:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]