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Deep biasness from an editor
The conversation is transcluded from WP talk:GAN. I want the help of my fellow editors and reviewers here to stop this biased madness. Please help.
Just yesterday I nominated the article "Paparazzi (Lady Gaga song)" under music for GA. However, an editor who was involved in a previous dispute of the article, User:Piano non troppo suddenly chimed in and started reviewing the article. His main intention is to fail the article and hence is claiming in short that "the article is a pile load of shit". I request my fellow GA reviewrs here to request him to step down from his biased review and let a reviewer not associated with the article come and review it. He should be warned against actions like this. --Legolas (talk2me) 03:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- I have placed notes about this on the review page and the other editor's talk page and I am prepared to undertake the review if they step down. Otherwise, it may be appropriate to take to WP:GAR if there is a dispute about the review. Jezhotwells (talk) 03:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- Piano non troppo is vehemently being aggressive regarding this article and it totally shows from the comments on his talk page that he is reviewing the article with the intention of failing it. And whether the dispute was regarding the external links or not, he was involved in editing the aricle and he should not review it. As the nominater of the article I frankly refuse to accept a review by such a biased and aggressive editor who doesnot carry any good faith. I call for a community evaluation and will raise a request at GAR. --Legolas (talk2me) 06:04, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Please complete Megalon GAR
In summer 2009 I found the GA review for Megalon was faulty and raised a GAR, and LeGenD has a lot of work to improve the article. In late December 2009 I had an operation, and am not fit to continue as the reviewer. We'd both be grateful if an other reviewer could complete the review. --Philcha (talk) 11:58, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- Actually the intended referred article is Megalodon. Here is the talk page for details. This article has been vastly improved from its previous GA review state to resolve new issues pointed out by member Philcha. --LeGenD (talk) 05:36, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Another GA Sweeps update
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Thanks to everyone's efforts to the GA Sweeps process, we are currently over 95% done with around 130 articles left to be swept! Currently there are over 50 members participating in Sweeps, that averages out to about 3 articles per person! We are open to any new members who would like to help us complete the remaining articles, so if you're interested in helping, please see the main page. If each member reviews an article once a week this month (or several!), we'll be completely finished. At that point, awards will be handed out to reviewers. Per my message last month, although we did not review 100 articles last month, I still made a donation of $90 (we had 90 reviews completed/initiated) to Wikipedia Forever on behalf of all GA Sweeps reviewers. I would like to thank everyone's efforts for last month, and ask for additional effort this month so we can be finished. I know you guys have to be sick of seeing these updates by now. Again, when Sweeps is completed, more reviewers will be able to spend time in reviewing GANs to assist with the backlog. If you have any questions about reviews or Sweeps let me know and I'll be happy to get back to you. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 02:22, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Mandatory notification
I've made a proposal that notifications for good article reassessment be made mandatory here. Lambanog (talk) 03:50, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
help
I do not know how to do this but could someone nominate American civil war? That article has many problems as underlined on the talkpage. It is incomplete and doesn't show the full scope and impacts/causes of it, only major battles. 198.188.150.134 (talk) 20:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- If you believe that the article has "many problems" that compromise its GA listing then you have to make your case at WP:GAR, where you will find instructions on how to do it. --Malleus Fatuorum 20:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't have the energy to nominate it myself but I believe it definitely needs to be reviewed. The article does not mention the aftermath of the war, which is by far the most important aspect of the civil war, nor the long term causes. Any reviewer should catch these errors, may i please ask that you file this report for me? 198.188.150.134 (talk) 08:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- I see a Victory and aftermath section, and I also see that this article passed a GA review a little over a year ago, and is rated A-class by the Military History project. I see little grounds for requesting a review, but if you do then why not raise the issue either on the article's talk page or with the Military History Project. They will have the interest and expertise to help you. --Malleus Fatuorum 12:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Instructions for requesting a milhist A-Class reappraisal can be found here. Normally we only accept such requests from a registered editor in good standing, but you are welcome to raise any issues you have on the milhist talk page here. EyeSerenetalk 17:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Template matters
If an editor places a {{subst:GAR}}
template on an article talk page and initiates an individual re-assessment, clciking on the individual assessment link creates a new page [[Talk:''Article name''/GA''x'']] where x is the number of the page. However at the top of the article the text A good article from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Currently undergoing a good article reassessment. where good artcile reassessment links to Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/''Article name''/''x'' which is where a community reassessment would be listed. Can this be fixed in some way? –– Jezhotwells (talk) 22:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- As far as I know these article headers were never discussed with GA, FA or WikiProjects. They are unreliable and frequently out-of-date. I have never supported them, and will not do so until the editors responsible communicate and address the concerns of the community. If you can figure out who they are and call them to account, please do so. Geometry guy 23:01, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- Please direct comments to: User:Pyrospirit/metadata... or never mind, I'll do it. But that's where they come from, for future reference. • Ling.Nut 02:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- The article headers come from a script (currently also a gadget) that I started maintaining a while back, mostly to fix bugs and clean up the code, and also to add features (usually when people asked for them to be added). The headers shouldn't be unreliable unless there's a bug that I haven't heard about or if the format of the templates has changed, but the information the script displays is pretty limited. If you think that it shouldn't be as visibly promoted, go ahead and start a discussion about removing it from the gadgets page, which is how most of its users have it installed.
- I've been very busy with college recently, so I haven't been paying much attention to Wikipedia. I don't really care about the script either way; I personally find it useful as an easy way of seeing at a glance what level of development an article is at, but I understand that some people might misinterpret the information as being more authoritative or precise than it really is.
- Also, the templates relating to good article reassessments are tricky to parse if I remember correctly, so I wouldn't be surprised if the link isn't always right. I could entirely remove the GA reassessment links if that's what people want. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 04:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone wants it removed. Folks can opt out by declining to check (or tick, if you're British) the relevant box in gadgets. ... The problem is that the link it displays is a redlink; wrong address. • Ling.Nut 05:33, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, could you link me to an article where this happens? Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:11, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Certainly, African American culture links to WP:Good article reassessment/African American culture/1, but the reassessment is at Talk:African American culture/GA1, and Burger King links to WP:Good article reassessment/Burger King/1, but the reassessment is at Talk:Burger King/GA1. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:20, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Now I remember what the problem is. This script works by parsing the wikitext of the first section of the talk page; for GA reassessments, that looks something like this:
{{GAR/link|11:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)|page=1|GARpage=1|status=onhold }}
Unfortunately, there seems to be no way to determine whether it's on a subpage of Wikipedia:Good article reassessment or on a subpage of the article's talk page. Anyone have any suggestions for what to do about this? Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 19:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Now I remember what the problem is. This script works by parsing the wikitext of the first section of the talk page; for GA reassessments, that looks something like this:
- Certainly, African American culture links to WP:Good article reassessment/African American culture/1, but the reassessment is at Talk:African American culture/GA1, and Burger King links to WP:Good article reassessment/Burger King/1, but the reassessment is at Talk:Burger King/GA1. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:20, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, could you link me to an article where this happens? Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:11, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone wants it removed. Folks can opt out by declining to check (or tick, if you're British) the relevant box in gadgets. ... The problem is that the link it displays is a redlink; wrong address. • Ling.Nut 05:33, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Please direct comments to: User:Pyrospirit/metadata... or never mind, I'll do it. But that's where they come from, for future reference. • Ling.Nut 02:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
(undent) Erm, hard code the "Talk:", append the article name, hard code the "/GA", read the +"page=" bit and append the value after the equal signs...? Just a thought.• Ling.Nut 16:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for helping out here Ling, but I'm not sure that answers the question of distinguishing individual from community reassassments.
- In fact, {{GAR/link}} has to solve the same problem and this is the algorithm it uses (I hope I get this right, as I coded it!): if the community reassessment page given by "GARpage=" exists, link to it; otherwise, if the individual reassessment page given by "page=" exists, link to it; otherwise provide a message inviting editors to start one of these two nonexistent pages.
- Hence the script would have to do something similar: test for the existence of the pages it intends to link to. Geometry guy 22:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- That's a pretty inelegant way to go about doing it (it'll mean making two requests rather than one on the page), but I suppose there's no other way. At least this will only be necessary on a small fraction of pages. I'll see what I can put together. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 23:15, 27 March 2010 (UTC)