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Vandalism

This article has been receiving prolonged vandalism from the IP 219.44.212.11, I recommend further action to keep this article safe from this user and other anonymous users. Is there an option to make this article only editable from authenticated users? --Sc0ttkclark (talk) 04:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

== Unsupported Controversial and Highly Dubious Claims==

Controversial claims must be supported by appropriate citations and references. The dubious claims made in the questionable sections of "Edd Byrnes" are not supported by appropriate citations or references. There is nothing to substantiate the unlikely claim that Edd Brynes needed to rehearse which letters were vowels and which were consonants, and in any event, this is not relevant in a biographical entry focusing on the American actor's career. Who are these "game show fans" and "some sites" alluded to? The cited newspaper article does not say that Edd threatened to sue Edward Burns, and in any case the fact that a newspaper columnist alleged that he did does make it true. Additionally, there is no link to the alleged newspaper reports about Edd's alleged behavior at some alleged autograph signing get together. The "references" provided DO NOT substantiate any of the dubious claims made. Moreover, Wikipedia is not the place to express one's personal grudges or act out psychological problems.

I suggest that a competent administrator take a look at this problem. Mandudeguy (talk) 08:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

== Wikipedia requires online sources for questionable material. Content must be verifiable. All of the below material is questionable. The sources alluded to below are not online and do not provide sufficient details to verify the questionable claims made.

" Byrnes has spent his recent years travelling, selling autographed pictures at car shows. Recent reports cite that because of rude and unprofessional behavior toward fans, car enthusiasts, and his charging above-average rates for his autographed pictures, many car shows have banned Mr. Byrnes. In fact, the president of Kustom Kemps Of America vowed never to use Edd Byrnes again at any of his car shows because of Mr. Byrnes’s unacceptable behavior and high rates. Several sources state that on October 25, 2007 at the Blast With The Past car show in Denison, Texas, that Edd Byrnes started yelling obscenities at a little girl and her father for videotaping in his direction. Mr. Byrnes claimed that he “did not want people coming around recording him and his pictures for free, (without paying him) and then making movies about him”. It was reported that Edd Byrnes made the child cry. She had recently seen the movie Grease and had only wanted to meet him. This was reported on local news (CBS and NBC affiliates) KXII and KTEN, as well as the Herald Democrat Newspaper. " Mandudeguy (talk) 05:33, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

== WARNING! The questionable material above has been removed again, as per Wikipedia BLP guidelines (see below). Further violations may result in permanent removal of the article.

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Avoid repeating gossip. Ask yourself whether the source is reliable; whether the material is being presented as true; and whether, even if true, it is relevant to an encyclopedia article about the subject. When less-than-reliable publications print material they suspect is untrue, they often include weasel phrases and attributions to anonymous sources. Look out for these. If the original publication doesn't believe its own story, why should we?

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Administrators encountering biographies that are unsourced and negative in tone, where there is no neutral version to revert to, should delete the article without discussion (see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion criterion G10 for more details)." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandudeguy (talk • contribs) 07:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April 2010

Other IP editors are now making the same edits as above. I have reverted and left {{uw-biog1}} and {{uw-biog2}} messages. See User talk:68.91.148.188, User talk:68.92.232.84, User talk:68.90.157.30. — MrDolomite • Talk 20:31, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Wikipedia:Requests for page protection has been submitted here. — MrDolomite • Talk 01:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the edits made by the IP editors: It does _not_ matter if information has been in the article "for years". Per the policy at WP:BLP:
We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high quality sources. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.
Please locate an actual WP:SOURCE for the information being added. Merely stating that a newspaper or TV channel has reported it in the past is not sufficient. Find the exact website link to the newspaper article history or TV broadcast. If you are unable to determine how to incorporate such information into the article, please paste the link the source here on the talk page and another editor will help include it. — MrDolomite • Talk 01:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from THETRUTHPROTECTOR, 14 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} There was some factual info that has been removed in recent days. First by an unregester user, then all a sudden from a registered user. Bottom line is, that it has been verified, and now the vandals win because the info has been removed. I ask that the section in later life be restored below.

Byrnes has spent his recent years travelling, selling autographed pictures at car shows. Recent reports cite that because of rude and unprofessional behavior toward fans, car enthusiasts, and his charging above-average rates for his autographed pictures, many car shows have banned Mr. Byrnes. In fact, the president of Kustom Kemps Of America vowed never to use Edd Byrnes again at any of his car shows because of Mr. Byrnes’s unacceptable behavior and high rates. Several sources state that on October 25, 2007 at the Blast With The Past car show in Denison, Texas, that Edd Byrnes started yelling obscenities at a little girl and her father for videotaping in his direction. Mr. Byrnes claimed that he “did not want people coming around recording him and his pictures for free, (without paying him) and then making movies about him”. It was reported that Edd Byrnes made the child cry. She had recently seen the movie Grease and had only wanted to meet him. This was reported on local news (CBS and NBC affiliates) KXII and KTEN, as well as the Herald Democrat Newspaper.

Yes I was wondering why true and comfirmed information keeps getting removed also.