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Article revert

Following from the archived discussion [1] and a week's notice, the article will now be reverted from the current version [2] to the proposed version [3]. The rationale is that this version has far less issues than the current version and it will be more manageable to add material, if it is balanced, reliably sourced and represents a neutral point of view from the current version to the proposed version than to try and untangle the current article. The current version has multiple issues, some of which I have expanded upon in the archived discussion [4] and an article analysis [5] I started. The proposed version is at least free from stuff like concocted references, tabloid newpaper article references, cherry-picked quotes used to unbalance the article and bypass the NPOV requirement. Bksimonb (talk) 14:25, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The revert is now carried out. For clarity, in the above post "current version" now means as it was before today and "proposed version" is what it is based on now. Bksimonb (talk) 14:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. Does it still need any tags? It'd be nice to get a review of it by a Hindu expert. Renee (talk) 00:15, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Renee. I have added the FAO Project Hinduism tag. Bksimonb (talk) 06:42, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cultist's POV whitewashing

I have no problems with this topic or related BKWSU topics remaining objective but non-involved editors and admins should release that what is going on here is and attempt at a persistent POV whitewash of the cult's related topics by an adherent, Bksimonb, whose purpose on the Wikipedia appears to be solely to act as guard dog to this article.

One has to ask questions about the ethics of this and the framing of any dissent as "bullying, harassment, drama" etc as Simon does.

The Brahma Kumaris have invested considerable resources into convincing media control, historical revision and hagiographies over decades. This is nothing new ... merely a new environment.

What is being attempted here is the moulding of "fact", as presented by the Wikipedia, to fit the current PR of the organization.

The call to "independent" editors, or even miscategorized "experts" (in Wikipedia terms ... the BKWSU is Indian not Hindu), is really just a ploy, an attempt to introduce inaccuracy into the article, as much of the media presentation of the BKWSU has been highly doctored by the BKWSU.

As long as Wikipedians are aware of this agenda. --Taking stock (talk) 12:33, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]