User talk:Rebroad/Archive 1

George W. Bush intro

First, I hope you read the section I referred to in my summary, and saw that the election dispute is covered in the article. Therefore the charge of censorship is just wrong.

Second, the Supreme Court ruled on the election procedure, not its results. Florida's electoral votes were cast according to the election results as machine counting had determined them, not according to any order from the court.

Third, there's really no reason for mentioning that the justices are unelected, except to push a "selected not elected" POV. Gazpacho 15:44, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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Hi Gazpacho. Nice to make your acquaintance.

Apologies if I have caused you any offense, it was not intended. I'm sure there are other areas on Wikipedia that contain mention of the supreme courts involvement, but I would still maintain that simply deleting other people's contributions is still a form of censorship.

How the Supreme Court made a difference doesn't change the fact that they made a difference. It doesn't change the fact that members of the Supreme Court had conflicts of interest (let me know if were not aware of this, and I can elaborate) and therefore should have abstained.

The fact that this is the first time in history that a president has come into power in this way is relevant, as it strikes at the core of what a democracy is about. To many people, it's one of the most relevant things about the current president of the US.

If the "selected not elected" was a point of view then surely it's just your POV to suggest that there is no reason to mention it. As far as I was aware, the justices were selected, at least, that's what the article on the Supreme Court says. Are you saying that they are actually elected and the Supreme Court article is wrong?

Cheers, --Rebroad 19:38, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I will say this again: the election dispute is already covered in the article.

We could cover in the intro every point that some editor thinks is the "most relevant," but obviously that would give an impractically long intro. So, Bush is the president, for two terms, and before he was the president he did other things.

I hope you don't think that these matters have not been raised, and discussed, already in the past four years. Gazpacho 00:04, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Jesus

The edit I reverted had added "Judaea (in Palistine vis.Isreal)". Besides inserting a political opinion, two of the three words were misspelled. RickK 23:59, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)

As for the Cupertino article, I explained my reasons on User:LegitReality's Talk page. RickK 00:00, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

And your trolling is now noted. RickK 00:05, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

I suggest you find something else to do besides following me around, undoing my edits, and tattling on the mailing list. I notice that nobody has felt the need to reply to your silly email list postings. Don't you have something constructive you could be doing? RickK 20:33, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)

Links and user pages

Wikipedia is not made to promote outside links. The redirect to the external link of the Logan's run website will therefore not work. As for personal promotion, you can talk about yourself as long as it's confined to your user page. The normal namespace is reserved for encyclopedia articles. And the majority of Wikipedians isn't important enough to have their own encyclopedia article. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 15:50, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

Why are you telling me this?! --Rebroad 16:15, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Because I was under the impression you made an article on Logan's run and only added an external link. And because of the comment on your user page. My apologies, if I made a mistake. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 17:26, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

172

Three questions. Does this set a better standard for image file naming? [1] What is wrong with removing personal attacks from your talk page? And have we ever interacted with each other? (Given the ancient and obscure examples-- not much considering that I've been here for around two years and have become one of the 50-70 most active editors in Wikipedia's history--that you provided for the disendorsement, it seems like you have a pretty narrow picture of me based on a couple of bad first impressions... I'm not responding you to give you flack for your statements, but rather as a way of reaching out to you. It seems like you have been a pretty active user lately. So I'd rather have a better working relation with you that does not rest on just a few unpleasant run-ins. 172 18:42, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi. I'm trying to make an effort to vote for everyone. So far I'm spending far too long researching each person before voting, so I'm having to apply some pretty strict criteria to speed up the process! One of the things I give a black mark to is people trying to hide negative feedback. If I see just one instance, I'm opposing them. I'm applying the same standard to everyone, whether I've ever spoken to them or not. Regards, --Rebroad 19:05, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

"As of now, arbitration seems to focus too much on personality instead of the merit of the edits". Quoting you here ([2] 2nd para), I was voting for you purely on the merit of your edits. It is nothing personal, and I hope you understand this. Cheers, --Rebroad 19:33, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I was not hiding negative feedback. I was deleting an extremely inflammatory and hurtful personal attack. The attack was utterly illegitimate and politically motivated-- an attempt to cast me as some sort of Stalinist as opposed to commenting on the merits of the edits in question. It was an extreme affront to the professional standards to which I hold my research on Wiki and moreover outside Wiki and my beliefs (I am not a Stalinist by any stretch of the imagination). Since personal attacks are against Wiki policies of civility, I had every right to remove it from my personal user talk page as a sign that I would not dignify the comments by responding to them or by leaving them on my page... It would be different, though, if the comments were posted on a community talk page. In that sense, I did not remove-- or even comment on-- Fred Bauder's half-baked (sorry-- that's the kindest description I can think of) "disendorsement" charging me of systematically conspiring to "whitewash leftwing totalitarian actions and leaders" on Wiki, even though these comments stike me as even more mean-spirited and baseless. 172 20:30, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Your professional standards? Oh good HEAVENS!! Just STFU 06:11, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Jimbo

On VfD you said that even Jimbo is in favor of episode guides on Wikipedia. I'd be happy to drop my case if that's true. Can you point me to a place where he said so? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 13:20, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

I don't remember where exactly. It was on someone's talk page, a fairly well known sysop, and Jimbo commented that he agreed. I'll have a quick look and see if I can find it. Might have been Blankfaze. --Rebroad 15:24, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Ah, here it is, here. --Rebroad 17:45, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

3RR counting

VeryVerily

1. 3 Dec, 11:11 [3]
2. 3 Dec, 07:25 [4]
3. 3 Dec, 07:17 [5]
4. 3 Dec, 07:10 [6]
5. 3 Dec, 07:07 [7]

Abuse of adminship

Would you care to take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney ? CheeseDreams 02:19, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yes, well Corwin8 couldn't possibly have included a reference for his facts. Because he had the facts wrong. Yes, I do tend to revert untrue additions on sight. Wolfman 06:47, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Glad to hear it! Although only an infinitely wise person would be able to recognise all of them on sight! --Rebroad 10:41, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Republic of Macedonia

Please do not move the page. That is the consensus that has been reached, and you need community approval before making the drastic change. Have a look at Talk:Republic of Macedonia for a long background on the issue. Thanks, Dori | Talk 15:49, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC) Please stop changing the name. It's already been established by the community. Dori | Talk 15:53, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)

"I was recently surprised to discover the amount of propaganda surrounding Macedonia. I'm not sure at this point which Nation is the source of the facts and which is the source of the Propaganda, but certainly one of them is!"

You are making a simple, yet common, logical error here. The correct conclusion is "at least one of them is". -- Naive cynic 08:33, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yes of course. I kinda meant to imply that! :) --Rebroad 21:59, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You ask about the inscription on the stone at [8]. It is in Macedonian, of course. Bottom right text tells that the monument is erected in Prilep. Nikola 06:39, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Move vandalism warning

Rebroad, if you move the Republic of Macedonia article one more time you will be blocked. There will be no further warnings. -- ChrisO 21:49, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Archiving

I noticed that you "archived" the discussion on Clarence Thomas a while back by simply deleting the old stuff and adding a pointer to the history. The preferred way would be to move the talk page to Talk:Clarence_Thomas/archive_1. Then edit Talk:Clarence_Thomas (now a redirect) to include a link to /archive_1. Regards, Wolfman 16:16, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I agree that this method can sometimes work, but I don't think I wanted to delete everything from the article, and I didn't feel comfortable with copying other people's contributions into what would then be a new article, as it would have made it more difficult to see who typed what. i.e. my action of copying over the text that I didn't want to delete would have counted as text I had submitted (rather than the original author). Some people might have take such an opportunity to modify the text, and I didn't want to do it in any way that might look suspicious. --Rebroad 20:23, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Housekeeping

Some old discussions removed from this page. Can be found at: [9]. --Rebroad 20:25, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vote against disrupting Wikipedia

I'm laughing out loud at you voting against disrupting Wikipedia to make a point, especially given the recent activity.  :-) You have a good sense of irony, and I mean that as a compliment. Slim 15:28, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

Cheers Slim. Although I'm sure any irony is mostly accidental! :-s --Rebroad 17:16, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, the dogs are mine. One's a poodle and the other's a cross of some kind -- she looks like a cross between a fox and a Queen's corgi. :-) Slim 17:31, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

Anarchist? Hmmm . . . I feel that's a little strong. How about "a coordinated series of polite requests . . ."?  :-) Slim 18:03, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

You voted once for the policy at Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Despite a 75% support that vote was rejected by the minority. A new vote has been called with a two week limit at Wikipedia talk:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Please take a moment to participate. Thanks. - Tεxτurε 17:08, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Human

Rebroad, did you just move Human to Homo sapiens? If you did, what happened to the page that was already at Homo sapiens, or wasn't there one? Also, I can't get Human to move back, even though it ought to if there's only a redirect there. If it was you, can you let me know what you did exactly (and why)? Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:44, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

It did, in fact, move back even though I got a page saying it couldn't. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:48, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

question about a picture

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cc1.jpg

Where exactly did you get that?--Kross 00:10, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

• Nice pic, isn't it? I got it from http://www.synapse.ne.jp/~save. If you don't mind me asking - why do you ask? --Rebroad 15:58, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Did you get permission to use it? Wikipedia kind of has a rule about that.--Kross 07:44, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Of course! Although, even if I hadn't, it's use would constitute "fair use". --Rebroad 11:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

WP:CSD

Hi, it's generally discouraged to edit Wikipedia:candidates for speedy deletion without thoroughly discussing your addition on the talk page--many people would object to speedying based on that criteria. Best wishes, Meelar (talk) 16:32, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Poll

I hope that this message is of interest to you, if not please accept my apologies. There is a poll in the talk page of the 'Macedonian Slavs' article here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macedonian_Slavs#The_poll

Some people are lobbying for changing the article's name to Macedonians without any qualifier. As it seems, a number of these people come from the Macedonian/Macedonian Slav wikipedia project. It seemed only fair to attract the attention of people possibly from the other side of the story. Your contributions to the discussion and the poll are welcomed.

Images into Commons

hi, thx for your image Image:523ss82inch500x317.jpg , but could you please upload your pics into the commons http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Television , so that other language wikis can use them, too? would be nice, if you would do so. greets, --Andreas -horn- Hornig 12:23, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

• Hi! I'd be happy to do this, if someone could please tell me how. --Rebroad 08:00, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

hi, as far as i know, there is no feature for removing images from the en.wikipedia to the commons, so you wil have to upload it again into the commons (and plase with a more revealing filename :D). if it is up there, you or i can put a tag onto the description page of the old image, so that an admin can delte it here {{NowCommons|Image:FILENAME}})

that would be all. thx for your help and this grate picture, could you please give us more data, eg where it was taken and so on :D, grrets, --Andreas -horn- Hornig 12:47, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

hi Rebroad, could you do me a favour and upload the pic into the commons as soon as possible? because on de:HDTV is a poll for "Lesenswerter Artikel" (do not know the right translation, but worth to read artice would be the sense of it) and therefor i could use your pic to insert in the article, because this article lacks of such pics. if you do not mind, i could upload you pic meself (including all needed infos, that it was made and uploaded by you for the english wiki). would that be okay for you? greets, --Andreas -horn- Hornig 11:39, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi Andreas. That would be perfectly fine by me. No need to have asked! --Rebroad 07:36, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

hi rebroad, personally, i hate people who upload pics for me without notizing me. perhaps it is a tick, but i want to see an "uploaded by -horn-" under the pic. so i ask other pedians first, because i want other to that, too :D. otherwise, i would not be better than them. btw. could you please add some more detaials about your pic? eg. where it was shot (looks like a expo, but where), the name of that samsung screen and espacially for my interest the resolution. and it would be interesting to know what is written in "asian" (sorroy, but i do not know what language it is exactly :D ) on that banners. would you please do that on Image:523 Samsung 82inch 500x317px.jpg. thx, --Andreas -horn- Hornig 19:41, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

SAR

Was this a question or rhetorical? "Offer to Taiwan - is SAR an acronym for anything?" as the article this was an edit to is Special Administrative Region. SchmuckyTheCat 18:15, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Ah! Thanks! --Rebroad 18:53, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Big Ben

Hi! from Adrian. When you removed my picture of the clock (the pic without the person inserted) perhaps you didn't realise that I put it on the article because the reader might want such a pic without a person ie a plain picture of the clock, perhaps for homework or for use on another site or whatever? In other words the pic was there for a reason. It's time for bed now but tomorrow I might put it in a gallery at the bottom of the Big Ben article because a useful pic should not be lost. I know it's available on Commons but the reader is unlikely to bother to go there so it should remain somewhere in the article. A final point: six pics has never been regarded as too many in a reasonably long article so need to remove it on that count. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 22:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Bill Gates

Hey Rebroad, i reverted your changes to Bill Gates. I'm not quite sure why you wikified the the most expensive houses in the world. Maybe you wanted to start an article? --Husky 10:28, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Source of image

Rebroad, could you add source information to the image of Jef Raskin you just uploaded? Where did you get it, who put it under public domain? Thanks! -- Foofy 13:41, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

You recently uploaded the images Image:Gates kapor gibbons.jpg, Image:Jef raskin.jpg, Image:Ballmer gates.jpg, Image:Ballmer.jpg, Image:GaryKildall.jpg without providing source information. I have tagged these images accordingly, and they will be deleted within seven days unless you can show that they are from a free source. Please note that images available on the Internet are usually NOT in the public domain. Media is in the public domain only if placed there explicitly by the original copyright holder, or if created very long ago (over 70 years, depending on jurisdiction). Please see Wikipedia:Image use policy for more information. Thanks. Fredrik | talk 16:44, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for adding sources, but we meant accurate sources. Take Image:Jef raskin.jpg for instance. I extremely doubt Apple is going to own the rights to a picture of a guy they fired holding the model of a competing product. Also, I've seen the photo on other sites. Please update the sources. If you don't have permission, that is okay! Just cite the source and somebyd (me) can ask them for permission. Thank you. Foofy 08:26, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

What is the item Jef Raskin is holding? --81.241.23.206 18:06, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

A model of the Canon Cat. -Foofy 18:13, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Also, just because he is holding the Canon Cat does not mean the photo belongs to Canon!!! Please just paste in the URL of the page where you got the images (or the name of the books you scanned from). Somebody else can then determine the true source/copyright of the images. -Foofy 18:16, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I've added the images to Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images#Phase I - October 29 and tagged them for disputed source/licensing. Please don't remove the tags unless you have updated the sources and licensing. Remember that fair-use is usually unacceptable for images except things like logos, press photos, and book/album covers. If you provide sources I'd be willing to do the work getting permission etc. :) --Foofy 23:39, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't understand what you wanted, since you already mentioned the webpage that I got the image from. I have now updated the source to mention that web page instead of Canon (which I am not certain about). --Rebroad 15:25, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but a quick search shows you actually got it from here. You have to get permission and proper sources before you upload images. I have written and asked for permission on the Raskin image, but the others still don't have adequate sources! Nobody minds asking for permission, but they can't if they don't know who to ask. It's very simple: don't upload unless you have permission or it falls under acceptable fair use (like a book/DVD/album cover or press photo). --Foofy 15:45, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Steve Ballmer photo caption

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I have worked on articles about, say, musicians and I've been told to always use a last name, for the same reason I switched it back last time. I believe an enecyclopedia would always use a last name. So I'm going to switch it back, okay? Jacqui ^★ 14:12, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

redirect for Sam Beauregarde

Simply because of policy suggested here. It states that any article that, in good faith, can be argued that it will remain a perpetual stub (for a lack of encyclopedic information) should be merged into a larger parent article (assuming that there is anything worth noting). As I've seen it, from the article, the book, and both movies, there is simply nothing to be said about Violet's parents that would constitute a good article, and thus what little there is to say can be put on Violet's page, leaving a redirect in its place. --InShaneee 23:13, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree there's an argument for merging docs, but I would suggest that it's not clear in this case, as the Sam article could be expanded upon much more than it currently is, and so doesn't constitute a perpetual stub. Also, Violet is not a parent article to Sam, and vice versa. I.e. it's unusual to click on Sam, and then be shown Violet. --Rebroad 18:30, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

What else do you think could be added? As it is, it seems like it's already pushing the boundries of what's encyclopedic. Either way, using the "#" syntax, the redirect could always be made to jump straight to a merged section about Sam on Violet's page. And really, I'd argue that Violet is easily Sam's parent page, since he's an EXTREMELY minor character, worth mentioning only due to his relation to Violet. In other words, people going to Violet's page might benefit from Sam's info, but otherwise, I can't see the page getting much traffic. --InShaneee 00:30, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Sergei Rachmaninoff

I've reverted your move of Sergei Rachmaninoff to Sergei Rachmaninov, since Rachmaninoff is the transliteration used throughout the article, as well as by the composer himself, and the article's location was agreed on over a year ago. If you think there's a valid reason for the move that the rest of us don't know about do let us know, before you edit this time. --BigBlueFish 16:44, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

That South Pole Image link was dead

It pointed to File:SPSM.05.5.JPG, which appears to me to be a dead link. I admit that the link is not red, but when I click on it, the page says "No file by this name exists". Does it exist somewhere else? -- Pinktulip 11:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

How do I find out when the link went dead, or why the picture was deleted please? --Rebroad 11:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi Rebroad, thanks for posting the history link. It was very helpful in finding out what happened. When you uploaded the image, you didn't provide any information about where it came from. This information is important to us because it helps us avoid violating copyrights. The image was deleted in December because it didn't have any source info. There are more details about how to document the source and copyright status of an image at Wikipedia:Image use policy. FreplySpang (talk) 14:45, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

And, a policy that ALL such images can be deleted, without notice, was fairly recently instituted (see the "images" section of Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion - speedy delete means any admin can delete these things on sight). Apparently there were thousands of images that had been uploaded to Wikipedia without indicating their source and most of them were uploaded in violation of the owner's copyright. In accordance with this policy, these images were summarily deleted. The upload instructions are now intended to be much more clear about the need for this information. I think it's extremely unfortunate that the purge resulted in at least dozens if not hundreds of perfectly legally uploaded images being deleted, and doubly unfortunate that it was done in many cases without making any attempt to contact the users who had originally uploaded the images. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Minor correction to Rick's note: unsourced images are not deleted immediately, but tagged for a week first. FreplySpang (talk) 16:18, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

(copied from User talk:FreplySpang) Well, this one just said "Buildings at the South Pole", with no source info. As an admin, I can look at the edit history of deleted pages, and that's what was there. Unfortunately, there's no way to get the actual image out of edit history. Sometimes you can get them from our mirrors, like answers.com. If you do a Google image search for SPSM.05.5.JPG , you can get small versions. (But, if you don't know where it originally came from, we still can't use those.) And, I have to admit, deleting unsourced images is such a large task that the deleters often don't notify the uploader directly. Unsourced images are tagged for at least seven days with Template:Nosource before deletion. I'm sorry that you got bitten by this process. I see that you've already uploaded a different image for the South Pole article - thanks! FreplySpang (talk) 16:13, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Lost images. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:26, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the link to this, but it doesn't appear that anyone is paying any attention to the entries that are being made there. What's the point of this list if there are no actions upon it please? --Rebroad 20:04, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

The idea is that clever image finding folks may be able to help. I just looked at all the mirrors I could find and couldn't find it. -- Rick Block (talk) 20:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I doubt anyone will get punished, except maybe me for "expressing dissatisfaction" with the previous case (now the "in" remedy). Considering some of the architects of the original travesty are again "judges" (including Raul654 who called me a troll for suggesting he apologize to a user he insulted), and that Fred Bauder, though recusing himself, spammed the talk pages of my adversaries about my case, well, I'm not burgeoning with hope. But, then again, there are some good people on the AC. And thanks for your offer of help, but the ball is in their court now. VeryVerily 12:19, 24 January 2006 (UTC)