Talk:Bobby Fischer

Bobby Fischer was one of the good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
July 16, 2005	Peer review	Reviewed
July 25, 2005	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
December 19, 2005	Good article nominee	Listed
September 11, 2006	Good article reassessment	Delisted
Current status: Delisted good article

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Anti-Semitic?

Are you people serious? He was anti-himself? I mean really are you fucking kidding us? The next time I disagree with the Chinese Government/state I suppose that I'll be anti-Chinese.

The 1972 World Championship Match

It says:

"Fischer would likely have forfeited the entire match, but Spassky, not wanting to win by default, yielded to Fischer's demands to move the next game to a back room, away from the cameras whose presence had upset Fischer.[197][198] The rest of the match proceeded without serious incident. "

This is potentially deceptive. They played the third game in an isolated room, but went back to the stage for the remainder of the match. Someone who reads this as it stands may conclude that "the rest of the match proceeded" via the back room! WHPratt (talk) 14:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. Why not be bold and change it:)--Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing no further comment in this discussion, I just changed it. Please check and refine as necessary. --Pawnbroker (talk) 20:03, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Number one in lead

I felt there was too much emphasis placed on the no.1 rating in the first paragraph. Official ratings were only introduced in 1971, a year before Fischer retired, and don't know if back then they got the attention that they do now. His 54 months at no.1 was mentioned before we even found out what his nationality was. It didn't comply with WP:LEAD either, as none of it was mentioned in the main body of the article. I also don't think we need to have Kasparov, Karpov and even Magnus Carlsen mentioned in the opening paragraph. Let's keep the focus on Fischer.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His position on the rating list, and the fact that his July 1972 rating of 2785 remained the highest ever until finally surpassed by Kasparov in the 1980s, definitely deserves a mention somewhere, but should it be in a separate "rating" section, or just contained within the Road to the Championship section?--Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:39, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citizenship?

Quote from the article: "After Iceland granted him citizenship, the Japanese authorities released him to that country, where he lived until his death in 2008." This is correctly quoted from a Gruadian source, but I'm not sure it's correct. According to this photo (released by Reuters, unlikely to be photoshopped), on 22 February 2005, Iceland gave him an "alien passport" that says he was "stateless". He may have been granted full citizenship later, but even in this case the quoted sentence would be incorrect. Jimmy Fleischer (talk) 17:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the statement is correct. BBC News, amongst other sources, explains "MPs in Iceland voted [in February 2005] against granting Mr Fischer citizenship, offering him instead a special foreigners' passport and rights to residence... Japan, however, refused to release the chess champion on such grounds." The Japanese only released Fischer once Iceland had voted him full citizenship on March 21, 2005. See also this earlier article which has another pic of his "alien passport". Ewen (talk) 18:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, interesting. In this case, the picture of his wife (?) happily presenting the alien passport must have been taken in the time between it was issued and the time Japan declared it would not release him on this basis. Maybe this should be inserted into the article. Jimmy Fleischer (talk) 11:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His mother was really Jewish?

There are no documents whatsoever to attest that his mother was Jewish. All these press claims that his mother was Jewish all go back to a single 1962 interview of Fischer by Ralph Ginzburg, where Ginzburg claimed that Bobby privately told him that his mother was a Jew. We only have Ginsburg's word, nothing else. And Bobby always otherwise publicly insisted that he had no Jewish ancestry. It should be added to the article some of Bobby's repeated vehement denials that he had any Jewish ancestry whatsoever. 173.169.90.98 (talk) 12:13, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Despite news articles claiming Bobby Fischer's mother was Jewish, Fischer always denied he had Jewish ancestry even writing a letter to the Encyclopedia Judaica insisting that they remove his name. 173.169.90.98 (talk) 03:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]