Talk:Construction

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This article amits any mention of the academic education programs that lead to either associate's degrees or bachelor's degrees in the fields that are called Building Construction, Building Technology, or Building Science, and as you can see, there are not any articles on these subjects already. None of these phrases is even mentioned in this article, yet people who have earned these degreesddfasd work on the same projects, and on the same work teams as civil engineers, architects, mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, structural engineers, and so forth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.67.166.55 (talk) 01:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

New project proposal related to this article

There is a new construction project proposal that some of you here may be interested in: Wikibuilder - a knowledge base covering the design and construction of the built environment, in its entirety, in all languages. See meta:Proposals for new projects#Wikibuilder and meta:Wikibuilder for more information, and feel free to add your comments to meta:Talk:Wikibuilder —Christiaan - ☎ 09:42, 18 Jan 2005

North American bias

I am a British architect and note the strong North American bias of this article. Be that as it may I refer to the caption of the mustachioed worker who is dealing with GORM-Wire That is a term unknown to me and, I imagine, many others. The spiral looks to me like reinforcing rod for a concrete column, but it would help to have an explanation.

I note too that the crane is said to be "getting ready", etc. Cranes are inanimate but can be readied for operation by humans. Jack Hill98.67.166.55 (talk) 01:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I also note the heavy Americn bias of this article, and the "Authority Having Jurisdiction" section seems particularly irrelevant to this article.

Alistair Twiname98.67.166.55 (talk) 01:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree strongly that inanimate objects and machines such as cranes, bulldozers, I-beams, and so forth must not be acribed with human or animate characteristics. Part of the problem is that so many writers also do not know anything about writing English sentences in the passive voice.98.67.166.55 (talk) 01:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

However, the Wikipedia is operated by a corporation organized under the laws of the United States of America, it follows American copyright law, and the Wikipedia is housed and maintained in Internet servers in the United States. Therefore, you foreigners must not gripe about any so-called "North American" bias to the Wikipedia. If you dislike this, you are surely welcome to create similar operations in your own countries. This is exactly as in the case of dictionaries in American English and British English. If you dislike the Wikipedia, you are quite free to "go do your own thing".98.67.166.55 (talk) 01:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)#

And that is exactly the sort of xenophobic, and possibly racist, attitude that luckily the people behind wikipedia despise. I suggest you read About Wikipedia page and point out exactly where it says that they only want a north american point of view. Other pages which maybe of interest to you, include wikimediafoundation.org and especially WP:WORLDVIEW. Thanks for reading! --AD^talk 14:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Heavy Construction

I work in highway/heavy construction and this article seams to be missing much of what we do. Building highways, bridges, dams, and the like are also construction. I'm going to make some minor relevant changes now, and when I have time expand a larger section to highway/heavy.Zath42 09:47, 14 July 2005 (UTC)Mack builders columbus ohio

Yes, it seems to focus too much on business/legal side of things, ignoring the technical side. Samohyl Jan 15:40, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I added some to the Highway/heavy section, my personal experience puts close to 1/3 of these projects, if not more, being private work, generally for large corporations, mines, factories and the like. Zath42 15:32, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Are mines part of the construction industry? Please provide examples of large projects done in heavy/highway completed for private corporations. Thanks. Steven McCrary 02:09, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I work for a highway/heavy contractor, a substantial portion of the work we do is contracted for the mines, in the early years we did the mass grading, and site work for the haul roads and site locations of the Largest Iron Ore Mine in the U.S., and we built and do the maintenance on multiple tailings basins. We get large projects to move anything from 100,00CYLV to 3,000,000CYLV on most if the mines, this year marked the 3rd year in a row that we worked on every iron ore mine in the state of Minnesota. This is all private work and it is on the scale of two to 20 million dollar highway projects. The mines themselves do lots of heavy construction, and we are not the only contractor that works with the mines. They most often hold competitive bids much like a state. Clevland Clifs is one of the major owners in a many of these mines, paticularly Hibbing Taconite where I have done most of my work building large dams and building and mantaining haul roads. These haul roads are built and designed for 250ton trucks. Often the mines do this work themselves and it varies form mine to mine, I only know for sure at the iron ore mines, but the equipment they use which is the same as what many contractors use is used at large gold mines in Nevada, and coal mines out east. Also we do private work for the Canadian National Railroad as well as the rail systems used by the mines. Also we do large site work projects the mass grading for large factories, much like that found at the mines, for shopping malls, wal marts, loews, united health, olive garden, the list goes own, and this is work in Minnesota, we have 10 to 15 main competitors in the area, as well as many from out of the area.Zath42 00:16, 24 December 2005 (UTC) This might not be true of outher countrys or other parts of the world, but we have worked in colorado, canada, michigan, wisconsin, and alaska, so I would say so in the us.Zath42 00:20, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

This is the company i work for Hoover Construcion Co. And our webpage has examples of many different projects.Zath42 00:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Zath42, thanks. So, as I understand it, your company is not doing the actual mining but assisting the mine with its operations, such as building its rail lines, access roads, building dams, and doing general "site" work. That is certainly heavy construction; thanks for the clarification. I have added the content to the main page; please check it to see if it represents that segment of the industry. Thanks again, Steven McCrary 00:46, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes you have it. The changes reflect the industry as I know it.Zath42 02:07, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Heavy/Highway vs Highway/Heavy

Well I'm on here I ponder if there is any significances in the ordering of these words, all of the literature I have looked at in the office has it highway heavy, is this a company to company thing or region to region, or insignificant?Zath42 02:11, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

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Any thoughts on the History of Construction? eg Primitive Shelters -Megaliths of Europe - Egypt, Greece, Rome etc

Rossfi

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Construction = word for result or only for process?

I come here from te german Wikipedia and wanted to link de:Bauwerk somewhere. This is the word not only for a Building (de:Gebäude), but for every kind of construction made by men. So my question is: why is this articel only related to the process, not to the result? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.79.87 (talk • contribs)

I don't know anything about the German language, but I believe that this article only discusses the process of construction because there are innumerable results. Construction can produce anything because it is such a general term. A user will search for the specific result of construction, most likely, if he or she wants to know about that particular result, or he or she can click on any of the links under the construction trades section to see the results for that particular type of construction. J. Finkelstein 21:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

"Bauwerk" refers to the finished building. "Baugewerbe" or "Bauen" or "Häuslebauen" would be closer. "Bauwerk" or "Gebäude" could be linked to building.--Achim 00:24, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

I've cleaned up the external links section, as it was becoming akin to a mini web directory of anything vaguely construction-related. Link should generally go on the most specific relevant page - e.g. Carpentry tips on Carpentry etc.

Furthermore, most of this article is unstrucured, information-less lists - this sort of list is exactly what categories are for! There is no need to write out the contents of Category:Construction to fill an article. This should be converted to prose, or deleted.

Aquilina 17:31, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

AHJ / NVQ / SVQ

Is "authority having jurisdiction" a term specific to the United States? Also isn't NVQ specific to England and SVQ to Scotland? Addhoc 19:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Im not sure about the construction code, but in the National Electrical Code the Authority Having Jurisdiction(AHJ) can be an inspector, a single person, not just an agency. Wouldn't this be the same for construction?

Construction industry qualifications

The section about "construction industry qualifications" makes little to no sense. "Sandwich Study"? I propose deleting this section. Drnathanfurious 16:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

There's probably a place to talk about training programs, including craft/trade apprenticeships and more technical training prgrams for superintendents and construction engineers, but the section as written is crap. (It also looks like it was written by someone infected with credentialitis in a really bad way.) Go ahead and nuke it. Αργυριου (talk) 21:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Jargon

I've rescued the building construction paragraph which had been vandalised and left for a month or so. The whole article does reek of jargon though. It needs rewriting in Plain English. Secretlondon 23:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

>I am with the American Society of Professional Estimators and I have a short comment regarding jargon omitted from the site. I believe there should be definitions and terms common to all countries included if possible. I see under "Design Team", that cost professional titles like "cost engineer" and "quantity surveyor" are included, but not the American term "estimator" or “cost estimator”. The typical American estimator must understand and contribute both a quantity survey and pricing, which not all quantity surveys do. We feel it is an important distinction and should be included in the construction design team paragraph. Walshaspe (talk) 13:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC) Edward Walsh

Images

A bit heavy on the buildings and skyscrapers only. Where are the bridges, tunnels, dams? Suggest broadening the scope of the images, and reducing buidling images to two or three only to make space. MadMaxDog 12:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Third Sentence

I believe there should be an "and" in the third sentence between "manager" and "supervised" instead of a comma.

You could just leap in and fix it yourself. Be bold! Cheers Kevin 03:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Red and White construction site poles

Query - What is the purpose of those red and white pole "archways/tunnel" that are littered around a large building site, especially I've noticed on highway construction sites. They have wires with little red and white triangles hanging on them between two coloured poles, and look like lorries and equipment get driven under/through them... What are they and why are they there?? Thanks Geraint

Try asking the question at the Reference Desk. The discussion pages are solely aimed at improving the article itself. Cheers. --LeyteWolfer 20:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Metal stick thingys

What are those metal stick thingys that help hold the building. Rodimus Rhyme (talk) 07:58, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I think you are referring to rebar--AD^talk 21:32, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Construction is an Industry

I think this article does not convey, that construction is an industry. Architecture and Civil Engineering are professions within the construction industry - not vice versa. Does anyone disagree?--AD^talk 21:32, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

i agree —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.237.92.135 (talk) 19:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Globalize

Authority having jurisdiction

This section has a strong north american bias and needs to be modified so that it is clear what region it refers to and so that information on other regions can be clearly added. Thanks to anyone who knows anything about it. --AD^talk 00:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Construction Careers

I have cleaned up the section on 'construction careers', but now it is simply blatantly obvious that all the information is British. Can anyone with knowlege of the equivalent professions in other countries please expand the section, thanks.--AD^talk 00:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Here in the United States the employment market for construction executives is very slow. 2010 will be a worse time for employment than 2009 according to the hundreds of clients we have in construction.

From: Frederick Hornberger CEO of Hornberger Management Company, senior construction recruiter for executives regarding construction jobs, and construction resumes. http://www.hmc.com http://www.constructionexecutive.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fhornberger (talk • contribs) 10:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Repeating Paragraphs

{{editsemiprotected}} Two paragraphs under the Types of Construction heading are repeated further down the section. The first paragraph starts with: "Building construction is the process of adding structure to real property". The second paragraph follows the first. I suggest removing the second instance of the repeated paragraphs.--SimonC (talk) 05:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. Celestra (talk) 13:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Best construction shapes

Wouldn't a section or a new article regarding "the best construction shapes" be useful ? Appearantly, bees have chosen the hexagon since it requires less material than making ie the combs from triangles. Thus, it is still a very good construction shape ie when building storage cells (ie for food, ...) Decagons are the best shape for construction as an alternative to the circle (which can't be built). Ref: Sci-Trek: What animals built Ref:Grand designs: episode ? 91.182.241.204 (talk) 13:26, 30 November 2010 (UTC)