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Word Gratis
I have just create my account on wikipedia. About the word, can you give some references where appear that French, German, Portuguese, and so on use gratis? I speak French and it's not a word in it. I know a little bit Catalan and it's not a word. AFAIK, the other languages don't use it.
I don't know if wikipedia put my user and the other things, if not, i'll do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilkis2 (talk • contribs) 19:47, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot. What I mean about from Spanish and not from Latin is that, obviously, the word comes from the Latin but English took it from Spanish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilkis2 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, quite frankily I have no idea wheather the term means 'for free' in those languages. Your edit was reverted because you removed sourced content and replaced it with different content that you did not provide a source for. I have removed the unsourced information concerning other laguages from the article. I have reworked the section with a new source from the Oxford English dictionary. This source shows the word gratis (as used in English) has its origins in late Middle English, from Latin. You are free to edit the article again, but please provide reliable sources to illustrate any points you make. It is not sufficient under Wikipedia's policy of verifiability to simply say "I speak the language/s". Pol430talk to me21:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good stuff, glad you found a reference, feel free to reinsert the information (if you haven't already) and illustrate your reference using an inline citation. See WP:CITE and WP:RS for more info. Best Wishes Pol430talk to me23:09, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2010. Read all about these in the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report.
Highlights
Membership grows to 503 editors
2,589 articles removed through four Backlog elimination drives
An edit you made [1] involved adding an extra line space between the categories and the stub, and your edit summary linked to the above page, but I could see no mention there of adding lines. Could you clarify your edit? Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 11:13, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, in short I have no idea why AWB added those extra lines, perhaps it felt it was tidying up the whitespace. This edit was made almost one month ago using a previous build of AWB. 'Typo fixing' was the edit summary I had selected at the time hence why it appeared, this was based on the AWB documentation which suggested it was an appropriate edit summary when regex typo fixing is enabled. I have since refined my settings in AWB to skip only whitespace changes, and I have changed the edit summary to 'clean up'. I only use AWB to scan new pages to perform very general clean up's of articles, and for my work as a copy editor. I hope that has answered your question, if you disagree with the edit feel free to revert it. Pol430talk to me11:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your swift reply. I don't know much about AWB and other automated tools, but from your response it seems its perhap closer to being a fully automated process than a semi-automated one, as you say you have no idea why the programe added those lines. You say that there have been changes since the time of the edit that mean this type of edit won't be done in future? However, I note you also state that you have changed your AWB settings so that 'whitespace only' changes would be skipped, but a) does this mean that whitespace changes combined with other changes would still be done (i.e. as per the Pinehurst example when the orphan tag was also added), and b) if other AWB users do not apply your rule then they (via AWB) may continue to make whitespace-only edits? Sorry if my questions may be a bit basic - if there's an easy guide on AWB which may be of relevance to my query feel free to point me there. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 12:15, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
AWB is a semi automated process, and ultimately I am responsible for any edits I made and accept responsibility accordingly. My AWB setup will still make whitespace changes, but only if other changes are made. Other users could make whitespace only changes if their settings dictate that. I didn't notice it added the orphan tag in that example, so yes my current AWB setup would make that same edit again (if I click save). It is possible to decline specific changes suggested by AWB by double clicking the relevant line in the diff preview. It is also possible to use custom edit summaries and change the edit summary for each edit. However, the purpose of AWB remains to make tedious tasks easier. If I do a new pages scan AWB will pick up 500 articles to check. Whilst I am careful that I do not allow AWB to make destructive changes, It is possible I may make edits that some users feel were not particularly needed. There is no easy guide to AWB but more information can be found at the project page WP:AWB. Whitespace changes by AWB users have been discussed before (I forget where, maybe AN/I). Best wishes Pol430talk to me13:05, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have had a chance to look through WP:AWB (not read through every word!) and had a quick search for ANI/whitespace issues. Having done this, I have a few minor follow-up points and then I was intending to make a post at AWB.
Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser#Rules of use states that whitespace only edits should be avoided, and you say above that indeed your AWB settings have been tweaked to avoid this. I take it this means that AWB is not set-up so as to prevent whitespace-only edits (or indeed any other 'insignificant' edits), and that it is solely down to AWB users to follow the rules?
Anyway, that is a bit by-the-by. I have gone to the general fixes page of AWB and this sub-section [2] is the only one I can see that might be dealing with why whitespaces may be being added to some articles. Do you know any more on this, or if not this will be the main question I will be asking at AWB. I would like to use the Pinehurst example above when I post, and I may link to this discussion for background info, if that's OK. Anyway, if you have any further points to make on this let me know, else I will ask a question at AWB and will post a link here when done as well. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 12:02, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
GOCE January 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs
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Progress report
We have eliminated two months from the backlog – January and February 2009. One of our goals is to eliminate as many months as possible from the 2009 backlog. Please help us reduce the size of this part of the backlog if you haven't already. Another goal is to reduce the entire backlog by 10%, or by 515 articles. Currently, we have eliminated 375 articles from the queue, so if each participant copy edits four more articles, we will reach that goal.
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Thanks for letting me know about Lulebo, I'm not too familiar with the notability criterias for companies. Is a company notable enough if it has around 70 employees, owns and manages approximately 11 100 apartments, and has a turnover of around half a billion SEK? Otherwise, I suppose you can delete the article. Thanks! --Skizziktalk01:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, speedy deletion is not used for articles that fail to meet notability criteria, but because an article does not make any credible assertion of notability. If you were to edit the article and add content that shows how the company is notable then the tag can be removed. Managing a lot of houses does not equal notability. Managing a lot of houses and receiving coverage in the media, because it does a very good (or bad) job of managing those houses could be notable. Does that make sense? Pol430talk to me11:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the answer! I thought a company was notable if it was big enough, but it make sense that it should have been covered in the media too. I don't have time to do the research now so I have no problem if You delete it. It can always be recreated at a later date when someone can dig up more sources. --Skizziktalk12:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comrade!
I'm glad to have found you!
I seriously need your help concerning the addition of false information being added to wikipedia by a stubborn, poorly-informed user. I have messaged him over and over, and he will not relent, and accuses me of vandalism whenever i correct his mistakes. It is regarding the band Dying Fetus, and their genre. the user is Blackmetalbaz, who insists that Dying Fetus is a hardcore punk / grindcore band, while they are neither - i have known the vocalist/guitarist of dying fetus, the only remaining original member for almost 20 years, and i can attest 100% that they are not, nor have they ever been punk; they are Death Metal - a combination of brutal death metal (drums and vocals) and technical death metal (guitars). He told me specifically that when he writes their music, that is one thing he keeps in mind.
I have explained my case logically, rationally, and passionately, but he is quite dense, and refuses to admit that he has made a mistake. He found a website that erroneously classified them as hardcore, and has taken that as golden truth. it is untrue. please take the time to look into this and correct his misinformed action. John Gallagher and dying fetus would greatly appreciate it, and i would again adore wikipedia the way i did before this menace ruined it for me and thousands of other hardened Dying Fetus fans. just look at the discussion on their page!
