User talk:Mìthrandir

This user is currently feeling discouraged about Wikipedia and is a wikibreak due to loss of motivation.

Your help in cheering this user up would be appreciated.

They will return when their wikistress has dissipated, and their confidence in the wikicommunity has been restored.

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Nazi flag

Having an enormous Nazi flag on your user page is not likely to encourage nice, friendly and collegiate editing. Please consider removing it. Thanks, Chzz ► 23:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there!

You wrote, i don't need your gay comments. - could you please explain; I'm sorry - there may be some linguistic issue here, but I understand the word "gay" to refer to homosexuality, which - as far as I am aware - is unrelated to our discussion.

Thanks in anticipation, Chzz ► 00:45, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for creating a template self-identifying as a Nazi; placing a Nazi flag on your user page; making a personal attack when it was removed by placing a swastika on another user's page and making homophobic comments. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Mìthrandir (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

DISCLAIMER: I do not identify as a Nazi, Neo-Nazi, Facist, Neo-Fascist. I do not accept or agree with the actions or views of Hitler or any other dictators in the world for that matter. I do not hate Jews... in fact I have many jewish friends... Hello, although this is technically an unblock appeal, it is really only a reason to explain.... you won't be in a mood to unblock me when I'm finished talking... :) First of all I want to apologise, I should have thought before putting the giant swastika on my page. This is the reason for that... I have a few Jewish friends, and normally we sometimes make jokes about jews and christians and things like that. I never really make jokes about the holocaust, because that never go over well with them and it is not nice... well, apparently, a joke about jews being lawyers set one of my closest friends off who is not really a jew, but claims he is.... now he thinks I am a facist, nazi, and I hate jews.... i gotreally frustrated and annoyed and so I came home and started messing around on my userpage... Second of all, i would like to ask why it is not permissable to "self identify as a nazi"? There are several userboxes dealing with this subject. There is even a userbox that states, "This user identifies as a Hitlerist! WHAT THE HELL?!?!?! You will let people say they support Hitler, but you won't let them say they are nazis?!? Being a nazi does not mean that you condone Hitler or his actions, it simple means that you support the theory of the politics behind Nazism.... you can be a nazi and not support the horrible eugenics policy. But if you are hitlerist, that obviously says you support all that... your arguement would of course be that it is offensive to jews.... well if you are taking that into account, then you should also ban anyone that says they identify as a communist. That can be extremely offensive to christians... if you want me to, I can talk about all the horrible things they did to christians in communist russia (with reference of a nice book). I think I will... one of the things they did was putting shackles on the ankles and wrists of christians with spikes of the inside that cut into your skin if you moved at all... and then they put starved rats into your cell that tried to eat you alive so you had to fight them off while your wrists and ankles are killing you. They also tied you to a cross and hung you upside down over a huge pile of other prisoners crammed into a small room. You were then forced to excrete over everyone. You were also stood upright in a box while they drove long nails into it. It was alright if you stood perfectly still, but you would have to stand there for hours and then your body would sway and poke into the nails. They also stood you naked in a freezer with a doctor nearby that signalled when you were freezing to death and then they would take you out and warm you up. They would do that for hours on end. Then they would beat you over and over again asking you to renounce Christ... the holocaust was horrible, but I would rather be gassed or hung by a nazi than endure those tortures for 18 years like one man who wrote a book about his experiences... so could you ban all communists please? My last comment is in response to Chzz's question about me making the 'gay comment' statement. Nowadays the word gay is used for two meanings... one is homosexuality and the other is wierd, stupid, dumb... i was using the second connotation.... maybe if you people didn't spend so much time on this gay... sorry... stupid online encyclopedia you would realize how the real world uses words... Even if you unblock me (which you won't... :)...) I will take a wikibreak... i don't want to become addicted to point of ruining my social life...... i have already recieved a punishment, never becoming an admin (the whole gay... sorry... dumb trust thing)... just know this... i would have enventually removed the swastika after I cooled down and because of your gay... sorry... dumb policy you have lost a serious editor... this whole thing has really annoyed me... Mìthrandir (talk) 17:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC) (P.S. Chzz, I have been on Wikipedia for 2 years... you think I forgot to sign my gay... sorry... stupid post? yeah right!)[reply]

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No grounds for unblock provided. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 17:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The analogy you seek to draw is hollow; a transparent fallacy. Because some communists or particular member of other sociopolitical movement or religion did or stand for horrible things is not an indictment of the group/movement/religion itself. Posting a Nazi flag and proclaiming yourself as identifying as a Nazi is completely different. It has a very specific meaning and you cannot analogize it away in this fashion. You and everyone who might read this know what that flag means and what nazism stands for. As for a hitlerist userbox, if you tell me where that is I will go delete that and block the user who created it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:12, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I found it. Deleted and user blocked indefinitely.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Mìthrandir (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This is just a message to Fuhghettaboutit... I need a lot of time to cool off and I will return sometime later with a legitimate block appeal... so long for now.... Mìthrandir (talk) 01:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Not an unblock request FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 02:26, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Unblock

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Mìthrandir (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I've cooled down and now I am ready to make positive contributions... I'm really sorry... I should have just stayed away from Wikipedia while I was frustrated... As you can see from the three articles I've written, I can work positively.

Decline reason:

Yesterday, amid all the ranting you stated you needed a long break. Everything else you said was wrong, but you were right about that. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

It didn't take that long to calm down...

Decline reason:

This is a repetition of the previous unblock request, which was declined. - Vianello (Talk) 23:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The problem is, this is still Wikipedia. It's pretty much guaranteed that you will get angry again. Conflicts happen all the time here. By the way, 'gay' is only a synonym for 'stupid' to people who believe that all gay people are stupid. It's not cool to use that way unless you want to be perceived as a homophobe. It's pretty lame for you to go on a lengthy rant defending Jews from bigotry if you're just going to use anti-gay bigoted language instead. I'm gay, so when you used an anti-gay slur, you lost any collaboration you might have gotten from me, for example.-FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:01, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Mìthrandir (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Responding to what fisherqueen said, does that mean I am pretty much blocked forever? Cause that's pretty messed up...

Decline reason:

This is not an unblock request. Please do not use unblock templates to make replies. However, in response to your question, let me simply say that if this is how you behave when upset, it doesn't bode well for your future here. I can agree with her guarantee something else will upset you down the road. - Vianello (Talk) 23:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Mìthrandir (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Then how do I communicate if I am blocked? In response to what you said, I don't have anger management issues or anything, this is the only time I've really gotten angry like that and done anything because of it... I am serious when I say it won't happen again. And also, I do not hate gays... it's just a term that a lot of people use that is in now way being hateful to gays...

Decline reason:

I'm sorry that you're so clueless as to why that might be offensive. I would suggest you continue the discussion below without posting another unblock request; if your seventh request does not fully address the problem, your talk page will be locked. Kuru (talk) 02:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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You can communicate by posting normally on the page. At any rate, if you believe that the term "gay" used pejoratively carries no negative connotations, you're going to find a lot of your future communication with a lot of people made a lot harder. That said, I'll leave the unblock situation to other admins to review. - Vianello (Talk) 23:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm gay, and I told you that you have used an anti-gay slur. Your response was that you don't care what I feel, and you plan to continue using anti-gay slurs, because you've heard lots of other people use them. So your claim that you 'don't hate gay people' is a little pointless to me. But maybe some straight person will come along and unblock you. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:33, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, don't bother responding to me. I gave you one friendly notice that you were using anti-gay slurs, in case you were just some kid who didn't know better. But now that you know better and don't care, I am removing your page from my watchlist, and won't see anything else you write. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:36, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock

Listen, I know I should not have said anything of what I did, but you guys are all judging me off of one thing I said, you won't even give me a chance to explain. First of all, FisherQueen, you act like I just blatantly ignored you, when I didn't. I never said that I would continue to say what I said. All I said was that, most people that say that aren't even thinking about homosexuality when they say, "that is so gay..."... Maybe they should think about it before they say it.... what i'm saying is that I have never thought about people being offended about it... i will not say that anymore... and also, why does saying that make me a homophobe? It doesn't mean I am afraid of gay people, it simply means I wasn't thinking... please think about this... Mìthrandir (talk) 13:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock

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Mìthrandir (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This is a legitimate unblock request. I understand why I was blocked, I made comments and posted a images on my userpage that were not appropriate and offensive. I am sorry for what I did and I now know how to contribute positively without offending anyone. I now realize that even if it a less contreversial view, you should really not make userboxes for them because it sometimes ruins some people's perspective of you. I have decided that I will only have userboxes that are related to Wikipedia views or status. I am really sorry for what I did and you can see that I can really make positive contributions. I am sorry to anyone who I offended and I will keep my mouth shut in a situation like that in the future. I am ready to be helpful again.

Decline reason:

And what about your attack on Chzz? The swastika and "I don't need your gay comments"? what you do on your own userpage is your own business, but that was completely out of order and, not just that, entirely unprovoked and unnecessary. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I have addressed all of this on the previous unblock requests. I was just angry that one time, it has never happened like that before and will never happen again. I promise.

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I've read them all and the best explanation I see is along the lines of "I got a little pissed off with things". I'm well aware of your positive contributions, and they're why you still have the ability to edit this page, but they don't excuse personal attacks. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It works both ways. You want forgiveness, we (I) want an explanation. You're not being punished, but we need to know that this sort of thing isn't going to happen again—knowing why it happened in the first place is a good place to start. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have addressed all of this on the previous unblock requests. I was just angry that one time, it has never happened like that before and will never happen again. I promise. Mìthrandir (talk) 16:18, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As recently as earlier today you were displaying a box on this page that stated "This page contains material that is kept because it is considered humorous.". Actions by you like that make it very difficult for any admin to take your 'sincere apologies' seriously. The admins have been extremely lenient in allowing 9 appeals for unblocking in just four days, usually three failed appeals is sufficient for the block to be made permanent and your ability to edit even this talk page removed. I strongly suggest you step away from the computer and post nothing for several weeks and allow this all to cool down. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 16:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]