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I posted here after looking at your solution to a problem for new users' new articles on the Sept. 30 Help Desk archive.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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Cello blues

strange that the search term 'cello blues' links to whatever except the cello blues page I have just created. It links the Freewheeler band to a gay car club.

Is this our knowledge base??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basvossen (talk • contribs) 03:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

There is no Cello blues page, so I removed the See also link, that section is only for existing articles, not redlinks. – ukexpat (talk) 19:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Kailash Satyarthi

NL-Aid has published a list of evidence against the organisation. Less proof has been submitted for UFO's around the world. I would take it very serious. Joop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joop Versteggen (talk • contribs) 18:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Then please cite the reliable sources. It really isn't that hard. – ukexpat (talk) 19:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

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A different subject

I'm glad we stumbled over one another. Besides doing hangon patrolling, I'm a Third Opinion Wikipedian and there's a request for a Third Opinion pending at the Third Opinion Project page that you might, as an (ex?) subject of Her Majesty, have an insight about. If you wouldn't mind, you might take a look at the dispute at Talk:Ellie_Goulding#Council_housing and jump in if you have an opinion about the question. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 19:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I'll take a look. I am still a loyal subject, and have no intention of becoming a US citizen despite having lived here for 16 years. In fact I think I was one of the last holders of a proper blue British passport, that finally expired in 2000! – ukexpat (talk) 20:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and welcome to the Third Opinion Project. (I've given you credit there for your opinion.) But just for my own curiosity: Would you, yourself, see a likely different reaction between the way an average American would react to a prominent person having been born and raised in a housing project than the way an average Briton would react to a prominent person having been born and raised in a council estate? (Warning: Long and boring explanation of why I'm curious follows:) Due to going to law school and getting a career established, I pretty much missed most of the musical trends which occurred between 1975 and somewhere in the mid-1990s. My teen-aged son later introduced me to punk (and from there I progressed on to, and developed for the first time in my mid-50s, a love for heavy metal, but that's a different story for another time). Though I prefer metal, there's a lot of punk and punk subgenres that I enjoy, too. One which I particularly like (and the only one I play regularly) is Oi!. My interest in that led to my researching (guess where) the culture from which Oi! developed, and that into things that I remember being mentioned in my youth such as Teddy Boys, Mods and Rockers, and the like. Reading about them led me to reading a couple of papers about youth violence in Britain and all of that seemed to support the idea that the UK has much more class-consciousness, in a way that affects one's choices and one's way of life, than does the US. Which is not to say that we don't have our own similar issues, though ours — I think — to turn more around race and less around class. Am I wrong about the degree to which class-consciousness is a significant issue in the UK? You're in a particular position to know. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 21:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Interesting question! I think class consciousness is still an issue in UK, though not as great as it was, say, when my father (now 80) was growing up. Both my parents are from very working class backgrounds - for example although my father attended a well known grammar school in the city where he grew up, there was no prospect of him going to university. (Indeed I was the first of the immediate family cousins to go to university and on to one of the "old" professions, thanks in no small part to my parents' desire that I have the opportunities that they did not.) Since my father's day, the increase in programmes to promote such opportunities, such as university and some post-grad grants (paying for fees and a percentage of living expenses) have "levelled the playing field" and certainly increased the size of the middle class, as have social programmes to improve the lot of the old working class (eg the National Health Service, for all its faults). As members of that middle class have succeeded in business and politics (people such as Alan Sugar, Richard Branson, Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher etc), the influence of the old "ruling class" has, rightly, waned. But having said all that, there is still in some circles an innate snootiness (probably borne out of jealousy) about the success of members of the working class, such as pop stars, football (soccer) players with multimillion pound, multiyear contracts, businessmen and women like Alan Sugar and Mary Portas. I could go on but I think you get the idea. – ukexpat (talk) 22:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I now have a better feel for the subject, I think. Regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 22:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you...

Hi Ukexpat... I've been enjoying Wikipedia for years but only recently discovered how to post new articles to it and, at the same time found myself fortunate enough to gather some useful information worthy of posting - see w:Cloak of Conscience, for instance. I have tried to keep within the standards of Wikipedians in creating and editing this article, and it has not always been easy (perhaps it shouldn't be), even though I am an academic with a masters degree to my name. So, if I can get through the haze of reference and citations and syntaxes needed to satisfy Wikipedia I now truly believe anyone can... :)

THANK YOU so much for all you to do to moderate, mediate and temper the content which is clearly exposed to so many millions of people every day. It is valuable work, as I'm sure you know.

Anyway, the purpose of this appreciation to you comes in hope that you might also know how to, or know someone who can, help me have a recent article I published translated. It is one which in English is valuable, but if it were in French, Italian, Spanish and German too, would be GOLD. Yes, it has true International appeal, and is sure to be searched for very soon by users of those languages.

I have tried navigating the Babylon section, and thought I was doing the right thing after posting a translation template into a user page there but it has come to no avail. Probably because I did the wrong thing. I'm sorry. I am trying, but I do find it difficult to master the protocol of Wikipedia, even though I realise and quite understand why it should be as tight as it is.

If there's anything you can do to guide me on getting the w:Cloak of Conscience translated into those four languages, I would be very grateful - and so (dare I say it) might be the world...! If on the other hand you think its not an article worthy of translation, I will understand entirely, but will be curious to know why (and will therefore beg a reason...)

Thank you Surrealist lover (talk) 22:51, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Harry Whitney

Thank you for your help on the "Harry Whitney" page--my first WP effort. Now that I have posted the article officially on Wikipedia, should I delete the draft? It is confusing having two versions.

Wildcatman99 (talk) 12:56, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem, it looks very good by any standard! In fact, I am going to nominate it for a DYK spot on the main page. You can request that the draft version be deleted by adding {{db-user}} at the top. An admin will then come along and delete it. – ukexpat (talk) 14:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: (User talk:ais523) Stub sorting script

It seems that something had changed about the way the API responds to the script's requests, but luckily it wasn't fatal. The script should be working again now; bypass your cache to see the changes. (I'm assuming you're talking about stubtagtab2.js, which is the script I just fixed; I haven't looked at the original.) --ais523 17:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Great thanks, I will make sure that I am using the correct script! – ukexpat (talk) 19:12, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Brilliant - works perfectly, thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

amended page

I have amended a page (which you commented on) last year which I think now is ok. not sure how to make it go "Live". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Coverlifestudios/photoproductions Thanks, Coverlifestudios (talk) 06:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC).

To make it "live", you must move it to the mainspace. At the moment however, the sources do not IMHO adequately demonstrate that the company is notable per WP:CORP. You should also consider changing your username as it would appear to be in breach of the user name policy. – ukexpat (talk) 13:57, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Lennox Lewis

Hi thanks for your input though i would prefer more elaboration on your views. Can you at least see how inconsistent his identity is dealt with in comparison to South American footballers? Its just absurd when he self-identifies as British to label him Canadian. I agree there's a source that states he has dual passports, but as with footballers that doesn't alter how his national identity should be dealt with; or if it does we can and should alter the articles of other sportsmen/women. RegardsZaq12wsx (talk) 09:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I expressed my view in an attempt to cut through the b/s and reach a solution. I am not going to justify it further. Just as an aside, you won't find a more patriotic Brit than me, but sometimes these disputes get way out proportion. – ukexpat (talk) 13:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks for your promptness moving the Bathysphere article. The talk page for that article doesn't get much activity, so I was concerned this was going to be one of those move requests which ends up sitting there for a week or longer, and it's nice that you got to it after only around a day. --Captain Occam (talk) 14:18, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually it was moved by User:Anthony Appleyard, I just dealt with the talk page clean up. When you add the "requested move" template to a talk page, the request is automagically listed at WP:Requested moves. I watch that page and help out with moves that do not require admin intervention. – ukexpat (talk) 14:57, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for telling me that; I hadn't noticed it was moved by someone other than who closed the talk page discussion. I guess I should post a thank-you message for Anthony Appleyard also. --Captain Occam (talk) 15:02, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

re george eastman, who is credited in wiki bio as being the inventor of roll film. This honour belongs to (according to wiki under "roll film") peter hansen of Wisconsin, who invented the format in 1881 and had his younger brother to patent it. His patents and improvements were sold in 1889 (?) to eastman. Suma rongi (talk) 21:59, 5 March 2011 (UTC)