Talk:X-Men: First Class

Relationship with X-Men Origins: Magneto

Shouldn't there be some information on the development of the Magneto film on this article? Bryan Singer and Lauren Shuler Donner have both said that some elements of Magneto were incorporated ino this film?--60.228.14.89 (talk) 12:51, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Magneto is covered in the X-Men film series article. It doesn't belong in this article since its development was unrelated and independent of this film.-5- (talk) 15:31, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

But they are related. Even the XMO:Magneto section on the film series article cites Singer saying that First Class "supersedes" Magneto. In fact, the plot of this movie seems to be more about the origin of Magneto than the originally pitched plot of First Class involving Jean Grey and Scott Summers. This film is more a combination of the two concepts under the First Class title and just because "Magneto" is no longer in the title shouldn't mean it is omitted from this article.--60.228.14.89 (talk) 03:53, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Supersede means to "supplant" or "take the place of". The Magneto movie was abandoned, but it doesn't mean that it was incorporated into this film. There's no evidence of that. When Singer came along he brought with him a new storyline. That storyline happened to include more of the Magneto backstory, but there's no evidence that they took any ideas from the Magneto script and used them for this movie. When Singer uses the word "supersede" he is saying that this movie will cover similar material from that movie, yet this movie was developed independently from that movie. Unless you can find a source that says this movie's development was dependent on the Magneto movie, it doesn't need to be mentioned. Anything else would be original research.-5- (talk) 15:58, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Lauren Shuler Donner said that a lot of Magneto was incorporated into First Class here.--60.228.14.89 (talk) 00:59, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Then perhaps there can be a small mention of elements of that movie being incorporated into this one, but it would be very inappropriate to have a whole section about the development of that movie in this article. You don't see a whole section on Cameron's Spider-Man film in the 2002 Spider-Man film article, for instance, even though that film incorporated elements from his planned film. There is a small mention of Cameron's planned film, however, and likewise that may be appropriate here.-5- (talk) 03:15, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I added a mention of it in the Pre-production section.-5- (talk) 03:30, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Filming On Jekyll Island, GA

Hi. I haven't contributed to Wikipedia in a long time, so sorry if I did not format this properly. The sets have been built on Jekyll Island, GA, and supposedly they start shooting Monday. Word is, the scene is supposed to be on Cuba. It appears they have staged some sort of aircraft crash, as the prop department has some aircraft debris (engine, twisted metal, landing gear) and there is a huge chromakey backdrop in the shape of an airplane fuselage.

They have several cranes up, and I've watched them test the wire harness apparatus, which is also pretty interesting as well. Anyway, there are movie trailers all over the place, TCF trucks, etc. and supposedly they are closing the roads next week to start filming. I'll try to take a picture of the set (you can see it all from the beach side) and post it. 98.86.159.165 (talk) 03:19, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Teaser Poster

That's the smallest teaser poster i've ever seen!!! Would someone resize it or should I?--163.150.137.101 (talk) 19:17, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

It the biggest size available, per the source. Wildroot (talk) 08:18, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

References to use

• ‘X-Men:First Class’: Three exclusive photos and a report from the stressed-out set, latimes.com

References to use. Erik (talk | contribs) 13:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Relationship with X-Men Origins: Wolverine

Is X-Men: First Class, which features an adult Emma Frost as a villain, a reboot of the series? Wasn't Emma Frost already featured in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which is set in the 1970's, as a teenager? How can she be an adult in the 1960's and a teenager in the 1970's in the same film series? 173.180.89.129 (talk) 09:02, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Simple inconsistency. In X-Men Xavier says that Cyclops, Storm and Jean were his first students, but that's obviously no longer the case as none of them are in the movie. Furthemore Xavier and Magneto are in their 20s in this movie, and have their "falling out" at the end. Yet in the prologue of X-3 they are shown to be middle-aged, still friends and recruiting for the school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.3.61 (talk) 16:16, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I think that, yes the Emma Frost character is an inconsistency, but the missing Storm and Cyclops are not. Xavier says that they were his first students, but at this point in time he has no students. The people in this movie are his teammates, whereas Storm and Cyclops who come in the 70's or 80's are his students. Plus, are you sure that Xavier and Magneto have their fall out in this movie? I assumed that if this is a trilogy it would happen at the end.74.192.45.152 (talk) 04:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Official site

The "official site" (http://www.x-menfirstclassmovie.com) currently redirected to a facebook OFFICIAL page, that what's the problem? Matthew_hk tc 13:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Factions

Why do I keep getting reverted? I added the trailer as a source for the factions of Azazel and Riptide because it clearly shows them flanking Sebastian Shaw, all three dressed in identical tuxedo's. Shaw and Frost are already sourced as members of the Hellfire Club. As for the X-Men, the cast photo released earlier this year shows the entire lineup dressed in their uniforms. So what exactly is it about my edits that constitutes "original research"? Jake Corey (talk) 14:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

It's pure speculation on your part that the cast are split into factions. Whilst they may be on these "teams" this may not be how it plays out in the movie. It really isn't appropriate here, and the fact that many editors keep reverting this edit underlines this fact. It would only really be appropriate if the film splits the cast as such. Also, see other film articles which aren't split like this - how about X-Men (film) for an example. I will revert once again. Please do not split these factions unless consensus to do so is reached here. Rob Sinden (talk) 15:06, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

How is it speculation? There is an abundance of sources that states the Hellfire Club will be the villains, the official plot synopsis states that the film will deal with the formation of the X-Men and the Brotherhood and I personally added a link to the trailer which shows that Azazel and Riptide are members of the Hellfire Club. Also while some of the X-Men articles do not feature a divided cast X-3 does, and I feel it looks neater and more organized. I suggest we adopt this layout as standard because the teams that various characters belong to is an important factor in the stories. Jake Corey (talk) 16:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

PS: I'd appreciate it if you actually checked the content of my edits in the future, instead of mindlessly reverting everything I do. All I did in my last edit was remove the line that states Havok is Cyclops's brother, as Brian Singer has said that this is not the case. Jake Corey (talk) 16:40, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Insect wings girl

She appears at 0:55--0:57 in the trailer, any idea what character that's supposed to be? All I could think of is the Avenger's wasp, I don't see any character like this described in the credits. Dictabeard (talk) 02:39, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

That would be Angel Salvadore http://x-menfirstclass.blogspot.com/search/label/Angel%20Salvadore Damiantgordon (talk) 08:40, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Prequel or Reboot?

I'm not sure if this question has been posed or been assessed but I had heard debates as to whether or not this is actually a prequel or a reboot, I personally feel it is a reboot as one key issue has been used in support of this claim, this movie is set to take place in the 1960's and features a human Hank McCoy and his later transformation into the blue furred version but as seen in the film "X2", there is a cameo of Hank McCoy on a TV in a bar in his human form, thereby creating a plothole/paradox/etc. Does anyone have an answer to this quandary? - RVDDP2501 (talk) 20:09, 27 April 2011 (UTC)