User talk:Danger

This user is currently feeling discouraged about Wikipedia and is taking an off-and-on wikibreak due to loss of motivation.
They will return when their wikistress has dissipated, and their confidence in the wikicommunity has been restored.

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Cheer up

Hello Danger, Ilego has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
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I hope you are okay you are very nice Alex 21:27, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Whatever happened, shrug it off.

Wikipedia is an awesome communication and educational resource, and it will continue to grow and improve. Collaboration by people all around the world is what makes this happen. Caring and sharing. This is a wonderful thing, Wikipedia bringing the world's people together to improve the awareness and education of all. Please assure me that you will remain part of this effort.

For the World, The Transhumanist 05:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While have no doubt that Wikipedia is a wonderful thing for the world at large, I question whether it is a wonderful thing for me personally. It may be time for this old dog to be replaced by a new crop of idealists who are blissfully ignorant about how the sausage is made. Cynicism has little place in a fundamentally idealistic project like this, except, apparently, in the aforementioned sausage factories. I admire you for your lack of it.

On the other hand, I have little ability to avoid that which causes me stress. So be assured that my username will, at the very least, continue to appear on invertebrate related pages. Preventing the disparagement of worms is the least I can do. Danger (talk) 12:44, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Danger, Geoffjw1978 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, maybe >here<. (no pressure :-) Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
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A lot of the user talk pages I have visited have just such a finality to them with a shared common experience. Glad to find I'm not alone. I saw a great comment from A C Grayling today on development of knowledge gathering - "At times sceptical challenge has been seen as a serious threat to the project of attaining knowledge."^[ref1] He was talking about progress in the middle-ages. It appears Wikipedia finds itself maturing through its own dark ages. Just a few centuries for you to wait... Geoffjw1978 (talk) 23:13, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[ref1] Ideas that matter, by A C Grayling (2010), Page 168.

I also have an illness, and as a result did practically nothing at WP in 2010. At the start of 2011 I felt a little better and my enthusiasm recovered. I hope your enthusiasm recovers too, even if that means doing less at WP. Good luck. --Philcha (talk) 06:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to help improve Wikipedia's Ming Dynasty content...

I took your advice and reached out to Pericles; see User_talk:PericlesofAthens#Improving_Wikipedia.27s_Ming_Dynasty_content...

For the better part of 5 years I've felt outside of the Wiki discussion, so thank you for talking to me... --NickDupree (talk) 04:02, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I had hoped that you would phrase your post as a request for advice on how to proceed rather than a somewhat brusque message that comes off as a notice that the articles are in violation of policy (which is debatable, by the way). I see that I probably was not sufficiently clear in my previous messages about this. But I am pleased that you decided to contact him; given Pericles' expertise not only in the subject area but in constructing summary articles (he is the author of featured topics on the Han and Song Dynasties, though one may not still be featured), he would prove a valuable guide and ally.

Also, you indicate interest in improving disability rights and history related articles. I invite you to join WP:WikiProject Disability if you wish. I am a member and we have a few other excellent editors, but the task before us is, as you've probably noticed, a bit overwhelming.

You are, of course, quite welcome. If you need help with anything else, or want to talk, my wiki-door is ever open. Regards, Danger (talk) 04:32, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be a really nice and very knowledgeable ethereal entity that edits Wikipedia. I like you. And I also secretly want to be an ethereal entity--real life sucks.

I am very impressed with how far WikiProject disability has brought disability articles; when I started contributing back in 2005, Wikipedia's coverage of disability was something akin to a vacant moonscape! There are so many issues related to disability, organizing it all is an epic challenge. I want to find a way to contribute, so far I've been wary of writing in disability articles because my published work in the field and fearing my temptation to overstep the line into WP:SELFCITING and wanting to avoid that completely.

Re: the message to Pericles, I didn't mean to be brusque, and I didn't directly say "this article is in violation" (at least in the note to Pericles personally) but I tried to clarify in my most recent response to Pericles. My goal is to make it so people want to visit History of the Ming Dynasty for a more in-depth treatment of the subject; the current text of Ming Dynasty makes visiting History of the Ming Dynasty superfluous, maybe it doesn't have much of a Raison d'être yet. Though I love it here on Wikipedia, my major overhauls of articles have been few and far between, so I do worry about the community responding to my major edit with torches and pitchforks, and my reticence has kept me from editing yet. I'm looking for the courage to be WP:BOLD.

--NickDupree (talk) 02:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmph. I also wish that I (the keyboard operator behind Danger) were ethereal. But enough from that person. :)

I don't think WikiProject Disability can take much of the credit for the increased coverage. We're quite new; Dodger67 only started it in September '10. But I think having an overall view of what's here, what's still missing, and what needs work ASAP is helpful. I can't say that I have any reason to fear self-citing [ :( ], so I'm not sure how one deals with that precisely, but I do know that expert input is sorely needed, provided that said expert is not particularly wedded to promoting their own point of view. I think, if you're interested in doing some work in the area, that most of the project members are watching Disability, so they will probably jump in if you go first/keep an eye out for unintentional self-promoting. I also have an adoptee (Failedwizard) working on Alternative and augmentative communication, if you're interested in some copy-editing/second pair of eyes type work.

Regarding the Ming stuff, I think it'd be fine if you just jumped in. I've got the page on watch to stave off any pitchfork-related incidents. The reason we have the History of the Ming Dynasty article is because there was a significant amount of material that got left out of the main article, but it's mostly extra details interspersed into the text that appears in the main article. It's probably possible to trim the main article more, in which case the history focused article will seem more balanced. Does that seem reasonable? I'm not sure how much to worry about the identical wordings; on face, there's nothing too wrong with a little repetition across articles as long as the scopes of the articles are clearly different. Does that make sense? Danger (talk) 20:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And now that I see that you had that plan already with History of..., so you can disregard my repetitive advice. And indeed, I read your message as brusque, but I know that it wasn't intentional. I probably should have said that from what I know of Pericles you could have slapped a warning tag on his work and he'd be mellow, so, you know, just things to think about for the future interacting with less-awesome editors. Because, yeah, admin, I think about this stuff a lot. Man I feel sheepish. Danger (talk) 20:33, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The encouragement and advice from you and Pericles has been so invaluable, thank you so much. I'm going to go ahead and overhaul Ming Dynasty, trimming back and summarizing the content duplicated at History of the Ming Dynasty because I think it is crucial in order for further improvements to even be possible. Some of the most duplicative and detailed content will be deleted so people can view it over at History of the Ming Dynasty and one section moved to History of the Ming Dynasty. After a day or so more of notepad work, I'll make the big submit, and History of the Ming Dynasty will be the in-depth treatment of the subject, and Ming Dynasty will be a better-summarized overview (though my overhaul will only touch the history heading). Both articles will be better for it. Then... Then I will just pray greater editors (like you and Pericles) like and support the edits... --NickDupree (talk) 21:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I made the big submit... see Ming Dynasty and History of the Ming Dynasty.... NickDupree (talk) 05:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioned

Hello Danger. Your name was mentioned at WP:AE#Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Wikifan12345 as the former mentor of Wikifan12345. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 22:48, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Okay. I didn't know gender was considered outing. Anyways, a strike will still show my edit - so if this is a real issue perhaps an admin with the tools to erase edits should be called? Of course this convo would be removed as well. I know the importance of privacy. Wikifan12345 (talk) 19:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, should you drop a notice at EdJohnston's talk page? He/she referred to you as a man? Wikifan12345 (talk) 20:02, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's merely annoying when people use incorrect pronouns; Ed wasn't trying to make a statement of knowledge about my gender, since English traditionally defaults to male. Gender isn't explicitly listed at WP:OUTING... meh. I'll chance it. --Danger (talk) 20:19, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh... now there's dirt all over my mop. Danger (talk) 20:26, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Machine section needs sources...

Thank you for your note. I try to provide sources but our colleague Derek farn deletes them. I give up. Prof McCarthy (talk) 20:40, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I didn't see that you had done that. Thank you very much. At the very least having those recorded in the page history may be useful in the future. I'm very sorry that this experience is frustrating. C'est la Wikipedia, non? What I suggest is waiting a few days for any enmity toward Derek to cool and then asking if he would be willing to seek a third opinion. (If you need help creating the listing, let me know.) I also suggest listing the sources that you are using on the talk page, so that outside editors can see them right away without having to look through the page history. Of course, if you are absolutely finished with Wikipedia, then I'm sorry to see you go and I thank you for the contributions that you've made. Regards, Danger (talk) 20:56, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ban this user

Racist comment from a user you've warned previously — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lenrodman (talk • contribs) 14:17, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That diff is certainly very upsetting. Because this user is editing from an IP address and has not been active for a while, I cannot block them. I have, however, left a warning message on their talk page. Danger (talk) 20:57, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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