Talk:John Lennon

Time of death

Why is the time of death here marked with 11:07? In other documents, his death certificate is also linked here. That reads time of death "11:15" not "11:07". Is there a reason for 11:07?

Parsec9 (talk) 10:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Whatever Gets You Thru The Night & Elton John

The notes at the end of the article list Lennon's Billboard #1 singles.

Originally, it listed Lennon as having two as a solo musician and having one with Elton John (WGYTTN). The single release was not a John Lennon/Elton John release nor was it credited to the two as songwriters. Elton played on the track but this hardly constitutes the single as a Lennon/Elton song. In this vein, it would be like listing Imagine as John Lennon with Klaus Voorman simply because another musician famous outside of session work played on a track.

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH JOHN LENNON WE MISS YOU ♥ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.28.155.252 (talk) 20:23, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Therefore, I changed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hellobeatle (talk • contribs)

“Lost and found”

The main things that happened in this period seem to be: return to musicianship (activism now taking a back seat), the lost weekend, some not-so-notable albums (compared to the 1st 3 anyway), and a number 1 single. Wondering if we could have with a more literal section title, I tried, but couldn't come up with anything elegant. Any suggestions? — Wrapped in Grey (talk) 08:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy days are here again? Hotcop2 (talk) 15:06, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Let's take out all the verbiage and just have the dates. The text is a bit pretentious. --BwB (talk) 10:15, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Let's not get so drastic. We don't need the extensive review on "Mind Games" (that's on the album page, but everything else is consistent with the narrative of the article. Hotcop2 (talk) 15:06, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

One can only assume that you missed the intent of the question, which was, can/should the section title be changed to more-literally summarize its contents (like the others appear to do, to a certain extent at least)? Or, to put it another way, should we be writing tabloid-like (okay, so it's not quite that bad) or encyclopedia-like section titles?

As for the Mind games review, it should remain in some form since otherwise we tend towards: “then he released an album, then he released another album, ...” — Wrapped in Grey (talk) 17:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

It was called "The Lost Weekend" originally, which is what the paragraph's about. I'm on netbook which doesn't have tildes, I just noticed. Hotcop2

I'd go for that. (Should be some tildes in the edit tools panel). — Wrapped in Grey (talk) 20:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I found them lol Hotcop2 (talk) 00:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Sheesh, no poetry allowed, eh? "Lost Weekend" is fine, but so was "Lost and found", which was, dare I say, more poetic, as befits the subject. You'd think we were writing an article about shoes. But fine. Tvoz/talk 21:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Hypocrite?

Lennon wrote: "But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, You ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow", yet claims to be a Marxist? I'd say that means he's a hypocrite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.136.28 (talk) 21:09, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

This page is for discussion of the article, not the subject. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:29, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

He first said that was the key line of the song, but later stated that he regretted it. also, mao murdered thousands of people in the name of the revolution. Esen O (talk) 13:42, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

his ideas

Lenno had a crazy idea to drill holes in their haecd and put flowers in but paul said no way —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.75.64.18 (talk) 14:20, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Care to source this? 66.87.0.241 (talk) 07:16, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Paul McCartney

I think there should be a subheading under Relationships discussing his friendship with Sir Paul McCartney, especially during the Quarrymen/Beatle years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.101.152.182 (talk) 23:34, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

John Lennon's name

It's simple, yet, I guess it might be important, too. I think it should be written as: "John Ono Lennon, born John Winston Lennon" as he later gave up the name Winston -given after prime minister Wİnston Churchill- and took up Yoko Ono's surname. The Ono surname can create confusion and giving up his middle name was an imortant thing. Esen O (talk) 13:47, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Such a statement would require reliable 3rd party sources to verify your statement. Mabuska ^(talk) 14:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Although it was reported at the time that he had changed his middle name from Winston to Ono, legally he could only add Ono but not remove Winston so his legal name was John Winston Ono Lennon. Piriczki (talk) 14:41, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Broken references

I fixed some broken {{Sfn}} citations in this article (thanks to User:Ucucha/HarvErrors), but couldn't fix those to Clark 2002 (current ref 189), Mismo 2002 (ref 190) and Songwriters Hall of Fame 2009 (ref 253), because the full citation for none of these is listed. Could someone add those citations? Ucucha 09:44, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Sean Lennon

A brief note should be added the Sean Lennon section that his godfather is Elton John. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andyprod1 (talk • contribs) 02:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

It's in Sean's article, which is where it needs to be. Hotcop2 (talk) 11:26, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

MBE

Should he still have MBE following his name considering he returned it? Jefe (talk) 12:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

My understanding is that although he returned the physical medal he received, the actual postnominal title remains and can only be revoked not renounced. freshacconci talktalk 12:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Fred Seaman

Obviously the Fred Seaman stuff about how Lennnon switched to conservatism at the end of his life but didn't tell anyone but Seaman should be edited to include that fact that Seaman stole hundreds of personal items from John Lennon. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/sep/28/arts.artsnews 68.188.25.170 (talk) 02:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Fred Seaman

Obviously the Fred Seaman stuff about how Lennnon switched to conservatism at the end of his life but didn't tell anyone but Seaman should be edited to include that fact that Seaman stole hundreds of personal items from John Lennon. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/sep/28/arts.artsnews 68.188.25.170 (talk) 02:54, 4 July 2011 (UTC)