Talk:Return to Zork

Conversions

The platforms listed here and on mobygames seem to be bollocks, at least I can not think of Return to Zork running on an Apple II and I found no mention besides versions for Macintosh and MS-DOS on the interwebs. Does anyone have a reliable source for any conversions? -- Darklock 13:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Correct. Mac and DOS were it. There was no Apple II version. I worked on the game, so this unfortunately can't be cited ("original research"). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.24.101 (talk) 07:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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The weed is a poor example of an unwinnable action in the game. If it is damaged, you can destroy it and return to the mountain pass later on to dig out a new one. --AlphaEtaPi 16:45, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I only found that out by reading a walkthrough recently - the first time I got to the Comedy Club and found I needed it, it had died long ago so I restarted... It was obscure to me, as I tended not to go round setting fire to stuff for fun (No, that's a lie - but not when I wanted to win)...

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The info was hidden deeply in the files at the Mayor's office (that bonding plants grow back when one is destroyed) if I remember correctly... Now, "obscure" was getting the keys from that drunken fool - I guessed the trick since I remembered Monkey Island 2 and the Near Grog (which I think this ripped off in that respect) but I never thought to ask him for them at a particular time.

Also, on the subject of unwinnable situations, if you dropped all your belongings on the ground before you broke the rules (eg: killing a character, reading the letter etc), as long as the character served no further purpose you could still go on and complete the game - the wandering guy just took all your belongings which ordinarily would result in you being unable to complete the game. However, if you had dropped them already before you left the area and triggered him, you could just go back pick them up after he had ranted at you a bit and carry on. AFAIK, the 'path to victory' never actually became blocked in any literal sense... --Divinedegenerate 00:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

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I'm friends with, have worked for, and interviewed the game designer, Mark Long of Zombie Studios, Seattle WA in 1999, so I have added some of his game design philosophy, real historical references, and his motivation to avoid things in earlier text-adventures that he felt were "boring and annoying". I had never played the game until I interviewed him, and played the copy he gave me for three days w/little sleep to finish it the first time. WinkJunior (talk) 23:30, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Notebook entry

Slightly off-topic, does anyone remember how to get this entry?

The Vultures: Vultures arrived in the Valley of the Sparrows and immediately began stealing.

I've got a detailed list of how each notebook entry ties in to the conversations in the game but I haven't figured that one out.--BigCow 19:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

A question

Why don't the sounds, voices and videos work on XP? Does it have anything to do with XP being NT-based instead of DOS-based? Unsigned Comment:—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.76.162.34 (talk)

It's probably a driver issue, I've gotten the voices to work on XP personally. A couple things you can try include using a program like VDMSound or Dosbox to emulate older drivers, which should make it work fine on XP.--BigCow 06:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

This is a page advising how to set it up under Windows XP, for me setting the sound driver to logictech, the music driver to pro audio spectrum, and running in vdmsound got it working perfectly.--BigCow 06:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

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2nd Plant

The main page says: "Although the plant is essential later on, it is very easy to unintentionally kill it, and the game gives little indication that the plant is important. (It is in fact possible to obtain a new one, although the secret is well-hidden and arguably makes little sense even after it is accomplished, a criticism that is often levelled at many of the game's puzzles, despite being clearly documented in the game's major source of hints)" This needs a source, but I'm more interested in knowing where that second plant is than in improving the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Subcelestial (talk • contribs) 18:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

A new one will grow when the first one is destroyed (not only dead; destroyed, such as eaten or burnt) and some time has passed. Either at its original location at the Mountain Pass, but I also seem to remember a bonding plant growing right next to the shield under the Cliffs of Depression saying "Bonding plant required" - but don't quote me on that. --188.102.233.226 (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2011 (UTC)