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November 2011
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to List of past Hollyoaks characters, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. stop formatting the dates D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:44, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
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It was meant to be corrective not constructive. The Dates list looks incomplete without all the digits.82.38.49.218 (talk) 22:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
- WP:YEAR states that the dates should be formatted. If you disagree with the manual of style you can bring it up here D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
It's a highly flawed and misguided style. The information looks more presentable with all the digits shown. If its only a small unimportant part of a larger page then thats one thing because it doesn't stand out as much but on a long list of dates such as the Hollyoaks one it looks out of place82.38.49.218 (talk) 22:55, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
- We just go by the MOS D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:57, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Please do not use styles that are unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles, as you did in List of Coronation Street characters. There is a Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. Thank you. You've been told where to go if you have a problem with an aspect of the MoS. Please do not continue to ignore advice and policy. - JuneGloom Talk 13:09, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Sorry how are they unusual or difficult to understand. They seem pretty straightforward to me. Are you insinuating that most Wikipedia users are simple or thick? The Manual of Style is completely flawed and misguided and cannot possibly be adhered to when its "rules" don't seem to make logical sense. My "special" reason as you claim it is, is that the information posted is inaccurate and the general style looks lazy as if it has been put together by children of primary school age. With not all the digits added the list looks incomplete, the same with not all the relevant absences added82.38.49.218 (talk) 13:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
- I really don't know what to do here. You won't discuss your issues with WP:YEAR at the MoS talk page and I'm pretty sure you're just going to continue changing the years no matter how many warnings we give you. So, I've asked an admin for advice and I think List of Coronation Street characters may need to be protected until this issue is resolved. - JuneGloom Talk 22:42, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
If I knew where to find the MoS talk page believe me I would give them my opinions but I can't do that unless someone gives me a link to the page so I can do so.82.38.49.218 (talk) 13:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
- Just quoting myself "If you disagree with the manual of style you can bring it up here" not to sound rude but i had already provided a link and you just blatantly ignored it. Take it up there if you want. D4nnyw14 (talk) 15:57, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
I apologize I didn't see the link. Much obliged.82.38.49.218 (talk) 11:53, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use disruptive, inappropriate or hard-to-read formatting, as you did at List of Coronation Street characters, you may be blocked from editing. There is a Wikipedia Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. RaintheOne BAM 03:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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This is your last warning. The next time you make disruptive edits to Wikipedia contrary to the Manual of Style, as you did at List of past Hollyoaks characters, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. RaintheOne BAM 03:55, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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I think the best advice is put some valid points foward at that discussion with the aim of change - it is how things operate here. However, you have continued to to change date formats at the above articles... You have been given a fair run so far and I'm pretty sure you understand by now that you need approval or some kind of community consensus before making mass changes to articles.RaintheOne BAM 03:58, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
How am I being disruptive. I have not removed information from any pages. In fact I have added it and completed a list which as I have already explained, looks unfinished without all the digits. How is adding two extra digits Disruptive? I would say it was more corrective than disruptive. I have consulted the manual of style but it seems I have been ignored. What else am I supposed to do?82.38.49.218 (talk) 11:53, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Believe me I would love it if someone else came forward and agreed with me on the points I made.82.38.49.218 (talk) 12:01, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
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, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Ronhjones (Talk) 23:59, 17 November 2011 (UTC)- If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
How on earth is my editing disruptive? I have not removed any information, in fact I have added information instead and corrected mistakes. The rules on Wikipedia are absolute rubbish and completely nonsensical.82.38.49.218 (talk) 14:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
How is adding more digits to a duration list and adding the relevant absences of an actor disruptive? This is completely ridiculous that I have been blocked for ADDING information. What sort of mindset do people have on Wikipedia because it does not make sense in the slightest. What planet do you lot live on?82.38.49.218 (talk) 14:29, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
I have added information not removed it. All I can do is repeat myself till my fingers ache because I cannot for the life of me understand what I did that was in any way disruptive.82.38.49.218 (talk) 21:34, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- You repeatedly readded information that didn't follow the Manual of Style. You didn't add information that wasn't there just digits which doesn't affect how the information is understood. If you think the rules are rubbish then why keep editing here? Wikipedia is a group effort and we go against what the majority of people agree with and the majority of people don't agree with you so you can't just take matters into your own hands.D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:39, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
The manual of style as I have repeatedly stated is not reliable. I have also stated on the discussion page for that and I will continue to do so. The characters list looks incomplete without all of its digits attached. I will campaign for the rules to be changed and hopefully they will be sometime in the future until I have been able to persuade whoever is in charge.82.38.49.218 (talk) 22:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
I don't what I have to do to satisfy everyone on here. I have tried to reason with you all but nothing I do seems to work. Everything I do seems to be wrong.82.38.49.218 (talk) 22:12, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- No one is in charge, its a group consensus. It is a matter of opinion that it looks incomplete. It doesn't matter if you state that the manual of style is unreliable it doesn't make it true, the manual of style works and unless the majority changes there mind then the rules are unlikely to be changed. You probably can't satisfy everyone on here, but if you can't change the rules you need to accept it. Maybe you should try making edits other than just changing things that go against the consensus if you wan't to be treated with more respect. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
I have tried making edits before but again I have been told my editing has been disruptive so this time I have tried to ensure this is not the case. It seems that the rules of Wikipedia are made up as you go along and that the general rule is "do it our way or don't do it at all"82.38.49.218 (talk) 23:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- no its do it the way the majority have agreed is better to do it and don't go against the majoirty. D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:09, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Well your all flawed then the lot of you. Carry on blocking me all you like. I'll just wait for the blocks to expire then carry on.82.38.49.218 (talk) 23:48, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- Then you'll be blocked again, you've just proved that the blocking was right, you are disruptive and have just admitted it.D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:08, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- Well that is the incorrect attitude to have while on a block. I fail to see how unblocking you will be productive in the slightest.RaintheOne BAM 00:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Because I'll probably do a better job than the rest of you.82.38.49.218 (talk) 00:17, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- I think you also need to have a read through WP:PERSONAL - If you disagree with with something on Wikipedia, it is up to any individual to bring about their view through a good old discussion. We usually have a little decorum when doing so, especially if we would like another to consider our point of view. This may or may not be your failing so far, but it certainly has not helped. Comments in the field of "I'm better than you, I know best, I'm right - you're wrong" only fuel the fire. Then when you go and show no respect for consensus and keep changing dates - it highlights an issue, that you are housing a view that no one elses viewpoint matters but your own. If we all carried ourselves like that here, the project just wouldn't work. This is why we use consensus, we stay true to the collaboration and build off a common view.RaintheOne BAM 00:51, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Good luck to you all then. I give up and I admit defeat. Its your website your rules and yes I accept I can't do anything about it as I'm in the minority. Farewell and apologies if I offended anyone.82.38.49.218 (talk) 13:12, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at List of Emmerdale characters, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. You said you would stop changing date layouts - atleast stick to what you say RaintheOne BAM 22:57, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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Go ahead then. I've got nothing to lose.82.38.49.218 (talk) 23:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
I couldn't resist. Whenever I see a mistake I have the urge to correct it and couldn't help myself.82.38.49.218 (talk) 23:06, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
You'll just have to block me then. I won't stop otherwise.82.38.49.218 (talk) 23:15, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Ronhjones (Talk) 00:51, 20 November 2011 (UTC)- If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
- I would urge you to try to work with the editors here, not unilaterally against them. All pages on Wikipedia are created by consensus, not by the style of a single editor. If there is a certain manual of style for a section of articles (that's quite common), then we all have to conform to that style, or suggest and obtain agreement to change that style - usually on the manual of style's talk page. Blocks for a action that has previously caused a block will always result in a longer block. We never normally indefinitely block an IP address, but blocks of 1 year are not uncommon. Ronhjones (Talk) 01:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Well they make it impossible for me to do so. I cannot work with people with whom I have a difference of opinion. I look forward to the 27th November.82.38.49.218 (talk) 13:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
What have I done now?82.38.49.218 (talk) 12:40, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
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