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JCPenney needs to be moved to JCP. The logo suggests that the company is now known as JCP. (Note: people who remember it from before 2012 will always remember it as JCPenney, but this is merely one's memory of the past.) Georgia guy (talk) 14:34, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose. The "JCP" in the logo is a mere abbreviation; see File:JCP Frisco.jpg as evidence that the full name is still being used on stores. And this should have been formatted as a multi-move; as it is, Talk:J.C. Penney needs to be notified of this discussion. PowersT15:13, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Web site is still jcpenney.com, and you may have noticed a spate of recent news articles on the chain, all of which refer to the company and its stores as "J.C. Penney". PowersT15:15, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, but I'm not the one making a positive claim that the name has changed. Have any stores switched away from using the full name in favor of just "jcp"? PowersT17:58, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No. Am I supposed to just take your word for it that all 1,100 stores received and installed new exterior signage in the last month? PowersT18:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It might take until August according to what one news article reveals, but the new logo is already the official logo.
But when Kusunose said there was no indication of primacy, your reply seemed to say that you felt that the primary topic issue was immaterial and that you'd be equally happy with JCP (firm). PowersT14:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm confused. What exactly is the scope of this request? Looking at the dab page, I might actually agree that the department store could be the primary topic for "JCP", and should redirect to JCPenney. As I stated above, though, the store article should stay at the longer name because it's still the common name for the store. Dohn joe (talk) 16:52, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Which is, in turn, because people who remember it from before a very recent change in its logo still know it by that name. Sometimes new names are hard for people to get used to. Georgia guy (talk) 16:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You have yet to provide any concrete evidence of a name change aside from the new logo. The web site is still jcpenney.com, the corporate name is still J.C. Penney, and news articles still refer to both stores and company as "J.C. Penney". PowersT15:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose No evidence that this is the primary topic. Here in the United Kingdom, the letters JCP are usually a reference to the Japanese Communist Party! Skinsmoke (talk) 20:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
