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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Ltezl (talk | contribs) at 22:16, 19 April 2012 (→‎MSU Research Questions: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Just in case anyone wants to talk to me.... Peridon (talk) 20:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Back numbers of this magazine can be found at: User talk:Peridon/Archives/2008/November User talk:Peridon/Archives/2009/May User talk:Peridon/Archives/2010/February User talk:Peridon/Archives/2010/January[reply]

The rest of this is archived somewhere. There's a nice little bot comes in and tidies up. (Could do with one at home...) Not quite sure where it puts the stuff, but I'm working on it... Meantime, copy one of the above and change the date to suit - or look at the little archive box that Jean Calleo gave me.

Please add messages at the bottom of the page so I can find them. Thanks. Do put a heading inside == == and sign with ~~~~. If you don't get a reply from me (or one of the stalkers...) within a reasonable time, you've probably not read this. If you have read it and ignored it, it's your own fault. If you haven't read it, READ IT NOW. Another reason to post at the bottom is that if you post at the top and someone else posts at the bottom, I'll see their message, but won't suspect there's another. Up to you. Ignore this if you want. Just don't blame me.

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copyvio issue

Your edit summary states: Not copyvio - source is licensed under Creative Commons CC BY-NC-SA. However, the NC is a problem. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright and note it is in the list of licenses not compatible.

However, I think the article has been sufficiently rewritten, and in particular, the copied material is now used as a quote, with a reference, and is sufficiently short, I don't view this as a copyvio. It may well have other issues, but I'll leave those to others.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 11:54, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that - missed the NC... Peridon (talk) 12:01, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock Account

I would like to formally apologize that our original draft was deemed inappropriate and request that our account be unblocked. Since our “speedy deletion”, we have revised our initial article draft, keeping a neutral and objective stance, and removing any content that could be construed as marketing. If unblocked, we intend to follow standard guidelines and make useful contributions to the network and its readers. As you know, the industry has numerous pages to inform users about all of our competitors and therefore we should be allowed to have an entry to provide factual information about our firm and the areas in which we work.

With regards to our user name, we would like to use “ScottMadden, Inc.”, not User:ScottMadden/sandbox. We will follow standard protocol for updating this name.

Thank you in advance for your consideration. I look forward to speaking with you shortly.

70.46.255.210 (talk) 18:39, 16 April 2012 (UTC)maryhall@scottmadden.com[reply]

Sorry, it's the ScottMadden bit that's the problem, namewise. That must not be in the name - see WP:USERNAME. As to competitors, the existence of any article does not entitle anything else to have an article WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. This isn't a directory, it's an encyclopaedia. On somewhere like AboutUs, you might be able to claim that because BloggsCo had a profile, you should - but you wouldn't need to as they are open for anyone. Here, we have a nasty habit of insisting on notability - please see WP:CORP for corporate notability and WP:RS for the reliable independent sources need to prove it. Your competitors might have notability shown - they might have escaped notice like that sandbox did. If they don't, please feel free to tag them (but be sure of the policies first...). As to the references you put in that sandbox draft, articles BY the company don't count for notability. It's articles ABOUT the company by someone outside we want. Not things containing stuff like "'Blah di blah di rhubarb,' says Fred Bloggs, the CEO of BloggsCo, our company of the hour." Press releases are out, as are blogs, forums, PRWire, wikis, AboutUs, LinkedIn and the usual suspects like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Finally, you are really supposed to post unblock requests on your talkpage, unless that's been revoked - no, just looked and you can edit your talkpage (sometimes people get to be a total nuisance and have to be stopped). Admins don't unblock from requests on their talkpages (not commonly, anyway, unless there's been a real mistake made). You will need to use the spamun template and avoid both Scott and Madden in the new name. Be prepared for some conditions - editing about your own company is not really advised and do realise that the article may be edited by anyone. I say this remembering a chap who had a vanity article posted. We were discussing deleting it (and he was fighting tooth and nail), when all of a sudden, someone posted some very interesting stuff - and referenced it very well. We all decided to keep it then, but the subject started fighting tooth and nail to get it deleted... He failed. Even though you write an article, you don't own it (see WP:OWN), and you cannot control other editors - so long as they are giving proper referencing. This doesn't need saying most of the time, but I prefer to get it in early. Just in case... Peridon (talk) 19:58, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Salting Remember Our Story Eternally worthwhile?

Hey, Peridon, I saw that you deleted this article. It's been created by the same user three times now, and each time it reads exactly the same (IIRC). Is it time to salt the page? Writ Keeper 20:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've messaged the author - perhaps an explanation will keep it away. I usually allow four goes before salting, but it's an option sooner. See how this goes - I feel he's genuine and in need of guidance more than salt. Peridon (talk) 20:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, thanks. Writ Keeper 20:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm alive and kicking! Doing a paper on paper money, and found this horror of an article, written just a few months ago by a purported sockpuppet of a banned user. Eek! I'm being rude. It may not be a horror, but it's not good. Wanna take a look? It's right up your alley. I was going to nominate it for deletion, but don't really know how to or have the time. Off and running..... and very best wishes! Yopienso (talk) 21:20, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seen you around here and there, so I wasn't worrying... Numismatics up my street? I've sold a heck of a lot more stamps than coins... I've just, through this, discovered what I consider a beautiful American coin, the Sacagawea dollar (most are cluttered or banal or difficult to my mind - I don't like the reverse of our current UK coins either, and the letter I sent to the Mint was not really repeatable here). I agree with the admin that blocked the author - this seems to me to pass WP:DUCK. (Or do I mean fail? Whatever, I hear something quacking.) They don't seem to have appealed, which confirms my suspicions. Compared with Coins of the United States dollar, this article is untidy, but contains info not there. If you like, I'll put it at AfD and hope for someone to volunteer to merge or rewrite. Not really what AfD is for, but I've not come up yet with an idea for doing what I often want - pressuring volunteers to improve things. Using AfD is possibly cruelty to the anti-deletionists. but it works... I'd think that separating paper and coin would be a good idea. Let me know what you think. PS - How do you all manage over there with all that sort of grey-green paper money? Ours is colour and size coded (although our £20s look as if the colour has run in the wash... Peridon (talk) 18:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You're a dear old bear. You are right, the Sacagawea dollar is beautiful. It's considered a flop, though--nobody used it. We aren't used to dollar coins; guess we're stuck on a wrinkled green George W.! Or maybe we're used to silver-colored coins. Or maybe we're still racist and chauvinist?? The Eisenhower dollar was well received, I believe, but didn't circulate much; it was/is hoarded. I've never been given either in change. (But I nearly always pay with plastic!) A number of years ago our notes from $5 and up started turning pastel to thwart counterfeiters. (Do they really counterfeit 5s and 10s?? Or do some engravers just need a job?) They looked funny, but I'm getting used to them. OK, that proves it--I have folding dollars, but not clinking ones. Also, I worked a cash register for several summers and never got metal dollars. Ergo, the coins just don't circulate. Cheers! Juana la Iguana. Yopienso (talk) 22:10, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 16 April 2012

While moving a template, this was created by me. I m sorry. Please fix it. Thanks Yasht101 05:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted the two non-existent users, and corrected IPL1... Hope that's what you wanted, anyway. Peridon (talk) 17:49, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Yasht101 04:52, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MSU Research Questions

Hello, I am involved with a research project for Michigan State University and am wondering if you would be able to answer a few questions regarding tool sets on Wikipedia. What were the tools you mainly used prior to becoming an admin, and after becoming an admin? Here is a link to the project if you are interested Wikipedia:United States Education Program/Courses/Wiki-Project Management (Jonathan Obar) , and if you have any questions please let me know. Thanks! Ltezl (talk) 22:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]