Talk:IOS version history

4.0.1

New software has been released to apparently "fix" the iPhone 4's signal issue. Can we update the article to accommodate this? 80.229.169.189 (talk) 19:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

iPhone OS release dates assumes America / Northern Hemisphere

The release date of iPhone OS 4.0 for the iPad in the Version History is listed as Fall 2010, in the Southern Hemisphere we receive the iPhone OS Updates at the same time as the Northern Hemisphere so the season reference has little meaning.

Richardwooding (talk) 08:17, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Name mismatch

Someone got the cart in front of the horse here. The parent article (iPhone OS) is currently back at its original name until a proper discussion takes place on the appropriate name. This article needs to do the same to keep in sync with the parent. Only when the parent article is renamed should this one be. --StuffOfInterest (talk) 19:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Move has been performed. Airplaneman ✈ 23:58, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Order of Versions

How about rearranging these so the newest versions goes upper most? 78.169.145.220 (talk) 12:12, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Section edits

Why don't I see any edit options beside any of the sections in this article? They seem to be appearing on any other random article I check, and I can't find any code removing them.--Crossmr (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Found it, it was tucked a couple sections down. There is no reason to do that to articles.--Crossmr (talk) 23:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

[1], those "awful" edit boxes are useful for editing the article. That is what we do here. Having to load an entire page to make one small change is ridiculous.--Crossmr (talk) 23:46, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

iOS 4.0 NOT RELEASED YET

Can someone please change 4.0 back to a "Future Release"? Currently, iTunes shows that 3.1.3 is the current version, meaning 4.0 has yet to come out.

Shanem201 (talk) 16:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Table of Contents

Is there a way to edit the table of contents box at the top to have an ordered list using roman numerals, or letters, or something different than numbers? They end up combining with the versioning system and makes it very difficult to read. Rukaribe (talk) 06:37, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree, but I haven't seen it done on any other pages so I do not know how to change it :/ Dylan (talk) 15:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree too. There is a way to do it I believe, if someone knows can they please fix it to be easier to read. Jimthing (talk) 08:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

After years of reading wikipedia, I finally created an account just now to say how horrible that table of contents is to read. Maybe just adding 'iOS' between the list numerics and the version number? Mattmed (talk) 12:51, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, so I went ahead and put iOS between the list numbers and version number. It definitely makes it easier to read. I also limited the TOC so it didn't list all the versions because the TOC was way too long. Jd2157 (talk) 00:37, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

FaceTime for iPad

This has not been confirmed for iPad in iOS 4.1. It has however been confirmed for iPod Touch using an e-mail address to communicate through FaceTime. It is impossible to confirm this feature until the iPad's version of iOS comes out for developers OR until Apple officially announces such feature will come in 4.1. As of right now 4.1 isn't even for the iPad Device. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IchigoKurosaki (talk • contribs) 19:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Good point, I'll delete it. Ianprime0509 ^Talk 19:27, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

The iPod touch hardware doesn't have a camera yet, so while there may be some evidence of support for the feature in the code for iOS 4.1, any actual suggestion of FaceTime on iPod touch is simply rumor and speculation at this time. And thus, per WP:SPECULATION, I'm deleting mention of the misleading feature listing. WildCowboy (talk) 13:16, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Feature breakdown per device needed

When a new iOS is released not all features of the new iOS will be available on the older devices. Some features will be available. Needed: A breakdown of features into table rows with a column for each device (iTouch, 3G, 3GS, 4, iPad) so that features can be marked available or unavailable for a particular device running a particular iOS. Column marks will be (p) present (n) not present (u) unknown or something like that. I may jump in and do it. Any thoughts on this proposed breakdown?

I agree, it would make it easier to see. In fact, I wish there were multiple-table views, so users could see the info displayed in a number of differing ways as they needed. Is that something that could be done somehow, much as databases give results as the user requires? Jimthing (talk) 08:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Why aren't table cells top-aligned?

Some of the cells' contents are incredibly long, and center-aligning the contents of all cells means you have to scroll down a ways to see what iOS version and other details are involved. Why not top-align the cells? Corixidae | Talk - Contributions 17:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

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Ping

Ping is listed as becoming available in ios 4.1, but it is already available in 4.0.2. Is this right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.40.197 (talk) 12:41, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Nope. Ping is new in iOS 4.1. The encyclopedia is correct. ~NerdyScienceDude 13:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I have ios 4.0.2 and I have ping though —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.204.29 (talk) 12:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree with NerdyScienceDude, Ping is in iOS 4.1. Refer to the Apple iPhone page for evidence. Momo san ^Gespräch 02:43, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

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Ping on 4.0.2 reprise

I guess this is moot now that 4.1 has been released, but contrary to Apple's software update page Ping did exist in 4.0.2: screenshot here. It did not appear however until my first sync with iTunes 10, which roughly coincided with the release of iOS 4.1. Rup (talk) 11:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Ping in iTunes on the iPhone is even available on iOS 4.0.1, since it is simply showing you web content. It would probably be good to note that although Apple advertises that it is "new" with iOS 4.1, it is still available on iOS 4.0.x. Wikipedia XP (talk) 03:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Clarity of 4.1 bug fix: "iPhone 3G speed problems"

This item, I think, is ambiguous and can be easily interpreted by readers as either: A) Fixing the 3G model's performance under iOS 4 or B) Improving 3G network performance for all applicable iPhones

I replaced it with "iPhone 3G's performance problems under iOS 4.0" as it is closer in meaning to its citation.

129.114.210.39 (talk) 15:16, 8 September 2010 (UTC)JeremyM

Where is 3.1.1?

The table skips from Firmware 3.1 to 3.1.2, thus skipping 3.1.1. I just read it closer, forget this question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.195.77.49 (talk) 03:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

4.2 -> Added support for Chinese URL over Safari

To Momo san: Source added. Don't reverte it again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex1236hk (talk • contribs) 17:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

4.2.1

I don't want an edit war so I try to get consensus via the talk page. It now appears that version 4.2 will never be released and Apple will release version 4.2.1 instead. I modified the 4.2 header in the version history to 4.2.1 but this was reverted in the favor of a new 4.2.1 header. I don't think this is the way to go, 4.2 will never be released and the changes that 4.2 would have brought will be exposed to the public in the 4.2.1 release and this is what the table should reflect. There could be a line at the top that could say something like: "Originally intended as the 4.2 release but to last minute bugs released as 4.2.1" or something like that. To sum up the table should only include official released versions with their changes so the 4.2 header should just be changed to 4.2.1 and not two separate version with one as "unreleased".Cyzor (talk) 21:44, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

I absolutely agree. 4.2 was never available to the public, therefore, not a release. DixieLeeRest (talk)

I agree as well. 4.2.1 is what was released, although it is marketed and referred to as 4.2. Wikipedia XP (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC).

Tables: equal column widths & addition of bottom headers

Under all the tables for "Version history: iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad", and the single one for "Version history: Apple TV"; can the column widths be made the same size for ALL tables, instead of one table having a wider column for say "Release date" than the one underneath it and they therefore do not align themselves from each table as you scroll down the page.

And can the column headers at the top (Version, Build, Baseband, Release date, Features) be added to the bottom of each table, as these tables have very long columns and you have to scroll all the way to top if you want to see them again. Please see the other table issues on this talk page as well. Jimthing (talk) 09:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Both fixed. (Note: device refs, eg. P1, P2, P3, etc, can screw this up if not dropped to next line; see 3.1.2) Jimthing (talk) 10:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

4.2.1 removed "Internet tethering" settings

Hello,

After I updated my iPhone 3GS to IOS 4.2.1, it no longer displayed the Settings > Network > "Tethering" options. Tethering was a main feature that I welcomed as part of the IOS 4.x new release. It was displayed on the earlier 4.x releases. If someone could confirm and update the article, that would be great.

All the best, Ed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferrero1 (talk • contribs) 01:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Revised Springboard Scrolling?

Can whoever added this (or anyone) elaborate on exactly how the springboard scrolling changed? gujamin (talk) 18:36, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I smell an ad.

"Now you can play your entire iTunes library from anywhere in the house. If it’s on your Mac or PC, you can play it on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch over a shared Wi-Fi network. And not just music. Watch a movie or TV show. Play a podcast. Or listen to an audiobook. On whichever device you want — without having to download or sync." Sure sounds like an ad to me. Should say, "Ability to stream iTunes library to your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch" or something like that. This is under 4.3, just so you know. --Wernjump (talk) 03:11, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

4.3

I have recently upgraded to 4.3 and found a new feature that I can't see mentioned - the mail app has a Mark As Unread button. I downloaded this feature from Cydia with 4.2.1, but, as far as I know, the upgrade has deleted all the jailbreak apps. Can someone confirm that this feature is made by Apple.

XsandaOS (talk), who uses an iPod Touch 4G iOS 4.3 (ex-jailbroken) —Preceding undated comment added 10:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC).

Yes that feature is from the original non-jailbroken iOS and it has been there even before 4.3 (Well as far as I know my Yahoo! address has had that). You have to press 'Details' then 'Mark as Unread' appears next to the date.Esebi95 (talk) 21:39, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Collapse Tables

I think some Collapsing needs to be used on each 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 headings ect. Because the article takes a very long time to scroll through. And the first 1.0 update is pretty irrelevant for people now since it was 5 years ago back in 2007 since the first release. Alexcanton (talk) 12:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

First of all, it should be written because that's an iOS. secondly, it was released in 2007, 4 years ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.178.207.129 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

iPod touch 4G

in the section of iOS 4.0 description it says that iPod touch 4G is supported, although it is released only when iOS 4.1 comes out. 79.178.207.129 (talk) 19:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Apple TV2 software version and iOS version confusion

The versioning of the Apple TV software is so similar to iOS versioning it's constantly causing confusion. People regularly update the page here with the wrong Apple TV Software numbers despite the reference: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4448. From that page it's fairly clear that Apple TV Software 4.1 was the initial release and 4.2.2 is the latest. It's also clear from the atv2 menu under Settings > General > About. By default it displays the Apple TV Software version and pressing the select button shows the iOS build version. Jd2157 (talk) 14:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

iOS 5 beta on CDMA iPhone

Ok, according to iModZone, there is a 5.0 beta for CDMA iPhone's... Is this a mistake on this page or did they mod something in the firmware? --Cole Johnson (talk) 23:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

iPad 2 Baseband

There are iPad 2 Wi-Fi + 3G models, but there is no Baseband number on 4.3.x for the iPad 2. 79.181.235.163 (talk) 16:41, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation request

Having just typed in a search for IOS version history, I was expecting to see a page on Cisco's IOS notable for it's use in Cisco switches and routers. Instead I was directed here. Could someone create a disambiguation page for IOS? I'm not experienced enough for that. --Sdoradus (talk) 01:50, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Collapsible Sections

This page has gotten too long and cumbersome to read. What if the older, obselete versions had their tables collapsed within a collapsable header with some summary, or link to the main article, like so?

ios version 1.0 The first iOS was released with the first iPhone. iOS version 1 ...detailed table here...

Shencypeter (talk) 04:20, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree with this idea. The tables themselves are extremely long, and the initial releases and major updates have single rows that are very tall and require lots of scrolling on their own. Anyone else like the idea of collapsing the older versions, say, 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0 for iPhone? JohnnyJ7788 (talk) 19:34, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Wikipedians here are eagerly adding anticipated features to the iOS version 5 to care about "housekeeping"... but I did find out that anchor links will not work unless the version "sections" are visible... Shencypeter (talk) 09:04, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, great idea. I have actually done the same for the v3/v4 releases too, as they are not going to be receiving any more updates so are effectively "past" references only. However, the only thing I am unsure of is the best practice with regard to the Contents anchors you mention, as they don't link down the page when users click on them ...surely there must be another way of making the collapse sections open if an anchor is clicked on (I'm sure I have seen this on another WP page somewhere before?). Anyone know? (Please fix if you can.)  ;-) --Jimthing (talk) 09:54, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

The best way I could find to deal with the TOC links not working (because sections weren't expanded) was to set a limit on the TOC depth. That way there's no broken links in the TOC and it's not as long - it was getting way out of control with every version listed in there. Jd2157 (talk) 00:53, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Nice one! They now link better down page. 'One more thing' can someone please change the colours on the title headings so they emulate other Apple product pages better [eg. like this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Technical_specifications_2]. The out-of-date versions should be in a tan colour (ie. the first 3 iOS's title should be in tan colour: "iOS 1 versions", "iOS 2 versions", "iOS 3 versions"). Then the current version should be in a green (ie. the title for the two current versions "iOS 4 versions" and "iOS 4 versions (Apple TV)"). And finally, the future versions [announced/betas] should be in a blue colour (ie. the title for the two future versions "iOS 5 versions" and "iOS 5 versions (Apple TV)"). Annoyingly they are all in this light-green colour, which doesn't make it easy to see the current version. I'd do it myself, but I cannot remember the markup :-( --Jimthing (talk) 01:37, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Done! This was just a simple matter of styling the cot tag template with the bg parameter, like this

{{cot|title=iOS 1 versions|bg=#ffdead}}

with hex colors "FFdead" (dead, nice one!!), #3d4, and #2fc0ff. :) Shencypeter (talk) 05:50, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

To align with other Apple pages (like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro) I've switched to collapsible tables rather than sections. Not much difference practically speaking but they look more like the other Apple stuff. Next up is cleaning up the use of notes (currently using deprecated footnote3 style in some areas). Jd2157 (talk) 04:16, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Maybe the current version tables should be expanded (not collapsed) by default since those would generally be the versions people are looking for. Might help the readability. Jd2157 (talk) 02:07, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Very nicely done. Thanks all. I have added "auto-expand" to sections 4.x (current) & 5.x (beta), as discussed, as these are the ones people are likely want to refer to currently. Also, added background color to headers (with currently sold devices & their current/beta OS getting green/blue respectively); should aid quick visual reference, thus understanding. 4.x can then be "collapsed" and colour changed after 5.x gets released. ;-) Jimthing (talk) 12:32, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks to all! Now the question is should ios version 5 be as detailed as it is? I raised the collapsible sections as a polite measure against removing content. It seems an actual cleanup is in order.... Shencypeter (talk) 05:58, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes it should be as detailed as it is. If it's change or update in behaviour, then it gets listed accordingly. Only removal of repeats should be considered. Jimthing (talk) 07:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I just think the level of detail should be only as specific as the dialog box given in iTunes when prompted to update, as today for iOS 5. This page is considered for deletion, so it's probably moot now..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shencypeter (talk • contribs) 01:25, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

iOS 5.x Release Date

Why does this article say that iOS 5.x comes out in fall 2011? This is clearly a blatant lie. We are now well into winter 2011 and my iTunes still says iOS 4 is the latest version. I'm very disappointed. I'm never trusting Wikipedia again you liars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.20.162 (talk) 10:42, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Fall in the northern hemisphere... 70.77.221.173 (talk) 12:29, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Erm, der... Fall/Autumn in the multinational commercial world is always the northern hemisphere (that's Sep-Nov 2011, incase you can't work it out, lol), so if you live in the southern hemisphere you'll just have to get over it I'm afraid as it's always been the convention and always will be! (This person is a troll. Read their talk page for someone either very stupid or just being a fuckwit by spouting same-old-same-old anti-American trolling about the absolutely blindingly obvious data format issues that experienced users ALREADY DEAL WITH DAY IN DAY OUT. Yawn.) --Jimthing (talk) 10:00, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:MOSDATES#Longer periods stipulates otherwise. I'll quote here for consolidation's sake. You can verify as per my former link.
"As the seasons are reversed in the northern and southern hemispheres—and areas near the equator tend to have just wet and dry seasons—neutral wording (in early 1990, in the second quarter of 2003, around September) is usually preferable to a "seasonal" reference (summer 1918, spring 1995). Even when the season reference is unambiguous (for instance when a particular location is clearly involved) a date or month may be preferable to a season name, unless there is a logical connection (the autumn harvest). Season names are preferable, however, when they refer to a phase of the natural yearly cycle (migration to higher latitudes typically starts in mid-spring). Seasons are normally spelled with a lower-case initial." -anyway, there it is. I will revert as per WP:MOSDATES any changes.. Also, if you change iOS 5's release date from 'Late 2011' to a specified date, please add a source!. Many unregistereders keep changing the date to something in September but it varies, sometimes 7 September, sometimes otherwise, and so on.. kiranerys(u,c) 15:31, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I have changed the date back to "Late 2011" again. Once more, someone (unregistered user) has changed this line to Fall 2011 (as presented on the Apple website), but as we have seen discussed here, this seasonal designation only applies in the Northern Hemisphere. No one should change this release date until a SPECIFIC MONTH OR DATE is known. Obviously, this is going to continue to be a problem, since I believe that unregistered users don't take the time to read Talk pages since they seemingly can't take the time to make an account. JohnnyJ7788 (talk) 01:01, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Someone changed the release date to Fall again. It can't say Fall, regardless of how much Jimthing and others beat their chests, as it is against Wikipedia policy to refer to dates by seasons. Wikipedia has very strict guidelines on date formats. 101.169.31.134 (talk) 02:20, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Actually I wasn't "beating my chest' about being de-hemisphered (not quite a word!? lol), but merely reflecting this users obsession with not understanding the marketing terms multinational companies employ when referring to dates sometimes. Anyway, I have altered the release date to Sep-Nov, as this is more precise than "late" which can mean right up to year end. Jimthing (talk) 11:41, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

According to AppleInsider, iOS 5 won't be released until early or mid-October. However the golden master is expected to drop by sometime later this week. —stay (sic)! 00:28, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

EVENT "Let's Talk iPhone." now confirmed: 10 am PT, Tue.4.Oct.2011 — confirmation that emails have been sent to the press. (eg. http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/09/apple-sends-invites-for-october-2011-event-lets-talk-iphone.ars ). So no more re-re-re-re-edits of the date please! (also, this request for article deletion is invalid!) --Jimthing (talk) 06:23, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

“Unnecessary” edits

Hello,

“Unnecessary” is not a valid justification for reverting my good edits. In fact, most of them were necessary. And even if they had been “unnecessary”, that would not be a reason to revert them. Wikipedia itself is not necessary. Read WP:OWN, WP:ROWN.

“BugFix” is not an English word.

In the English Wikipedia, we don't Put Capital letters randomly To Normal words in the Middle of Sentences. Read MOS:CAPS. And I am gentle. I have left the anarchic capitalization of “generation” / “Generation”, as well as quite a few other dubious ones.

“UI” is an abbreviation. Let's title it discreetly. It is indeed necessary for accessibility.

Cheers,

--Nnemo (talk) 14:15, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

iMessage resource

• Free Texts Pose Threat to Carriers By Jenna Wortham, published October 9, 2011 in The New York Times. 97.87.29.188 (talk) 20:07, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Siri Support on iOS 5.1 beta section

"Possible Siri support, assumed because of the new "Siri Settings" menu." Does this mean that there can be Siri support on older devices, or was there any iPhone 4S that didn't had Siri support?? --"SimonOrJ"^(U/T/C) 23:43, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

No, this simply means a 4S Siri Settings menu under General. Options: •Siri [on/off], •Language [En AU/UK/US, Fr, Ger, Jap], •Voice Feedback [Hands-free Only/Always] (ie. does Siri speak to confirm info back to you & just show its response on the screen, or just the latter only), •My Info (ie. set user page in Contacts), •Raise To Speak [on/off] (off: press & hold home button / on: press & hold home button or raise the phone to your ear and speak). Hope this clarifies for you. ;-) --Jimthing (talk) 04:08, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

New Montesi Wallpaper

In the section for iOS 5.1 it says one of the features is "New Montesi Wallpaper", but I haven't been able to find a citation for this or an explanation of what this means. Tweisbach (talk) 00:28, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed it. If anyone can find a citation for it please add it back. Tweisbach (talk) 07:18, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Photo Stream in 5.1

Images can now be removed manually from the Photo Stream in iCloud. Any photos deleted are now also removed from other iOS devices connected to iCloud.

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That's wrong... Images deleted from Photo Stream on a iOS device is only deleted on that device. It clearly says so when you use it on a iOS device. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.29.31.5 (talk) 16:24, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Version color coding

What's the deal with the color coding? (obsolete-discontinued-current-beta). As I see it, versions 3.1.3, 4.1.2 are the latest versions in use for some devices, but are not being updated anymore, so therefore "discontinued". Version 5.1 is at this moment the latest version, so "current". And all others are "obsolete", as they have been replaced with newer versions. 82.171.164.155 (talk) 07:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree it should be changed. I've never understood the current use either. The use of "obsolete" and "discontinued" seems to be a misapplication of those terms, and implies "obsolete" isn't also "discontinued" when it clearly is. --Resplendent (talk) 05:55, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Disagree. These terms are relating to the device status, not the OS status, but the two go hand in hand, hence both communicated in the table. Obsolete devices work but major functions making them beyond current standards, whilst Discontinued ones fit current standards but are not supported anymore by Apple. Slight but clear reasoning for necessary terminology in usage here. --Jimthing (talk) 03:49, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Is there an objective source somewhere on this? If you're just pulling it out of the air, that's not much of a justification. You can't just handpick a few certain features and claim them to be current standards. I don't see it being device status either, as neither the 2nd generation touch nor iPhone 3G are sold new in stores, so what makes them "discontinued" instead of "obsolete?" --Resplendent (talk) 05:00, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually I need to correct myself here, it's the SOFTWARE not the hardware (sorry, I fix quite a few Apple-related pages recently and forgot this is the OS page context we're talking about here).

iPhone (original)/iPod Touch (1st generation)) use 3.1.3 = obsolete because nearly all current apps on the platform require 4.x or higher. iPhone 3G/iPod Touch (2nd generation) use 4.2.1 = discontinued as most apps work with 4.x, but it's not the current version (hence "discontinued", rather than "current"). --Jimthing (talk) 05:03, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't make any sense to me. 3.1.3 and 4.2.1 should have the same status, as they are both the latest version of certain (discontinued) devices. Considering which OS "nearly all current apps" support does not sound like a good measure to me. 195.33.27.172 (talk) 09:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Apple don't support 3.x (obsolete), they do 4.x (discontinued). --Jimthing (talk) 06:30, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

What kind of support are they offering for 4.x, and don't offer for 3.x? 195.33.27.172 (talk) 09:27, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

5.0.2/5.1

The build number (9B176) and the Release notes listed for iOS 5.0.2 (unreleased?) is accurate for iOS 5.1. justin493 (talk) 20:16, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

New iOS: 5.1.1

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1521 I'm not to sure on the formatting for adding information to this section so I'll leave it for you guys to do. Thanks You, Ham Radio 23:59, 7 May 2012 (UTC)