Talk:Treaty of York

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Cumbria? Rheged?

I am thinking maybe the link to Cumbria should be to Rheged. Laurel Bush 16:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Replaced stub with an article

The previous stub incorrectly claimed that this treaty set the border between England and Scotland in 1237. Removed the "importance" setting in the banners because they were likely set to "mid" on the assumption that this article was relevant to the Anglo-Scottish border.

Most of the content that talks about Matthew Paris belongs elsewhere, as it distracts from the article's topic; probably should go into the Alexander II article. I think I got sidetracked a bit tracking down the origin of the story that one occasionally comes across, saying that Alexander II had acted boorishly towards the legate; looks like Paris was that origin. Notuncurious (talk) 13:59, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most important single event in Scottish History

The King of the Scots got 'given' or rather was 'granted' (to be held as a feudal subject of the English King, his brother in law in fact) a huge swathe of nothern England and its English inhabitants, an England whose borders back then ran up to the Firth of Forth.

The consequences were profound, since almost from then on 'Scotland' which had previously been a Highland-based Gaelic-speaking kingdom of the Scots became ethnically, linguistically and culturally a second or parallel English Kingdom - one with an ever declining Gaelic 'Scots' component in the Highlands.

The Gaelic word sassenach by the way means 'saxon' and originally meant the Anglo-saxons or English of the kingdom of Bernicia, people who ever since the 6th century had inhabited (and in effect still do inhabit) what are now the Scottish lowlands (prev part of Northumberland i.e England).