Talk:iPhone

Quarters confused in sales data

It seems that the image showing the sales data has the quarters confused. For example, it provides data about 37M iPhones sold in 1Q 2012, but we have just seen this number reported for Q4 2011. We are not even half way through Q1 2012, so how can data about it exist? This article talks about 37M iPhones sold during Q4 2011. I did not try to verify data about other quarters, but they might be shifted as well.

95.80.54.178 (talk) 16:22, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

This is correct. The quarters referred to are the fiscal quarters, not calendar quarters. Apple's fiscal quarters are offset from the calendar. Acps110 ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:34, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

In that case it's correct, but confusing. A clarification would be very appreciated, since even finance-related newspapers call it 'fourth quarter' not 'first quarter'. I find it very confusing every time. Thanks! 95.80.54.178 (talk) 18:00, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Added designer

It's weird, all products usually state the designer but this didn't, anyway added designer and cite. Twobells (talk) 18:47, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Your source lists the designer of the various Mac products as "Jonathan Ive and Apple design team", so we should avoid misrepresenting that - if it's not explicit that he's the sole designer, we shouldn't describe him as that. --McGeddon (talk) 18:54, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

LOL, sure, it's weird. Give me a break, Twobells, you've been trying to push this for a long time.

And why shouldn't the designer be mentioned in the first paragraph, that after all IS best wiki practice. Also I have just discovered you have deleted all the entries without debate in talk history which is completely unacceptableTwobells (talk) 12:20, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

It's pretty dishonest of you to pretend to be a new editor showing up to this page for the first time and noticing that info is "missing".

what on earth are you talking about 'new editor', I came to the article and saw that Jonathan Ive was missing in the entirety of the piece and wanted to add him which is best practice, whoever said or wrote anythign about being 'new'?Twobells (talk) 12:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

As has been said multiple times, we don't need to add Ives to every product he ever helped Apple with. And he's already mentioned on the iPhone history page, in the lead no less, he does not belong in the first sentence of this article. -- Atama頭 18:58, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Where exactly has this been said 'multiple times'? I have just checked the talk history of all Apple products Jonathan Ive designed and there has been no discussion about this apart from deletions by you. Twobells (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, falsely labeling your edit as a revert of "vandalism" is disruptive. Don't make such accusations flippantly, especially when you know they're untrue. -- Atama頭 19:01, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Any deletion of important data without discussion is vandalism and you know it, and a suggestion that it was flippant indicates you have trouble understanding the term Twobells (talk) 12:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't seem unreasonable to mention the designer in the article somewhere, but clumsily jamming five quick words into the lead to make "smartphones designed by Jonathon Ive and marketed by Apple Inc" is a very unclear way to explain his role. (It can be read as implying that he designed a product independently and handed it over to Apple, when he was actually employed throughout as a senior vice president.) --McGeddon (talk) 19:06, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree. And we've been over this before. I don't mind a mention later in the article, it seems that the History and Availability section would be appropriate. I'd say the hardware section would be appropriate, because he was involved in designing the appearance of the device as a whole, but that section generally talks about features not design. Given the history of this discussion, though, I don't have a lot of hope for a compromise here. :( -- Atama頭 19:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Where have 'we' been over this 'before'? certainly not in talk history.Twobells (talk) 12:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

I just wanted to add, for anyone reading (including Twobells) I'm most definitely involved here so anything I say or do is as an editor, not an administrator. I'm not especially active at this article anymore but I'm still not going to be using my tools here. -- Atama頭 19:30, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

user Atama is even editing the talk history page to suit his view, this is outrageous, he has deleted all my replies to the discussion. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:IPhone&diff=493177929&oldid=493177098 Twobells (talk) 12:28, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

That wasn't User:Atama, it was User:Acps110. Please try to be WP:CIVIL. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 18:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

3D rendering??

What is "3D" about the image at the top of the page? It looks like any other photograph to me. Cresix (talk) 17:32, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 April 2012

please change "The CDMA model of the iPhone, like all CDMA phones, does not use a SIM." because The cdma network in the usa does not use the sim but when traveling globally the micro sim is required for use.

the iphone 4s is a global gsm phone and does require the use of a micro sim. http://www.iphonefreak.com/2010/06/the-iphone-4-micro-sim-situation.html

under the specifications listing verizon also states the network is "global gsm" so the cdma model of the iphone does use a sim for the gsm technology to work. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5773

Inserting / Removing SIM card - Apple® iPhone® 4S link http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/devices/knowledge_base.html?id=49046

Noahcnnc (talk) 20:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

AT&T Unlocking iPhones

AT&T has stared to unlock iPhones for their customers.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/06/atandt-to-begin-unlocking-iphone-sunday-april-8/

DanielDPeterson (talk) 23:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Clarification.

"In the United States, it was announced that two new carriers, Sprint and C Spire, would begin carrying the iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S in October and November 2011, respectively."

The way this is worded makes it a little confusing. Are they carrying the phones in October and then November? Or did Sprint have the phones and then C Spire? DanielDPeterson (talk) 23:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Clarification of battery life terminology: Hours of use between recharges, versus cycles or years before requiring replacement of the battery.

Some of the statements are about time between charges (i.e. capacity and power draw) while others are about total lifetime before a battery no longer takes/holds a useful charge and requires replacement by a repair shop. See excerpts below with my commentary in italics with {}. I don't have time to fix it right now, so perhaps another editor can do so?

Apple runs tests on preproduction units to determine battery life. Apple's website says that the battery life "is designed to retain up to 80 percent of its original capacity after 400 full charge and discharge cycles", which is comparable to iPod batteries. {clearly referring to total lifetime before replacement of the battery}

The battery life of early models of the iPhone has been criticized by several technology journalists as insufficient and less than Apple's claims. {reading the referenced article's I conclude that they are referring to how many hours of use before needing recharging.}

--Techguy95 (talk) 18:30, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

6 More US Carriers for iPhone to be added

Recently, on 20th April, six more regional US carriers - CELLCOM, APPALACHIAN WIRELESS, ALASKA COMMUNICATIONS, GCI, MTA SOLUTIONS and nTelos have been added into the list of iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S providers . Lisamickelson (talk) 06:55, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:05, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

"Audio processor" - missing.

The Ipod Touch page has a "Audio processor" field in it's spec table; why is this iPhone spec table missing this? I presume it also has it? --Jimthing (talk) 06:09, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Split

The article is rather.. err.. long. I think we should split the hardware section to Hardware of the iPhone and the software section to Software of the iPhone. Zach Vega (talk to me) 22:18, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose such a split. I think it is much better to have this all in one place. Besides, you can't separate the software from the hardware in real life, so why do it here? ~Adjwilley (talk) 23:08, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose split. But I wouldn't oppose moving some of the details out into appropriate sub-articles. --Born2cycle (talk) 23:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose, software of the iPhone? Isn't that what iOS is for? EelamStyleZ talk 20:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose; too long? Not everything in life fits onto a single screen, nor should it. Let's keep the hardware and software together unless we pull iOS from the iPad, iPhone, iPod (and everything else that uses it) and put it into a separate "iOS" article (where it might be confused with Cisco IOS, which has been around longer, BTW). — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 21:25, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
• Strongly oppose Doing so will make this article bocome a stub. TheChampionMan1234 (talk) 05:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

There's a clear consensus against splitting the article, so I'm going to remove the spit-apart template from the article. ~Adjwilley (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request - Over the Air (3G) download data limit raised to 50 MB as of March 7th, 2012

Though it coincided with the release of iOS 5.1, the raising of the data cap had nothing to do with the new version of the operating system. DJKillcrazy (talk) 06:48, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Link not working

"Video of Jobs launching the iPhone at Macworld 2007" the link goes to a ad promoted site and it does not have the video. So no point in having it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosomono (talk • contribs) 12:27, May 25, 2012‎

Link was fixed by User:TheChampionMan1234 in this edit. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 04:42, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Small edit

in the section "other countries" there is a sentence that says "All new mobile phones sold by carriers in Canada are locked, and none of the major carriers (Rogers Wireless, Telus, Bell Mobility) unlock iPhones without a fight and a $50 fee" . Without a fight? perhaps a registered user on wikipedia can change this to "extended negotiation" or a related phrase. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.209.99 (talk) 21:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous edits

Why is this article locked for anonymous edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.6.8 (talk) 03:01, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Because people keep vandalising the article. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 04:36, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

If you would like to make an edit the the article you could always propose it here, and somebody else can do it for you. Otherwise you can create an account and become a regular contributor. ~Adjwilley (talk) 19:56, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

iPhone Sell Image

I do not agree with the image on the right. It suggests that in Q2 2012 more than 35 million iPhones were selled. But that's not true, because apple.com said explicit in the source : "iPhone and Related Products and Services" and "Includes revenue from sales of iPhone, iPhone services, and Apple-branded and third-party iPhone accessories". --Nightfly85 (talk) 08:37, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

The source contains the number of units sold (35.064 million) and the revenue ($22,690 million). Reading the footnotes it seems clear that these are relating to the revenue, not to the number of units, so the table on the right seems both credible and correct to me. --Biker Biker (talk) 09:48, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

yes, you're right. Sorry. --Nightfly85 (talk) 09:42, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request: Clarification on new features in iOS 6

The article page states:

"With the release of iOS 6.0, which will be released in Fall 2012, Apple plans to release features that enable the user to have options to decline a phone call when a person is calling them. The user will have the capability to reply with a message, or to set a reminder to call them back at a later time."

Wow that's awkward and ultimately unclear. Extra syllables don't make information more accurate. It would be easier to read and understand if it said:

"Apple plans to release features that include additional options when declining an incoming call. Users will be able to reply with a message(iMessage? text message? voice message?) or to set a reminder to call them back at a later time." 174.31.192.105 (talk) 05:41, 25 July 2012 (UTC)