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Light green for Somaliland

Someone should update the map so that Somaliland is in light green for territory claimed by Somalia but not controlled, similar to the maps of Serbia and Cyprus. I would do it myself, but I'm not sure how.

Picture "Political situation in Somalia as of July 2011" color ambigious

Political situation in Somalia as of July 2011

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fedmap4.png

Cannot determine light / dark green difference. Not know to be colorblind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gematt (talk • contribs) 00:15, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Potsdam conference

Potsdam conference took place in summer 1945,not November 1949 Ma1557 (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. Middayexpress (talk) 17:30, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Siad Barre

Surely a picture of Siad Barre, the longest serving President of Somalia (21 out of 52 years of independence) and the man who arguably defined Somalia's the vast majority of Somalia's modern history, is more fitting to be included in the article than a picture of a soldier or a propaganda pamphlet. I understand the need to reduce clutter, but there are pictures up that have little relevance to Somalia. This is akin to removing a picture of FDR to make room for a picture of an Abrams Tank. Yardalhirji (talk) 04:07, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken, but the criteria is dictated by both relevance and WP:MOS. Middayexpress (talk) 14:57, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't it make more sense to have the picture of Barre first and then Kediye for the sake of clarity, as the sentence right before Kediye's picture reads "The putsch was spearheaded by Major General Mohamed Siad Barre, who at the time commanded the army." By the way,is there any particular reason you also edited the History of Somalia article and once again placed Kediye's picture next to the Supreme Revolutionary Council sub-section while Barre's picture (as head of the SRC) was confusingly placed next to the Rebellion sub-section, when in fact Kediye was executed for rebellion/treason later on by Barre? To the uniformed or those without much knowledge about Somalia's history, I fear there would be major confusion as to who of the two led the revolution and subsequently ruled, as some sentences in both articles seem to be mutually exclusive and contrary to what is accepted as the actual historical record, based mostly on an assertion (Kediye as Father of the Revolution) found in only one source. Also, this might not be the best place to ask this, but are you by any chance Somali? Yardalhirji (talk) 06:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid I don't reveal personal details. That said, Salaad Gabeyre Kediye is at the top because he was officially dubbed the "Father of the Revolution" (c.f. [1]). Barre only later became the head of the Supreme Revolutionary Council/SRC, which is discussed further down on both pages. This and more is already explained in detail here. Middayexpress (talk) 14:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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KHATUMO Estado de Somalia / State de Somalia

http://www.khatumo.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.158.225.141 (talk) 07:54, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lede

This article is highly outdated. The TFG government controls the entirety of the capital Mogadishu, and has made signficant gains throughout the south and central lands. Puntland and Somaliland in the North are both under full governmental control.

I think the introduction is sensationalist material not worthy of Wikipedia. Please edit ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jabulani123 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to suggest changes here (including reliable sources) and we can consider change. If you become a more experienced editor (it takes just a few edits to other articles), you can also give it a try yourself, but it might be wise to always discuss substantial changes on this page... L.tak (talk) 23:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The lede is indeed unsatisfactory given the successive gains made in the war effort, and the fact that the last insurgent stronghold in the south is expected to be captured over the next few months. The interim administration's mandate is also scheduled to end in August, after which point a permanent central government is to be set up in its place. When the foregoing comes to pass, the lede will have to be adjusted accordingly. Middayexpress (talk) 11:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We have in teh lede still "and is working towards eventual national elections in 2012", whereas I found a source here, which dismisses the idea of election outrightly. Midday, should we update that now already, or are things so much "in flux" that any speculation on what action will be taking place (constituional/clan leaders/elections by the people) that it is safest indeed to wait it out? (maybe: transfer of power to a ... definite/non-interim government?) L.tak (talk) 22:35, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The elections and transition to a representative government are still scheduled to take place. Both the main stakeholders, the TFG and the international community, are officially working towards them (c.f. [2]). Middayexpress (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
seems that the chances of direct elections have grown slimmer; but getting a clear picture without a crystal ball in this area is ... challenging. Let's wait and see until Aug indeed... L.tak (talk) 22:17, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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