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Syrian civil war map

Hi, you could add a major campaigns and battles to the map with a dates. Greetings. Jamiroquai500 (talk) 00:54, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Re:Map

That's the problem. See, i got those from The Syrian uprising Information Center 2011 everyday maps, based on what areas are under shelling. In fact, it has already changed some around Damascus.

[1] Here's a good map for Damasucs, which as probably already changed. At least use this. Jacob102699 (talk) 17:38, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please see Talk:2007–2012_global_financial_crisis#RM_on_hold Smallbones (talk) 15:04, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Misuse of the conflict infobox

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Infobox image

I think the images in the infobox are themselves great but as a collage the overall image is highly unbalanced, from a neutral standpoint. Because three of the four images show the opposition (pro-FSA protest, FSA tank, FSA rocket man) and the fourth image is of a burning house hit by government artillery which was photographed by an opposition activist. I think at least one image of government troops should be presented in the collage. Since you were the original creator do you think you can add to the collage something like that? EkoGraf (talk) 20:07, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Canvassing

Just as a note, since it is a less than well known wikipedia policy (that I myself probably violated before I knew about it), WP:canvassing is frowned upon. I'm not saying that you were, but in general, if someone is going to contribute to a discussion, they will already have stumbled (or not stumbled, walked right into) that discussion themselves, there is no need to inform them of it, unless it is a dispute that directly involves them. In particular, the Request for Mediation process actually has a bot inform related users, so you definitely don't need to do that. Just informing you, you didn't really do anything wrong, but in a highly charged dispute like this, someone might bring it up. Jeancey (talk) 20:41, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Syria

Hey, I like that your a frequent and meticulous contributor and all, but I am going to remove that sectarianism paragraph. The lede is only supposed to be five paragraphs, and we go into ALOT of detail anyway in the sectarianism section. Furthermore neither the opposition nor the Syrian government mention that sectarianism plays any major role. Also if you go to "view history" you will see the article is 214,000 Bytes, and it should only be 200k. Basically the article is too long as it is already, and you just added 1500 bytes to it. I7laseral (talk) 01:36, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re: New Move Request

I'm not 100% sure, but I'm fairly certain we can't start a new move request until the current one is closed. The removal of "U.S." was done by an admin under reasonable consensus. I agree the current discussion is a horrid mess, but I'm not sure if starting over helps at all; I'd say wait and see if the current efforts to get people to provide input on the various parts pans out. The current discussion does have confusing comments (e.g., people replying before "U.S." was removed, people replying to the temporary move proposal) that I think are hindering consensus-forming, but I'm not sure that a new discussion is going to be any less confusing and contentious. (Unfortunately, the move discussion process was simply not designed for things like breaking news.) – 2001:db8:: (rfc | diff) 00:06, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation

About what happened to "Daniel", you should look at this. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thank you for the barnstar! Although I should point out that Sopher99 was the one who noticed the similarity to the main sockmaster :) ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 05:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the barn star too! Sopher99 (talk) 16:57, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thx for the note... --Wüstenfuchs 16:32, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aleppo city battle map

Just wanted to say that you did a great job with the map of Aleppo. :) But wanted to propose that you change the color of the areas controlled by the Kurds in northern Aleppo. Because they may not be allies of the government but they are also not allies of the rebels and even clashed with the FSA at one point when they tried to enter their areas of control. So basically they are doing their own grab for power, due to which we separated them from the rest of the opposition forces in the campaignbox. I think Wusten and Dimitrish81 also suggested this at the article talk page. EkoGraf (talk) 16:35, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Syrian civil war map

"But ongoing battles in the city of Tal Abyad have resulted in mortars hitting villages in the Turkish town of Akcakale, the town's mayor said, according to Turkey's Anadolu Agency. It was unclear whether there were any casualties."

-CNN, 23 September 2012

Could you add the blue ring around the Tal Abyad. Recently you added it's under rebel control but CNN article says there are clashes between rebels and the Army there. --Wüstenfuchs 19:11, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aleppo map

You didn't quite finish it - shave off everything west of military research center, as that is all rural area too. Also don't forget to make midan district and the Zahra district (http://in.news.yahoo.com/photos/syrian-regime-soldiers-seen-near-scientific-research-centre-photo-162019090.html) orange (contested) Sopher99 (talk) 23:50, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hope you don't mind Future, I reverted that last edit to the map back to your previous version. Because, per the video source itself that Sopher provided it says that the rebels are hitting the area with mortar rounds, from a distance, no mention of ground/street fighting in Zahraa itself, no mention of the rebels making a ground attempt to capture Zahraa or the Army base. So the previous image of a rebel advance arrow on the edge of Zahraa was ok, but not an advance into the district itself. Because if we would have to color all areas that are being shelled by ether side, where there is no actual ground fighting, than we would have to color all rebel areas as contested due to the constant artillery fire. So in my opinion the previous version was the good one. As for Midan, all sources, including AFP, Reuters and CNN confirm Midan being under military control and fighting shifting to the adjacent Suleiman Arkub district. What sources are reporting is that on occasion sniper fire is being reported in Midan, which is understandable in an urban battle and not really what you could call real ground fighting making the area contested. Contested territories should only be those where there is open street fighting, snipers can always go behind enemy lines and make harassing attacks. Otherwise everything else you did looks extremely great and you did great work on the map, keep it up! :) EkoGraf (talk) 02:58, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The new source I7Laseral provided shows a rebel attack on a military post in New Aleppo, I looked all over the net but haven't been able to find any more sources reporting on fighting in New Aleppo, so we have only one source for that. And the source does not make any mention of Zahraa. Anyway, it should probably be reflected on the map but not in the way it is now. I think what you should do is color as contested/unclear the areas between the military research center and the Army base, not the northern areas of Zahraa, no info found for fighting in that area. I hope you can mark the areas between those two government bases as contested/unclear. EkoGraf (talk) 12:37, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
SOHR today made a report that there is ground fighting in the Sukari district [4], also here are a few other sources confirming the military has a presence and is engaged with the rebels in that district for at least the last month [5][6] So it should be colored as contested/unclear, with an arrow showing an attempted military advance into it. I think, based on the map, the advance is probably coming from the government-held Hamdaniya district. EkoGraf (talk) 17:36, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Saif al Dawla district is being attacked by FSA, so the red Syrian army arrow should be changed by the green FSA arrow. Actually, in Al Hamdaniya is taking place a batlle too. Iza, Halab al Yadida and Al Sabil are also under atacck, but I dont know if this distric appears on your awesome map =) [7] [8] --83.52.216.65 (talk) 18:40, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Hamdaniya is next to the military academy (lower left corner)--Wiki erudito (talk) 19:48, 27 September 2012 (UTC) PS: Midan is also under attack, so the red line should be deleted and the quarter colored in orange.--Wiki erudito (talk) 20:41, 27 September 2012 (UTC) .[reply]

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Hello, as you said Wiki Erutido, Hamdaniya this southern New Aleppo([9], in fact you have marked on the map xD About Izza, but I could not locate it in a story I read a few weeks ago I was in the north of Aleppo. Greetings.--Emiliokun5 (talk) 21:30, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Seems that rebels are attacking the Kurdish area, and more news over here. Esn (talk) 09:45, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, is it possible to use a lighter shade of orange for the contested areas? The colour looks very similar to the regime-controlled areas, at least on my monitor. Esn (talk) 09:55, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I told you about clashes in Hamdaniya, but you marked Hamidiya (anyway, Hamidiya is also under attack, but you should also color Hamdaniya). Moreover, there are being clashes in Sheikh Maqsoud (kurdish area) and in Halab al Qadima, Al Izaa, Al Arkub,Halab al Yadida, Al Sabil, and Al Kura al Ardiya, but I dont know if this 6 districts appear on your map. I did not send you references because they are in Spanish, but if you want them I can give them to you. --Wiki erudito (talk) 15:07, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Don't forget the Suleimani area (was in Syrian army control - now rebels fighting) I7laseral (talk) 15:01, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Scratch that. You got it. I7laseral (talk) 15:04, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello again, apparently all Salaheddine also under rebel attack[10], so it should be changed to disputed (and incidentally extend the arrow rebel)Besides the rebels also advanced in Sukari, so you should add an arrow in that direction rebel. Sorry for the reference in Spanish but that's my native language.

PD: Saladino = Salaheddine--Emiliokun5 (talk) 19:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Negative on Salaheddine. Same source [11] that reported the rebels attacked Salaheddine quoted rebel commanders saying they had to retreat from Salaheddine later. So, at the moment, Salaheddine not being contested. As for Hamdaniya, I would wait until tomorrow when the situation becomes more clearer. Because, in order to reach Hamdaniya, the rebels would have had to capture Saif al-Dawla, Sukari and Salaheddine first. So hold of on that one until more info comes tomorrow. EkoGraf (talk) 20:57, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
But it very well could be an attack from rural areas, and the front is not very clear. Although I think you can wait. PS: The historic center is under attack, reporting fires.[12]--Emiliokun5 (talk) 11:55, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your maps on Syria, particularly Aleppo, are quite detailed I would however like to suggest a change in colours. I keep confusing Green with Gaddafi and hence loyalists/government, might I suggest:

  • red for the Government areas;
  • another colour (than orange) for contested/unclear; and
  • possibly yellow arrows for Kurdish movements given the clashes with the rebels?

Otherwise thank you for your maps. cjblair 11:01 WST, 29 September 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjblair (talk • contribs) 13:01, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sukari (bottom center) and Salahedine (bottom left) are under attack of the FSA. You should add green arrows. Here the reference. Is in spanish, so I´m going to tell exactly where does this information appear:

"En el frente de Saladino (suroeste) hemos tomado bases del ejército regular" Means the rebels have captured a military base in Salahedine "Mandos rebeldes afirmaron haber avanzado en los barrios de As Sukari " Rebels commands say the have advanced in the district of as Sukari --Wiki erudito (talk) 13:19, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you should mark as disputed the entire area of historic center, according to this source[13] the fire zone adjacent to the citadel, which clearly implies that fighting district-wide. Here is the quote: "That market also abuts the Citadel and the gates of Bab al Nasr and Bab Antakya, which are important archaeological sites in Aleppo, "--Emiliokun5 (talk) 16:29, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you show the rebels moving towards the city center? Just as a suggestion perhaps the area around the city council to orange? Thanks otherwise for your hard work. cjblair 20:45 WST, 2 October 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjblair (talk • contribs) 12:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you color only the eastern part of Salahaddine as contested? Because the sources on-hand have not talked about fighting in the whole district. Clashes have been taking place in the last few days only in areas bordering rebel territory. EkoGraf (talk) 15:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I repeat, the entire old city is under rebel attack (in fact this claim to control 90% of the area), you must check the entire area, in so many parts out there are pretty clear that fighting in the citadel. PS: The Spanish sources say they are still fighting in Salahedine and the rebels have advanced, same for Sukari, but it's your decision. --Emiliokun5 (talk) 17:35, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is from the NYT (sept 29): [14] "Activists said that antigovernment fighters had tried to put out the fire, but that it was difficult because of government snipers in the area, who activists have said set up positions in the city’s 13th-century citadel, which overlooks the souk." The government still controls the citadel and its surroundings, so I'd wait until there are reports of clashes at the citadel. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 17:44, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for changing the colour for the contested areas, it is much easier to distinguish from the government-controlled territory now! (by the way, if the two colours didn't seem similar to you, perhaps it could be your monitor or even some form of colour-blindness that was causing you to see the colours differently from other people...) Esn (talk) 05:42, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The newest info from the article has a government source as saying that Sakhour and Slaiman al-Halabi districts have been "cleansed" by government forces.[15] So perhaps label the Slaiman al-Halabi district and change it and Sakhour to "contested"? (if the rebels also confirm that they've been overrun, they can be changed to red) Esn (talk) 19:36, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A few sources saying that rebels have retreated from Sakhour (or Sahhur) district, as well as nearby Shaar: [16] [17]. So perhaps add a green arrow moving away from those districts? Those regime-friendly sources also say that fighting is continuing around the old city (I'd cite rebel-friendly sources too, but I haven't been able to find a summary of recent events from them). Esn (talk) 05:55, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The army has been in control of Sulaiman al-Halabi for some time now and have moved on to the Sakhour roundabout and bridge. They control that and are attempting to move into Sakhour at. The Rebels are fighting back and trying to regain the roundabout. They're not in a position to attack or contest Sulaiman Al-Halabi from the east. 62.31.145.100 (talk) 15:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Damascus (2012)

Please see the Battle of Damascus (2012). the battle is clearly ongoing as numerous sources make clear (see the article and the article talk page for the sources), but User:EkoGraf is insisting the battle is over, simply because the regime claimed it was over. بروليتاريا (talk) 22:39, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not insisting. Multiple sources have been provided, including a few that are not coming from the regime. And it is not just me, several other editors have also edited the article in a way that the battle is over. The article Battle of Damascus (2012) covers the rebel offensive back from July, which ultimately failed to capture the metropolitan area of Damascus. That was a highly notable event which deserved its own article. The rebel operational name of the battle Damascus volcano was also agreed to after a discussion on the talk page. We already have an article on the current fighting, it is called Rif Dimashq offensive (which covers fighting in and around Damascus). If we try and reopen an old battle than it would be simply content forking, which is not according to Wikipedia rules. It has already been pointed out in the result section of the Battle of Damascus (2012) that the fighting later continued with the offensive. Your sources point to rebel attacks and clashes, which were happening long before the July Battle of Damascus, nothing in the sources about further rebel attempts to capture the metropolitan area of Damascus, which was the stated aim of their operation Damascus Volcano from July. EkoGraf (talk) 13:54, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bahrain GA

Thanks for the review and promotion! This the first time an article I contributed to achieves GA status! Mohamed CJ (talk) 13:58, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. :)-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 14:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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