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Hi, and welcome to my User Talk page! For new discussions, I prefer you add your comments at the very bottom and use a section heading (e.g., by using the "+" tab at the top of this page). I will respond on this page unless specifically requested otherwise. I dislike talk-back templates and fragmented discussions. If I post on your page you may assume that I will watch for a response. If you post here I will assume the same and that you lost interest if you stop following the discussion.

Retired
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Because of multiple instances of off-wiki and cross-wiki harassment, I am retiring this user account which could be linked to my real-life identity. I will not be watching this talk page any more and my email has been disabled.

Guy Lebègue

Bonjour, J'aimerais que vous m'expliquiez pourquoi avoir supprimé le paragraphe "Speaker" ?

Car depuis son départ en retraite, il y a 13 ans, Guy Lebègue s'est beaucoup investi dans la vulgarisation scientifique sur les activités satellites ; et cette conférence, il la prononce plusieurs fois chaque année, dont une fois pour l'Association Aéronautique et Astronautique de France. Elle avait d'ailleurs fait l'objet de publications écrites : Un satellite de télécom : A quoi ça sert?, Comment ça marche?, Combien ça coûte?  », dans Nouvelle Revue Aéronautique & Astronautique, Dunod juin 1994, (ISBN 1247-5793); repris dans la même année, dans la Revue des anciens éléves de l'Ecole Centrale de Paris.

Par ailleurs :

Friendly, --Sosak fr (talk) 14:12, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have re-reviewed the deleted section and still think that it cannot be maintained. To start with, the image is taken from a website and therefore a potential copyvio. The reference given for the image caption is taken from a blog, which is not a reliable source. All other information in that section is sourced to Lebègue's own website. What is needed here are sources independent of the subject, showing that these presentations are important. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 19:52, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
La photo a été prise par Francoise Lebegue (c'est dans le panneau d'information de la photo), l'épouse de Guy Lebegue, et chargée dans les commons sous licence libre, donc pas de copyvio.
Le blog n'est pas celui de Lebegue mais de l'Association Aéronautique et Astronautique de France, groupe régional Côte d'Azur, une société savante, produisant de nombreuses conférences sur de nombreux sujets des domaines aéronautique et astronautique, et des conférenciers célèbres.
--Sosak fr (talk) 22:00, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see that the photo has indeed gone through the OTRS system, so the copyright situation is OK. But apart from that, the other problems remain: above I didn't say that the blog was Lebègue's, I said that all other sources in that section were to his own website. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 22:08, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
C'est bien de faire amende honorable! Mais que pensez-vous de remettre en place les paragraphes que vous avez supprimés et aller en discuter dans la page de discussion associée à l'article lui-même, où d'ailleurs un début de discussion y a été ouvert?
Je pratique très peu WP anglophone, car assez peu calée pour écrire dans la langue de Shakespeare (rire). Dans WP francophone, c'est la pratique courante que cette discussion au plus près de l'article.
--Sosak fr (talk) 08:22, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mena Report

Hi, I have been trying to put back relevant information on this news source. Please do not remove it. The publisher's location, access volumes etc. are entirely relevant. My goal is to provide information that our readers may be interested in. There are other forums for discussing merge or deletion. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 19:23, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually, this stuff is not relevant. The article is about the Mena Report, not about the publisher. If the publisher is notable, then this info could go into an article on them, but not here. As another example, we do not give large descriptions of Elsevier in every article on every single journal this company publishes, either. This is not a merge/deletion issue either, unless you want to propose mergin an article on the publisher into the Mena article? --Guillaume2303 (talk) 19:27, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Irving Gottesman GAed

Yay! Now for an FA. I am actually in touch with Gottesman. But I don't think we can get a photo; the problem is WikiCommons requires the photographer to upload an image, not the subject. Too complicated to push through. The references have to be changed to the {{sfn}} template, but I have done that for a couple of articles before, so should be okay. Also need to add more stuff about his books, since FA requires "full" coverage. Churn and change (talk) 03:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Precious

professional science
Thank you for quality articles and contributions on scientific articles, especially neuroscience, on a professional level with a focus on science in Europe, - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note

I was going to email but it is disabled. You have been a great editor and an asset to wikipedia. You could try and create a new account by notifying arbcom and by not linking it to this account. IRWolfie- (talk) 00:22, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support!. —MistyMorn (talk) 10:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Guillaume2303 retiring?

The note above says that this user was getting off-wiki harassment. What happened? Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:14, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually, the off-wiki stuff was already a while ago: I received phone calls and one person whose bio I had taken to AfD (closed as a "delete") actually emailed colleagues of mine that he thought were in an authority position over me. The most recent happenings was harassment including the Dutch, German, and Italian WPs and that was the last drop... I'm still wrapping up some loose ends, but that won't be much any more (couple of dozen edits at most). Thanks for the interest :-) --Guillaume2303 (talk) 22:46, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I really wish that you could close your account with some suggestions for what you want changed to prevent this from happening to anyone else, or otherwise for what kind of community support you think would be useful for other people to have if what happened to you ever happens to anyone else. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:18, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There is a process for renaming an account as well, maybe that would be helpful in putting off attempted doxing or whatever. IRWolfie- (talk) 01:20, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Too bad - I think the only solution is to have a truly anonymous account that nobody can tie to a real person. Otherwise this type of harassment is all too easy. For those who tuned in late, the most recent harassment was due to wildly out of proportion anger from now banned User:Euroflux. And we end up losing an exceptionally good-hearted and productive editor. Best of luck and regards to you, Guillaume2303. First Light (talk) 04:05, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The User:Euroflux count has been blocked définitivly on the French WP--Sosak fr (talk) 07:34, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • In response to the above comments: When the conflict with Euroflux started, he had already been banned on the French WP. Due to his attacks on me, he is now also indeffed on the German WP and clocked for a week on the Dutch WP. On the Italian WP, his attacks have been ignored and that seems to have been an effective strategy, too. So in all, the community has been quite responsive in defending an editor from undue harassment. Nevertheless, these things cause stress (and time). In the almost six years that I have been editing here, I have been attacked several times. I originally edited under my own name, because I stand to what I do here and felt that I have no reason to hide. I was mistaken, because unfortunately, not all people coming here are reasonable. So after the off-wiki harassment referred to above, I had my account renamed, as IRWolfie also suggested above. This reduced the problems a bit: your run-of-the-mill IP vandal usually is not wiki-literate enough to find this out, so for them I was anonymous whereas the regulars here still were aware of my identity. But along came Euroflux, who got very upset that I didn't agree with his grand unification interwiki categorization scheme and his pointy attacks on several biographies here. Next thing I know, my own biography is being attacked on different WPs with Euroflux pasting long walls of (sometimes rather silly) accusations on article and user talk pages. At that point, I was already reducing my involvement in WP (pruning back my watchlist from about 7000 items to about 4000 in the space of a couple of weeks). Euroflux was just the last drop.
I'm not sure whether events like this can be avoided completely. One way would be to have everybody here edit under their real-life identity. If people are not anonymous any more, they will think twice before acting like a spoiled child. It wouldn't remove the problem, but certainly reduce it greatly. However, I see the problem with this solution, too: many people will be hesitant to use their real name if they are editing sensitive subjects (such as articles on sex-related themes or politics, especially if it concerns countries that have no free speech and/or totalitarian regimes). The only other solution is what First Light suggests: absolute anonymity for all. I don't like that, but if in the future I decide to come back to WP, that's what I'll do: choose a handle that cannot be traced back to my real life identity and carefully avoid ever giving any clue as to who I am, where I live, and what my profession is. For the moment, though, Euroflux has won and I'm going to take a break from editing. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 08:38, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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