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Bipolar

I cannot disagree more with your "diagnosis". It doesn't seem to be neither schizophrenia nor bipolarity disorder in any way you can consider it. According to ICD-10, she was antisocial, also called sociopath. Take a look at the main syntoms,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

  • Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.
  • Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
  • Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.
  • Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
  • Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
  • Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.39.227.179 (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the following. Someone with untreated bipolar disorder could still be marginally functional, which sounds like her. Untreated schizophrenia, not so much. Anyway, it would be best if we could find a source?24.131.12.228 19:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect she might have been bipolar, not schizophrenic. More to come.

She was a schizophrenic. Her own mother confirmed this, because Nancy was diagnosed with childhood schizophrenia by a psychiatrist at 11. 119.12.134.128 (talk) 11:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Revisions

The original comments that started this chain have been completely removed. The opening comment at present is very fine, but whoever wrote it, erased something infinitely real, have a look at: "Revision as of 18:58, 28 November 2003"


Can someone change this: "...In January 1972, she ran away from Devereux Manor and attempted suicide by slitting her wrists with scissors. A friend, Phillipe, intervened in the attempt as Spungen had contacted her via telephone to say goodbye." The last sentence should be removed or changed: Philippe didn't know Nancy until 1975 in New York, Philippe is a man, a friend found Nancy in her room, Nancy didn't call anyone to say goodbye.


Under "Relationship with Sid Vicious", it is stated that Nancy moved to London in 1977 and had a "tumultuous 23-month relationship" with Sid Vicious. If she met Sid in 1977 and died in October of 1978, how could their relationship have lasted 23 months? Cowpiesurprise (talk) 00:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Literary work about Nancy Spungen

I have added a phrase indicating that the title of the book was taken from a poem written by Vicious after he murdered Spungen, as stated on WP Sid Vicious article. I found this little factlet to be very surprising, and odd enough, in its own way, to be worth including in the article. Hi There 23:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Modified second section

I removed "early" from the section previously titled "Adolescence and early death", both because it's vaguely non-NPOV (not that I disagree that her death was early, but that's still subjective) but, more importantly, it could be accidently misread as somehow paralleling the title "early life" in a morbid sense of humor. Besides, it's not realy necessary to establish the distinction, because she (obviously) had only one death. If you'd like to reinsert it, please explain why here. Lenoxus " * " 17:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gobbldegook

'Four months after Nancy's death, incarceration at Riker's Island before bail and drug rehabilitation, he overdosed...'A word missing somewhere, I think 81.157.69.65 (talk) 18:17, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Querying new lede

Can't see how new lede by Pinkadelica improves on my earlier one, except I agree the word 'legendary' could be seen as POV.

He has failed to include the key fact that Sid was assumed to be her killer. And why has he deleted the mention of the acclaimed feature-film 'Sid and Nancy'? 109.157.18.114 (talk) 17:59, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]