Talk:John Bolton

President of Red Eye

Should we mention this in the article? He's the current president of Red Eye, it's a pretty big honor74.108.217.11 (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Serious concerns about WP:UNDUE

The amount of spacing given to his prior career versus more recent events suggests a serious lack of perspective in this article. Ray^Talk 06:14, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Like it or not, Bolton is known to the general public mostly from his tenure as Ambassador to the UN and the abrasive exchanges he had with the UN and many people in that arena. Those years and his previous association with the Bush cabinet, not the AEI, is going to be his ticket to the history books, and the justification for such a long article. /Strausszek (talk) 00:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The neocon thing *again*

It is a poorly defined "movement," and is commonly used as an epithet. Traditionally, it was a term used for people who used to be liberals. In the 1970s, it became identified with those former liberals who were centered around Scoop Jackson, and later moved to the Republican Party out of discontent with Carteresque policies. However, in the Bush years, it was used as an epithet for "everybody favoring a muscular foreign policy" and that's just BS. However, short of personal self-identification, or well-sourced data that lumps him in with the Scoop Jackson crowd in the 1970s, you cannot conclude there's anything "neo" about Bolton's conservatism. Muscular foreign policy being, as a practical matter, far older in the American political tradition than the modern neocon movement. Ray^Talk 20:37, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

It may be used as an epithet in some circles, but it is also a factual description of an actual movement, however poorly defined it may be. We aren't concluding anything about Bolton here - we can't make conclusions due to NPOV and NOR - we are simply doing exactly what we should be doing: reporting the facts taken from reliable, authoritative sources. Gamaliel (talk) 00:46, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

It can't be a "fact" that Bolton is a "prominent neocon" if the definition of a neocon isn't well-established and highly dependent on one's POV. The best we can do is say that a certain journalistic set considers him a neocon. Ray^Talk 02:20, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't see grounds here to make the article claim that these sources are of dubious accuracy unless you can find other sources which claim that these sources are unreliable in this matter. Gamaliel (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

It's not a matter of accuracy, it's a matter of point of view. Within their point of view, they are perfectly accurate. However, the usage of "neocon" to describe advocates of Bush foreign policy is very much a trope of Bush-era political rhetoric, and only loosely connected to the more academic and historical usage of the term. Thus, it ends up by being misleading. Ray^Talk 20:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

It's a bit like when you have Randian objectivists insisting that they, and they alone, are entitled to be called "freedom lovers" or "liberal thinkers". As Ian Buruma pointed out, writing of just the coalition that most people today identify as neo-cons, guys who want a tough and expansively muscular foreigh policy coupled with emphasis on "traditional values" at home, some of them should be called in French "vieux cons" (old crooks/old cons) because they have always been conservative, but in actual political outlook snd methods, these old cons and neo-cons are the same kind. And distinct from e.g. isolationists and Nozickian minimal-state republicans To most people it's obvious that Bolton is in the same posse as Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, David Horowitz and Ken Adelman. /Strausszek (talk) 00:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

huge error

He had a hit song, "How am I supposed to live without you" and it is missing. I know a singing career is a bit of fluff but a brief mention is ok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FUW999 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

hahahhaha

192.197.71.189 (talk) 18:15, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

And, he was part of the chorus in today's republican nominated hit-song "Supported by an anti-islamic blogger, and the neocons, and the birthers". http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1110ap_us_republicans_iowa_bolton.html --ph.a —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.207.253.67 (talk) 23:29, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Cameo appearance

Isn't he the orderly appearing from around 23 sec into this classic video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhHJ4zEKDZY Strausszek (talk) 02:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Red Links

fixed several red links for United States Attorney General and United States Commission on International Religious Freedom that were broken. 67.194.17.65 (talk) 00:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)